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GhostBat
06-22-2011, 12:24 PM
Eesh, this is hard to watch. Is our education system really this bad?
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Fenris_brood
06-22-2011, 12:45 PM
You were expecting these gals to be the top notch in bright noodles? This, being a beauty thing, shows just how human beings work towards attractiveness in opposition to actual wits, specially towards females. However I am a bit disappointed that they would choose this question of all things, because the actual bright answer would both take alot more than these puny takes to put out and would piss off alot of people, something these gals just can't afford in their contesting. They will just appeal to what they're told to and what they think is their target audience, and being it America, this ofcourse is a slight incline to christianity, as well as an open answer of liberal freedom that hey, why not both! Although the question didn't mention both...it mention evolution.
It's both a bad selection we have here, and one that is in an appeal contest, so this stuff is expected.
I would like miss Californias number though.
Also, good going miss Hawaii, creationatism. *slow clap*
Miss Indiana did a very good barrelroll out of the question. "It sure ain't my problem!".
The opinions do get a little bit better towards the middle, given that no one shows any actual knowledge of what evolution is, but the intention to make it a neutral answer becomes a bit more evident and actual opinions seem clearer.
I do have to ask, is there an actual Theology class in highschool that people often take, or prior to that even?
GhostBat
06-22-2011, 01:05 PM
I do have to ask, is there an actual Theology class in highschool that people often take, or prior to that even?
In most cases, no. I wouldn't be opposed to one, however. Comparative religion can be very interesting. I think a lot of people might be upset, particularly in the south, if Christianity was lumped with any other religion into a class on theology. Instead, they want to inject Christian beliefs into science and history as if they are facts. It's unfortunate.
I don't expect them to be bright, but there's a difference between being educated and being intelligent. I definitely expect them to be educated. :p
Fenris_brood
06-22-2011, 01:18 PM
In most cases, no. I wouldn't be opposed to one, however. Comparative religion can be very interesting. I think a lot of people might be upset, particularly in the south, if Christianity was lumped with any other religion into a class on theology. Instead, they want to inject Christian beliefs into science and history as if they are facts. It's unfortunate.
I don't expect them to be bright, but there's a difference between being educated and being intelligent. I definitely expect them to be educated. :p
Exactly my thoughts in that theology department. I would actually had loved to have on in my vacant highschool years, but the point is that people seem to lump creatonism together with science, which is just not untrue. Moreso it just rings in the back of my skull when people speak about evolution as a "theory". Most sciency things are in fact theory, but the fact that living beings evolve from one form to another over time is not a "theory", it's observable reality.
On the intelligent bit, yes, you are right, but still, the definition of "educated" just isn't clear. They are educated here, definetly, but perhaps just not with a proper, intelligent education.
GhostBat
06-22-2011, 01:23 PM
On the intelligent bit, yes, you are right, but still, the definition of "educated" just isn't clear. They are educated here, definetly, but perhaps just not with a proper, intelligent education.
That's my beef, though. We need a better education system, as this clearly demonstrates. The fact that they think (and might be correct in thinking) that the majority of people in America will appreciate their "two-sides" and "it's just a theory" rhetoric only makes the situation look that much more bleak.
Science is good, people! Science, not religion, brought you computers, cars, antibiotics, and breast implants!
MorganaFang
06-22-2011, 04:58 PM
I don't get pageants. I'm not saying this as a jealous fat girl with twinkie creme dribbling down my chin... (welll)
Personally I actually like celebrations of beauty, even if its really shallow but the whole concept beyond that where they judge these girls personalities and morality never really registered with me. I mean can we really expect Miss America to be so well rounded that she could be a governor or president some day?
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But but...surely... I mean really... can't we just stop faking that this contest isn't shallow? Just be honest and straight to the point. "You're miss America because we think you're the hottest." Or if we just can't accept that then let's add another element to determining if these girls are well rounded enough.
Something along the lines of Ultimate Ninja Warrior-esque displays of talent...
kathryn
06-22-2011, 05:12 PM
Yyyyeauch. Science and religion are not the same. If religion is to be taught in schools, it should only be allowed in private religious schools. Otherwise, either have it as a separate theology class where they teach everything, or just leave it out altogether. We are in an age where Christianity does not rule the world.
Ugh, so many people think that America was founded on the stupid religion. Stupid, it was founded on capitalism and freedom. That also means not force feeding bullshit down student's throats at school.
GhostBat
06-22-2011, 05:46 PM
Personally I actually like celebrations of beauty, even if its really shallow but the whole concept beyond that where they judge these girls personalities and morality never really registered with me.
YES. Thank you.
I know that might piss off some feminists, but... *shrug*. That's why I watch these pageants, for the beauty. :p
Fenris_brood
06-22-2011, 06:17 PM
YES. Thank you.
I know that might piss off some feminists, but... *shrug*. That's why I watch these pageants, for the beauty. :p
Ya'gals are just straight to the point here, all and all it is in fact all about that, these kind of contests have little to do about political and scientific views and more about just looking your best. It's rather innapropriate that questions like this be made and an actual intelligent answer be expected.
However, that animation of Sarah Palin severly scares me, and I think it is the sole reason I'm awake right now.
FMtRIS
12-22-2011, 08:09 PM
Miss "USA" Pageant! U-S-A Its only one country...
As far as feminism is concerned, the olde school suffragettes would probably nuclear dope slap these people.
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