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werebeast
10-15-2003, 09:22 PM
i have a question for all you werewolf belivers. how can you tell that you are a victim of a werewolf. I heard that you are can tell that you are a victim of a werewolf by a pentagram on your wrist or palm, but i looked all over there and i see no pentagram. the reason i am asking this is because i like to walk in a park around !0:00-12:00 pm and when i walk i here steps of an animal but when i turn around i see something run into the shadows but i cant really tell what it was. and i am usually to afraid to follow it into the shadows because i dont want to get hurt. and when i am alone in my room listing to metalicca at night with no light on. i can see something that looks like eyes,but these are no usually eyes. i mean these i could look right througn you and tell that you are scared. well if anyone knows anyway that you are a victim of a werewolf besides a pentagram on your palm or wrist tell me.

Wolffy13
10-15-2003, 11:32 PM
What about a coyote? A friend of mine used to walk her 160 pound Rottweiler at close to midnight in a city park and she told me that coyotes sometimes followed her. She even turned around once and flashed her flashlight on one, making its eyes glow, which spooked her until she realized what it was. Coyotes are also no strangers to cities. They will wander so far into cities without any hesitation. It's a thought.

On a more logical note, what do werewolves and pentegrams have to do with each other? Not to mention, I don't think a werewolf would carry a permanent marker just to mark up your hands. You gotta' remember, a lot of legends were made up by some pretty stupid people who inhabited the dark ages, when everything was considered evil. If there truly are werewolves out there, why would they be the monsters that legends claim they are, when the human and wolf side isn't normally like that? Just saying, I believe in werewolves, but I don't believe EVERYTHING one hears about them.

Nivek
10-16-2003, 09:21 AM
On a more logical note, what do werewolves and pentegrams have to do with each other?

Though I know nothing about being a victem, I do have a pentacle on the palm of my right hand. I can scan it sometime if anyone is interested. No, it is not marker, it is in the lines and very prominent. There have been several mythologies in which this is a sign denoting a Werewolf, though it is also a majikal sign marking those called "Manifesters", a kind of wish granter.

LV426
10-16-2003, 11:33 AM
Victim of a werewolf? I suppose you kow you are a victim when he or she is leaping at your throat.

AS for signs indicating that you are a werewolf, a pentacle in the palm is a purely fictional invention. I believe the first occurance of such is in the Wolfman Movie 1941.

There are some signs that a person is a werewolf that were noted in myth and lore, such as excessive body hair, reddish tinged fingernails, toenails, and teeth, elongated and pointed canine teeth, brows that meet in the middle aka the unibrow, hair on the backs of the hands, loss of memory or blank spaces of whereabouts, sleep walking, and dry mouth and eyes.

punisher
10-16-2003, 02:30 PM
You are correct on the fist usage Lycan. Siodmak was only given 2 weeks to write the script. He didn't have time to do any real research, so he made up most of it. That accounts for most of the inaccuracies in the movie. These deviations from historical legends have become the basis for the modern myth of the werewolf. The full moon, the silver bullet, what a werewolf looks like, that gypsy saying:
Even a man who is pure in heart,,
And says his prayers by night,
May become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms
And the autumn moon is bright.


There are legends of psy-werewolves. This would be where a witch, warlock, or other evil person; somehow afflicts their victim with lycanthropy (the mental condition wherein a person believes they are a wolf). There are some books on the subject, but most are pretty horrid.

J.L.R.
10-17-2003, 07:51 AM
In truth I think it is more likely you would be attacked by a rabid girl scout, or mobbed by the Olsen Twins over being attacked...and surviving a werewolf ambush.

I have to say after seeing graphic images of animal attacks, most of the time people were torn limb from limb, and by chance survived, so I doubt you will need any clarification that you were attacked. "Remember you are alive when they start to eat you..."

Tempest
10-19-2003, 01:40 PM
brows that meet in the middle aka the unibrow
*loud gasp* I'd have a unibrow if I didn't pluck my eyebrows!!!! I must be a werewolf... *begins to foam at the mouth, growling loudly* All shall die at the hands of the horrible UNIBROW WOMAN!!!! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHA!!!

*clears throat*
Instead of jumping to the conclusion that a werewolf is following you and sneaking into your room to listen to Metallica, why not look at other possibilities, too?
Perhaps this is a totem trying to make itself known to you. Many times, when a totem is trying to tell you it's there, you will see him/her/it wherever you go. Have you considered this? Sometimes the best way to find something out is to look inside yourself for the answer.

McKitty
10-20-2003, 09:43 PM
Also a "strawberry" birthmark is a sign of a werewolfism. I have one on my right knee, a huge ugly thing that everyone asks if it's a burn mark. IT'S NOT!! But anywho, I got one and I'm not howling at the moon every time it's full.

Stupid myths and their promises :beerchug:

LV426
10-20-2003, 11:33 PM
Howling at the moon is a common mythconception. The only reason that the full moon is associated with werewolves is because wolves were heard more during a full moon. And people hearing the eerie wolfsong became frightened and attributed it to man eating beasts.

Now wolves don't howl at the moon. They throw their head back in order to project their voices into the air so that it carries further. Wolves are more active during full moons because it gives them light to hunt by. They are more vocal because they are more active. Their howls are their language and they use them to communicate. Some are hunting howls, some are territorial howls. some are just "I'm happy I am here with my family" howls. The tones are different and each has a different sound. In fact there are several recordings of the Yellow Stone wolves and they have versions of each kind of howl and there is a definite difference.

The moon has very little to do with a werewolf's shifting or howling, it may be that maybe a werewolf just feels the need to communicate too. Well, if there are werewolves.

lordragoon
10-21-2003, 04:33 PM
Mythconception?
Anyway, on the main thread, signs include death, large scars or wounds that healed remarkably quickly, aversion to perfume or Italian food, tendancy toward previously unliked food, increased tolerance for alcohol and other drugs, increased hearing, decreased artistic ability (visual), and migraines.
That would be the symptoms without any cuts, bites, or maulings. The other list is longer.

ThrasherCub
11-09-2003, 10:39 PM
All this talk of hairy hands and unibrows and pentagrams is a bit odd. I'm sorry, but no one should probably be looking to old myths for facts. They used their deductive thinking of the time which was mainly that if you were different in a bad way you were of the devil and if you were different in a good way you were of the devil. Horray. Unibrows and hairy hands or anywhere else, the figured that you'd have more hair than a normal person - after all you whole body DOES get covered in hair when you shift. As for the Penagram, that's because the Christian-based explanation for werewolves was that the shifter in question had made a pact with Satan. The pentagram was originaly a pagan symbol (and christians of the time saw it as some of the most satanic stuff ever), but this part kinda made sence. The head of a goat is a symbol of satan, and if you look at a pentagram (five sided star with one point facing down, not two) it's the shape of a goat's head. The center part is the main part, the bottom spike is the beard, the two side spikes are the ears flattened down and the top two are his horns.
Anyway, I'm am guessing that the stalker in question is a coyote or a racoon or such, and if you'd like a spirit-based answer than I'll say it's a kindred spirit that likes messing with you some (I know mine does).

-Nivek, I'd like to see that-

Es gibt nix
was es nicht gibt

Xzengrim
11-10-2003, 02:12 AM
I would say that the number one sign is turning into a wolf. You won't miss that. Trust me.


But seriously, classical mythology points out weres as having:
large birthmarks or moles, the pentagram either in the hand or somewhere on the body, unibrow, clawed fingernails, protrusive canine teeth, ears that are small and pointed, a widow's peak (v-shaped hairline), aversion to perfumes or strong scents, sudden dietary shifts, internal hair, long feet or fingers, changing eye colour, and a host of other things.

Come to think of it, I've said it before... but I used to know a guy who had a pentagram in his hand. It wasn't a scar, it was just there from the way the lines in his hand were.

The weird thing was, he looked like the Mediterranean sort of werewolf stereotype. He was real little, but he had the haircut and the unibrow and the pentagram.

And he sat across a table from Grim, who boasts of the many stereotypes of the Teutonic werewolf. It was just weird, to see the two of us sitting there.

Mike_Mabry
11-15-2003, 11:14 AM
possibly, its a dog or coyote following u. And in your room, its cd player little lights reflecting off sumthin.

moonrise
12-14-2003, 03:23 PM
Firstly Yay Metallica! (have you heard 'Of wolf and man?') and secondly, perhaps you're like me. I'm not kidding when I say I've seen something or heard something that no one else can hear and it's scary sometimes but you're either really being followed by something (lol Nocturne!) or you haven't been getting enough sleep like me. Maybe there's a spirit in your park, all you have to do is to find out what it wants. Or you could take a really big flashlight with you next time you go and then you can tell, and maybe take someone else with you to see if they see it too.
And I have most of those signs of being a werewolf but I'm still not fully sure I am one. Is bloodlust a sign of lycanthropacy? :droolbloo

thornpoppy
01-26-2004, 01:32 AM
Howling at the moon is a common mythconception. The only reason that the full moon is associated with werewolves is because wolves were heard more during a full moon. And people hearing the eerie wolfsong became frightened and attributed it to man eating beasts.

Now wolves don't howl at the moon. They throw their head back in order to project their voices into the air so that it carries further. Wolves are more active during full moons because it gives them light to hunt by. They are more vocal because they are more active. Their howls are their language and they use them to communicate. Some are hunting howls, some are territorial howls. some are just "I'm happy I am here with my family" howls. The tones are different and each has a different sound. In fact there are several recordings of the Yellow Stone wolves and they have versions of each kind of howl and there is a definite difference.

The moon has very little to do with a werewolf's shifting or howling, it may be that maybe a werewolf just feels the need to communicate too. Well, if there are werewolves.

Truth is ever so much more interesting than the fiction:) Bravo.
:beerchug: