Alpha wolves?

[Blue Eyed Beaute]

I just have a question. Who would consider themselves alpha. I don't want a fight. I'm curious. There might be alot of you who think you are. I not :D . Good for me. I just want to hear from some alphas. True alphas.

[McKitty]

I just have a question. Who would consider themselves alpha. I don't want a fight. I'm curious. There might be alot of you who think you are. I not :D . Good for me. I just want to hear from some alphas. True alphas.

If by alpha, you're referring to actual werewolves, then no one here as there's really no such thing as a werewolf and if there was, well, they wouldn't be advertising it on this site.

If by alpha you're referring to someone who's a leader, confident, and dominate over most situations, then I'd call myself in that catergory and that catergory only.

And then again, if there were werewolves, I wouldn't be one. I'd be a were-kitty :)

[WareW-Believer]

I don't consider myself an alpha. For one, I actually hate being a leader. I think I'm more of a "messenger boy" for the alpha in a sence. I can't fight (lest I don't think I can, never had the opportunity) but I sure can run :D.

[VHD_Rabbit]

I have as many leadership qualities as I need to get what I want, but no more.

[Xavious]

I'd be more of a beta. Recieveing and giving commands and seeing that they are carried out is what I excell at. I could possibly be a temporary alpha but nothing more as I need some form of direction.

[Creed Ithaeur]

I'd be an alpha, only if there was noone better for the position though. If there was someone more qualified and or better for the position, then I would surrender leadership to them.

[Cheater388]

If there was a leadership position to be filled, I would run away from it as fast as my legs can take me.

[Blue Eyed Beaute]

If by alpha you're referring to someone who's a leader, confident, and dominate over most situations, then I'd call myself in that catergory and that catergory only.

And then again, if there were werewolves, I wouldn't be one. I'd be a were-kitty :)
I would refer to the people who write here. Mainly looking at everybodies different perspectives. I'd think everyone would have a different idea of Alpha. I like to see how we all would place ourselves. I am a werewolf. I guess you would call me therian or something. In a pack terms I would not be Alpha. People tell me I am in being someone who's a leader, dominate in most situations so on as you said. I don't like to be. I have a friend werewolf(like me :D ). I fight for dominance with her. I know she's not Alpha. I would be a bit lower than beta, but higher than Omega. :cool:

[Tundra-cub]

i'm considered a beta :wavey:

[EdgeOfNight]

I'm an AlphaWolf, or what you could precive to be an alpha. I run with a differant sort of pack, therefor there is no need for the alpha, or beta names. There are many times of alpha's but they are mainly leaders due to thier nature.

This is my first post on this site, this place is neat.

NorthWolf

[Blue Eyed Beaute]

This is my first post on this site, this place is neat.

NorthWolf
That is good for you. Thanx for answering.

[Joker Fire]

Technicly I'm not a wolf, but Jackal. But I would consider myself as Alpha if I were a wolf.

[stinky_hyena]

Yes, a lot of variables and different ways to define make such a curiosity question tricky to give an honest, accurate answer to.

My anal serious reply:
I don't know where I'd make the cut as human or beast in a pack structured social order. I think I'd be somewhere between Alpha thru Omega in the middle possibly.

My fun reply:
OMEGA! "Hey, are you gonna finish eating that?!" *snatches edible and runs like hell for cover, gulping down edible along the way*

[Blue Eyed Beaute]

I like my position. That would be in a pack. Lower rankers don't have to worry about things like not getting food, not having someone to play with, or even dying from a battle with Alpha. Beta can die from loss of blood, too many battles, or anything from a dominence battle. As long as I, and others, understand their place among the pack, then we have a peaceful pack.

In human sense, I am a Alpha. People look up to me. I absolutly hate it. I have been told over and over I am a leader from adults and even people the same age as me. One cool thing about being an Alpha is that not erverybody chalenges you. They sometimes give me space. That is good.

[VHD_Rabbit]

I would have thought food a primary concern of lower-ranking animals.

[koben]

beta, I would rather some one put their foot on the ice first so if anything goes wrong it wont happen to me, but i would fight not to be last. At hard times im a more a helper than commander and would rather be the second to call on than the first whereas i can add to what the first did and not look like a fool if the first idea failded i would have a second chance to correct it.

[Ragarath Undahn-05]

definitely a beta

...or an outcast wolf...

"Don't want to meet your daddy

Just want you in my Caddy"

[deVersipellis]

Personally, I think that the position of Alpha has more advantages than disadvantages. From personal experience from being both Beta and Alpha, the battle was worth it... :beerchug:

[Ves]

I should point out that humans have alphas and betas too. Want to see an example of a human alpha male? head off down to a pub in the city of London on a Friday night, you're sure to see loads of the bastards.

I should also point out that being an alpha doesn't necessarily have anything to do with leadership, it's more to do with bullying... and having sex.

[deVersipellis]

I should also point out that being an alpha doesn't necessarily have anything to do with leadership, it's more to do with bullying... and having sex.

The position is noble and full of stature. The bullying is usually NOT an Alpha (it's called a tyrant)! Sex is also not only for the Alpha, anyone can have it. Do not insult the position so many have risked their health to get!

[Ves]

The position is noble and full of stature. The bullying is usually NOT an Alpha (it's called a tyrant)! Sex is also not only for the Alpha, anyone can have it. Do not insult the position so many have risked their health to get!
Uh huh...
I was talking about actual wolves, where the position of alpha isn't exactly "noble" as "necessary evil".

[deVersipellis]

:mad: EVIL!!! You think that rank, in wolves or elsewhere, is EVIL!!!

What defines good from evil in your own mind? Private message me the answer, so that this thread is not deleted.

[Ves]

:mad: EVIL!!! You think that rank, in wolves or elsewhere, is EVIL!!!
What defines good from evil in your own mind?
Oh FFS, kindly stop acting like a child who's had it's toys taken away, and actually read what I said. Then go and actually learn about WOLVES, actual wolves, not therians, not were's, not whatever you want to refer to them as.

In wolf society (again I'm talking about the actual things here), social dominance is decided through conflict, i.e. they lay the smack down on each other to get the position and then continue to do so to remain there. They don't use Star Trek diplomacy, and they sure as hell don't decide who's in charge over a cup of tea and cake. It's not noble, it's savage and sometimes challengers die as a result. This makes it not good (from a human moral standpoint) but it is necessary to maintain a strong pack, and thus the figure of speech "necessary evil" is used. This does not mean it's evil in a genocide kind of fashion, or even in a wicked witch of the west kind of way - it's just not that pleasant.

Now unknot your knickers and move on.

[Arianaa]

Alpha? If I had the chance, sure, I'd take it. I like making decisions for a group, and well my friends always look up to me for help, so I'm kinda used to it. :p I don't like taking orders from others who think they're superior than me.

[WareW-Believer]

I don't like taking orders from others who think they're superior than me.
A men to that. (can a guy (me) who's not religious say that?)
I'd rather be the bodyguard than the alpha.

[Blue Eyed Beaute]

The position is noble and full of stature. The bullying is usually NOT an Alpha (it's called a tyrant)! Sex is also not only for the Alpha, anyone can have it. Do not insult the position so many have risked their health to get!
I couldn't have said it better. :beerchug:

[deVersipellis]

[QUOTE=Ves]
In wolf society social dominance is decided through conflict, i.e. they lay the smack down on each other to get the position and then continue to do so to remain there.

It's not noble, it's savage and sometimes challengers die as a result. This makes it not good (from a human moral standpoint) but it is necessary to maintain a strong pack, and thus the figure of speech "necessary evil" is used. QUOTE]


Yes, the battle is 'necessary', but it is not a family of lions... their wolves (were or actual) the whole point is to; yes, make sure that the leader is strong, but also to show his strength to the pack. A leader is noble, strong (mentally and physically), and CAN LEAD WITH RESPECT NOT FORCE CONTINUALLY!

A good leader is not (as I said before) a tyrant! :mad:


Oh and thank you for the complement, Blue Eyed Beaute. :beerchug:

[McKitty]

Yes, the battle is 'necessary', but it is not a family of lions... their wolves (were or actual) the whole point is to; yes, make sure that the leader is strong, but also to show his strength to the pack. A leader is noble, strong (mentally and physically), and CAN LEAD WITH RESPECT NOT FORCE CONTINUALLY!

A good leader is not (as I said before) a tyrant! :mad:


Animals don't know the meaning of the word Tyrant so don't bring it in.

Wolves run on the strongest pair gets to breed and rule the pack. Why? So the strongest genes can continue the line. There's no honor, nobility, respect, it's merely "The strong surivive"

In fact, wolves are in some ways considered cruel and "evil", just look at the position of the Omega. This poor guy has to fend for himself most of the time, he gets last pick of food, gets beat up by the others, is the scape-goat of the pack, and is last for, well, everything.

How do wolves pick Alphas? By fighting, sometimes to the death.

***

Please, don't even bring lions into this because their way of 'pack/pride' life is 180 degrees from a wolf. Lions group together not in pairs or alphas, they group as a pride of females patrolled by one or two males. The males watch the territory, the females hunt/care for cubs.

They are more brutal but it's not a 'tyrant'/

So, again, please, please, please don't get offended by nothing.

And you say you're 34? ...You sure?

[Ves]

Thanks McKitty.

[McKitty]

Thanks McKitty.

No problem, I can't stand stupidity

[deVersipellis]

Good argument, but don’t call anything ‘stupid’. I am not offended, because you actually seem like an intelligent person. Wolves were portrayed as evil because of the ignorance of man. Yes, the Alpha pair gains the right to breed to keep the strongest jeans in the pack, but if you were if that situation, would you want the weakest to breed and make a weaker pack? No, they might not know the definition of ‘tyrant’, but that does not mean that there aren’t any tyrants slipping through the cracks. Though, tyrants are quickly… ‘dethroned’.
The Omega deserves his place at the bottom and should be thankful that the pack lets him with them in the first place.
The battle for Alpha is tough and not a, ‘peaceful election’ because in the wild the toughest survive and the weak die, if those are let by the weak do not rise up, they will also die. If the fighting is to the death, then so-be-it. A good leader, has the great ability to lead and conquer.

Also, you should say ‘anything’ not, ‘nothing’. :droolbloo

[McKitty]

Good argument, but don’t call anything ‘stupid’. I am not offended, because you actually seem like an intelligent person. Wolves were portrayed as evil because of the ignorance of man. Yes, the Alpha pair gains the right to breed to keep the strongest jeans in the pack, but if you were if that situation, would you want the weakest to breed and make a weaker pack? No, they might not know the definition of ‘tyrant’, but that does not mean that there aren’t any tyrants slipping through the cracks. Though, tyrants are quickly… ‘dethroned’.
The Omega deserves his place at the bottom and should be thankful that the pack lets him with them in the first place.
The battle for Alpha is tough and not a, ‘peaceful election’ because in the wild the toughest survive and the weak die, if those are let by the weak do not rise up, they will also die. If the fighting is to the death, then so-be-it. A good leader, has the great ability to lead and conquer.

Also, you should say ‘anything’ not, ‘nothing’. :droolbloo

I never said you were stupid, I said stupidity, which can mean you're acting tupid over an issue. Like this one.

Man did give wolves the "evil" concept. However, Man, such as what you were just doing, gave wolves personification and traits that only Man shows.

I never said wolves were evil, hell, I love the animals and think they're beautiful HOWEVER they do not know honor, nobility or any man-made concepts. They breed the strongest because that's what instinct drives them to do. There is no "oh, it's a choice to breed"

The Omega does not "deserve" it's place. Most of the time it's a cycle between whihc lower wolf gets to be scape-goat and smacked around this time.

"The battle for Alpha is tough and not a, ‘peaceful election’ because in the wild the toughest survive and the weak die, if those are let by the weak do not rise up, they will also die. If the fighting is to the death, then so-be-it. A good leader, has the great ability to lead and conquer."

Human concepts. The "weak" do not rise up, they get rid of the Alpha when the Alpha can no longer lead the pack.

Wolves are not conquerers, they fight to make sure the best is in the best position to breed.

Stop associating human concepts to wolves. If you want to do that, play a game of WereWolf: the Forsaken, like I do ;)

Then come talk to me about leaders and tyrants, heh

[deVersipellis]

I will stop this argument, and I have no regret to say you've made some really good point and brought that blabbering idiot to a term where he can pull his head out of the sand. :D

I have never heard of that game. I'll try it sometime.

[deVersipellis]

Blue Eyed Beaute made this thread and asked for no fights, so let us not continue this feud. I am an Alpha; I honor and respect the position.

As Blue Eyed Beaute said, "what do you prefer, or what are you?"

[McKitty]

Blue Eyed Beaute made this thread and asked for no fights, so let us not continue this feud. I am an Alpha; I honor and respect the position.

As Blue Eyed Beaute said, "what do you prefer, or what are you?"

...Your last commet was over 24 hours and no one, not even me, made another reply after you.

So question:

Who the HELL are you talking to?

[Deeper Shade]

I've been called a leader, and I like helping people and stuff but I find it to be a burden so I stick to my self unless the current leader of a group is pissing me off then I tell him to sit down and they usually do.

[Teuful Hunden]

Im a beta as far as the leading and an alpha as far as the fighting ablities are concerned but am a skilled leader i just choose not if i think someone else is donig a good job

[Blue Eyed Beaute]

Blue Eyed Beaute made this thread and asked for no fights, so let us not continue this feud. I am an Alpha; I honor and respect the position.

As Blue Eyed Beaute said, "what do you prefer, or what are you?"
Thank you very much.

[Black Voltrosia]

Alpha. My pack here is very small, pretty much me and my beta, and we came to the conclusion peacefully. There aren't anymore wolf therianthropes here, none that I know of anyway. If there are and they want my position, we both will have one hell of a battle on our hands...

But yea, I like to lead, I'm stubborn and territorial, and I can put up one hell of a fight. Hard to be human and animal, though, the two minds fight a lot. I try to be nice and firm, but its hard.

Just my two cents.. or three... maybe four...? :shrug:

[Kasharu-Melfia]

Alpha. My pack here is very small, pretty much me and my beta, and we came to the conclusion peacefully. There aren't anymore wolf therianthropes here, none that I know of anyway. If there are and they want my position, we both will have one hell of a battle on our hands...

But yea, I like to lead, I'm stubborn and territorial, and I can put up one hell of a fight. Hard to be human and animal, though, the two minds fight a lot. I try to be nice and firm, but its hard.

Just my two cents.. or three... maybe four...? :shrug:


-Raises her hand- I think that was about ten cents my happy alphess. But who's really counting. And me.. well i'm the Beta of my pack as if you people haven't already guessed. I like my position alot actually and like being under Vol. If anyone ever tried to overthrow her I think they would have to go through me first even though a direct challenge to my Alphess isn't something I should interfere in. But human emotions get the best of me sometimes and I get protective. Bite me.

Like I said before, I like my position. Though I am older than my Alphess, I willingly gave the title to her. I'm not fit to lead any packs. I am not much of a fighter at all, far too mellow. And i'm too playful, like an overgrown pup. I let Vol deal with all the hard stuff... but since it's basically just me and her for the moment, there's really not much to deal with at all.

And now look, i've added my twenty cents as well. Haha.

[deVersipellis]

So, how many cents are you willing to give:D

Glad you like your position; though, you shouldn't interfere with a battle with your alpha.

[Kasharu-Melfia]

So, how many cents are you willing to give:D

Glad you like your position; though, you shouldn't interfere with a battle with your alpha.


Eighty two cents is my limit! And I know I shouldn't interfere in her battles... she'd most likely eat me if I did anyways... >.<

[deVersipellis]

Speaking of which, when are you planning to fight Vol?

[Kasharu-Melfia]

Speaking of which, when are you planning to fight Vol?

Fight Vol?! Are you nutty or something?! She's far stronger than me and has the right things to lead the pack... that's why I willingly handed her the position of Alphess. Oh you silly wolf. ^.^ I would never fight her.

[deVersipellis]

I predict... you will be removed from the position of beta as soon as another joins your pack... no offence.

[Black Voltrosia]

My beta is tough and can handle herself. True, I can't interfere should someone challenge her. Her puppy personality isn't all that's there.

[HybridMonster]

I would actually consider myself alpha becuase i fight when it is needed. and i think myself as a good leader.

[demonwulv]

Fight Vol?! Are you nutty or something?! She's far stronger than me and has the right things to lead the pack... that's why I willingly handed her the position of Alphess. Oh you silly wolf. ^.^ I would never fight her.

She has the right things to lead the pack? What are they? I'm curious.....

[demonwulv]

Fight Vol?! Are you nutty or something?! She's far stronger than me and has the right things to lead the pack... that's why I willingly handed her the position of Alphess. Oh you silly wolf. ^.^ I would never fight her.

Hybrid and I, are searching for Betas. Interested?

[Kayne]

I find it hard to classify myself, beta doesn't suite me simply because I can't stand to follow some elses lead and often challenge any above me.
Alpha doesn't fit the bill either, all the decisions responsibilities just bug the hell outta me.

So I just follow this phrase "I am as others see me"

[Kasharu-Melfia]

Hybrid and I, are searching for Betas. Interested?

I'm sorry, but i'm loyal to my little pack. We're working on recruiting in our area, but it's hard to find others like us in this little town. And about the "right things to lead" ... er .. thing... well she just has the right commanding instincts. She's level headed and strong and quite wise.

[specopssoldier]

ok....i have some packmembers.

one male and one female....i consider myself mostly the alpha because..im the most agressive and are older and social able. the other two are very good themselves and have a pure heart but i dont think they could take my place so to speak. im not being an ass and try my best to look after them. but my work keeps me busy as well. of course i got msn lol.

myself im calm, friendly and patient.....but can be agressive and fight like hell. my packmembers know what im worth and we talk a lot...

[livinginshadows]

I won't say much but the seound person replying is dead wrong. Werewolves exsist in the world and are good at hiding it. Also they dont just change at a full moon. We change when we want but at full moons...it is hard to explain...its so strong that its hard to resist. Also Alphas are a werewolf who became one through sorcery, birth, or etc. and beta are ones bitten from the alpha. They are carying his blood. Also if a beta bites a wolf he is still beta from carrying alphas blood, and that bitten wolf still has the alphas blood in him. So you can't say that you are an alpha becuase your a leader. And for the record i wont say much more but i searched long and hard for magick and sorcery to change to a wolf. It worked. Alpha. And by they way being a werewolf isnt the greatest. Once you taste blood you are dammed on the earth forever. Even when you die you cannot enter heaven. If a beta is bitten and does not taste blood he is ok. He must kill or through some action help kill the alpha to restore to human. Lucky for me i choose who are my betas and you must always watch your back. Dodge all the silver bullets- Shadow

[specopssoldier]

well.....i dont believe being a werewolf means you wont get to hevaen instead i believe my own "religion". while not on this moment being a full werewolf but in the line of becoming one. together with mine beta male. and i believe the judgement and tasks brought to me by luna so i commit myself to her and also believe in the immortal love with my mate to keep me going on this world.

[deVersipellis]

I won't say much but the seound person replying is dead wrong. Werewolves exsist in the world and are good at hiding it. Also they dont just change at a full moon. We change when we want but at full moons...it is hard to explain...its so strong that its hard to resist. Also Alphas are a werewolf who became one through sorcery, birth, or etc. and beta are ones bitten from the alpha. They are carying his blood. Also if a beta bites a wolf he is still beta from carrying alphas blood, and that bitten wolf still has the alphas blood in him. So you can't say that you are an alpha becuase your a leader. And for the record i wont say much more but i searched long and hard for magick and sorcery to change to a wolf. It worked. Alpha. And by they way being a werewolf isnt the greatest. Once you taste blood you are dammed on the earth forever. Even when you die you cannot enter heaven. If a beta is bitten and does not taste blood he is ok. He must kill or through some action help kill the alpha to restore to human. Lucky for me i choose who are my betas and you must always watch your back. Dodge all the silver bullets- Shadow

Do you think before you start saying BS like that?! The 'fool' moon! Silver! DAMNED SOULS!!! Do you listen to the shit that comes out of your own mouth!

You should go back to the 'happy' home where you came, and/ or... STOP AND LISTEN/READ WHAT IS COMING FROM YOUR MOUTH/FINGERS!

[deVersipellis]

well.....i dont believe being a werewolf means you wont get to hevaen instead i believe my own "religion".

Good words, I am a Christian and the power of forgiveness and mercy, are very strong ideals in the Christian faith!

[specopssoldier]

sorry versipellis...i meanth an religion that focuses an Luna and all that :) but its nothing evil. its very honour based and peacefull. and by the post about silver and all is not true I think. I'm sure nothing is immortal to rifle fire and I got my own ideas about werewolves and all and not one thing said came close to what I think...by the way anybody saying werewolves are immortal should ask me how an 5.56 mm bullet work.

I only wished werewolves were immortal lol.

[ThrasherCub]

Wow. Lot of interesting posts, a few that scare me. I personally have never had a 'real' pack, as I have never knowingly met a therian in real life (in fact it is questionable as to my own therianthropy. Honestly, I gave up on finding out shortly after I gave up on caring). However, my ways are contagious as it turns out, so my groups of friends start forming pseudo-packs around me. In these demi-packs, I prefer to be Beta. Rather than take the lead, I prefer to take a less recognized approach at supporting, taking the occasional dip down to the Omega level. From my experiences, becoming the Omega is actually a sub-division of being Beta. Think about it in very cut-and-dry terms; Alpha is the leader, Beta is support, others are workers, Omega is the defuser. I know, very understated, but that's besides the point.

If defusing a bad situation is what the pack needs to stay together and with the program, does this not sound like something that should be done by one who's purpose is to be in direct support of the Alpha? When my alpha has the right idea, but others are unsure, I will purposely through out a plan that sounds about as good, but has a hole that the Alpha can identify, and thereby shoot down so that the others will see the Alpha's plan for what it is - the right plan. It just so happens that they would see this best through an example of comparison. Additionally, I will make myself a target for the Alpha if it needs to be reinforced that the Alpha is in charge, and this would be a better example and my just feeding the ego fires. Granted, I realize that holding the pack together is a group effort, but if it is an issue that relates directly to the Alpha, it would seem to fall into the Beta's lap for caretaking.

All that said, I usually end up being the Alpha. Not my cup of tea, but I don't usually find others better suited for it. I can walk the walk, talk the talk, and may well bleed logic and practicality if you prick me.

[deVersipellis]

Nice view, and truthful...

[shadow_pup]

I find it hard to classify myself, beta doesn't suite me simply because I can't stand to follow some elses lead and often challenge any above me.
Alpha doesn't fit the bill either, all the decisions responsibilities just bug the hell outta me.

So I just follow this phrase "I am as others see me"

id say u were a lone wolf. i am young so i am better with authority, which i have :love: wolfie love if ya no wat i mean :D

[ThrasherCub]

While not too in-depth, shadow_pup's statement looks pretty accurate. If you can't lead others, but also can't stand to be lead by others, odds are you're not meant to be with others.

There are a few wolves like that, but terribly few. The desire to be with others is wired into a wolf's psyche just as much as it is into ours. On the down side for wolves though, humans can survive on their own. In fact, it is now possible to be a well-educated and successful member of society without setting foot out of your house even once. There are occasional wolves who take the solitary path, but the majority give up out of necessity, or die because they fail to do so.

Warning to shadow_pup - the folks here don't like choppy sentences. No "u" instead of "you" and so on. This is forgivable - it's your first post, but keep that in mind. Besides that, while we who speak english as our native language can figure out that 'no' is meant to be "know", others who learned english as a second language (or third, or fourth...) are not so lucky.

[deVersipellis]

'Kerl'... never thought of you as a lone one...

[Kayne]

'Kerl'... never thought of you as a lone one...

Are you referring to me????
sorry if this is a stupid question, bad habit.

[deVersipellis]

Are you referring to me????
sorry if this is a stupid question, bad habit.

Yes I am... don't be sorry, I geet that alot.

[Bantam]

Out of curiosity (and I apologize if this has already been discussed as I did not read the entire thread) do any of you believe that your therianthropy is linked to the whole alpha concept? I mean, if you believe you have the spirit of a wolf do you believe then that you have the spirit of a particular type of wolf, say an alpha? Hope that made sense.

Anyway, I've always had a strong and dominating personality, not that I always mean to be that way though. I guess...well I guess that whether or not I'd be an "alpha" would depend on my "pack." I've been told I have an alpha personality. I am content to let some people lead me though, but I don't think that feeling dominate makes you a leader.

[deVersipellis]

That felling does, and doesn't.

It doesn't let you bare your stoumach (can't spell) in defeat. Personaly, I don't think i have a wolf 'sprit' in me, and no... this wasn't already talked about.

[ThrasherCub]

Well, Bantam, that appears to vary from person to person. Some describe their therioside as having a specific gender, personality, and slight history; some have basic concepts; some have generic wolves; some have entire past lives. It really does appear to vary greatly depending upon the exact nature of the human-wolf relationship, and just how far it goes.

And then there are people like me. I'm usually the alpha. I'm also a coyote, so go figure.

[deVersipellis]

Well... I would have to say, I am looking for a strong Beta (New Alpha) anyone interested?

[WareW-Believer]

Well... I would have to say, I am looking for a strong Beta (New Alpha) anyone interested?
Strong physically or mentally? Physically, well count me out there. I'm only good at running :D.

[ThrasherCub]

Well... I would have to say, I am looking for a strong Beta (New Alpha) anyone interested?
Wouldn't your pack have something to say about roping in a stranger to become Beta? If I was 'next in line' as it were, and the Alpha chose what appears to be some random yahoo off the internet and promote them above me, I would have plenty to say. Specificaly "Screw you!", and would find the members that agree with me (which would likely be all of them) and go start my own pack.

Wouldn't it make sense to just promote the 'gamma' wolf? A question out of sheer curiosity though, if someone such as myself were to join the pack, how would that work? Do you have a forum or something?



Sorry, I am just fascinated by packs that exist in any way on the internet. They do things so differently. :)

[WareW-Believer]

Sorry, I am just fascinated by packs that exist in any way on the internet. They do things so differently.We can always count on you to say something that contradicts.

Now, there are packs outside the internet. This aint no "cyber pack" or whatever you wanna call it. Also, for example, it could be a pack of muscle cars. Like my dad used to be part of. (big group of people who have cars from the 70's) "Looking for strong Alpha" could mean their looking for someone who has a powerfull muscle car. Like a small muscle car pack I know in California, their "alpha" has a 70 Cuda with a 440 Hemi. Awesome car.

[ThrasherCub]

While I may be wrong in my assumption, judging from the context and the content of previous posts, it appears that this was a reference to a wolf-like pack, as opposed to something such as muscle cars. And I am quite aware that there are packs outside of the internet - if you read my posts you will see that I myself have been in a few, and never said they exist purely on the internet.

Now, where did I say something that contradicts?

[WareW-Believer]

Now, where did I say something that contradicts?
I couldn't think of the right word to use and "contradicts" seemed good at the time. Also, I still can't think of the word. Blame California!! (or NJ's poor roads)
Muscle cars- I was giving an example.

[ThrasherCub]

I realize that it was an example, but the point is that it sounded a bit more like a wolf-inspired pack than it did a common-interests group, which then lends to the idea that the Alpha is an actual leader as opposed to a trophy member.

Blame California!!
Why does everyone blame us!?

[WareW-Believer]

Why does everyone blame us!?
I'm able to blame it because I was born there and lived there for 12 years! The edumucation system sucked. (City-Monterrey Town-Marina) It is a wolf inspired group.

[deVersipellis]

Do you have a forum or something?

I have an instant messenger... atlas.axis@yahoo.com

[deVersipellis]

Also, ThrasherCub is right, I am looking for a Beta for a wolf-like pack.

[deVersipellis]

and i think myself as a good leader.

The question is, do others think of you a good leader?

[WareW-Believer]

Also, ThrasherCub is right, I am looking for a Beta for a wolf-like pack.
I think I'd qualify there. I'm a follower, not a leader. You tell me what to do and I do it, usually no questions asked. I'm also pretty quiet, my family is always telling me to say something.

[ThrasherCub]

But a Beta must be a leader just as much as the Alpha. They're a team, it's just that if there is a disagreement and no compromise can be found you defer to the Alpha.

[Butt-Pirate]

I actually think I am an "Alpha" male. Most dogs are scared of me. Plus guys get very intimidated by me for some reason. Specially when their girlfriends are near me.

[ThrasherCub]

That doesn't make you an Alpha, that makes you intimidating and either desirable or a sleaze-ball.

[WareW-Believer]

But a Beta must be a leader just as much as the Alpha. They're a team, it's just that if there is a disagreement and no compromise can be found you defer to the Alpha.
Well I understand that. I do have leadership qualities but I'd rather be more of a beta cause I'd rather be told what to do. To some extent of course.

[ThrasherCub]

Interesting. I enjoy the Beta possition as well, but I hate taking orders. I prefer the Beta possition because it is from there that I can best get my fingers into all aspects of the pack, and do the behind-the-scenes work that makes sure everything runs smoothly.

[DarkWolf]

I prefer the Beta possition because it is from there that I can best get my fingers into all aspects of the pack, and do the behind-the-scenes work that makes sure everything runs smoothly.That could SO be taken in the wrong way. :eek:

[ThrasherCub]

;) The wrong way would likely be the accurate way. ;)

[Blue Eyed Beaute]

Well... I would have to say, I am looking for a strong Beta (New Alpha) anyone interested?
Sorry, I guess I'm coming into this too late. But anyway, I would think it would be wrong of you to bring in another wolf into your pack that just may start a battle or conflict in hierarchy. That is unless you were planing on some problems and to watch (and maybe even partake in) the pack shift in status.

[ThrasherCub]

*is delighted that someone else finnaly sees that this could be a problem*

[thelupineyoulove]

[OFFTOPIC]I have no idea what an alpha werewolf is. In my opinion it is just male and female. I know about wolf hierachy but think all this "a beta wolf must be bitten by an alpha wolf" bull. If you are a were, thats alright with me.[\OFFTOPIC]

[WareW-Believer]

I have no idea what an alpha werewolf is.
Just think Alpha Wolf, and put "were" in front of it. There you go. Same goes for Beta

[Kitty-Kat-Kay]

My friends always say I am and put me in leadership status. So I guess in that sense I'd be an alpha.

Though I honestly do not like that position.