Astral Plane

[Xzengrim]

How many here believe that there's an Astral Plane?

I don't. But maybe a week ago, I had this dream that I was talking to another werewolf. I was teaching him how to shift. And I sort of got the impression that he wasn't just a dreamtime cardboard cutout. Maybe he was another person, who was dreaming of seeing me, from far away.
And I know that when I first started to Dshift, I had dreams that other werewolves came to me to show me how to shift. Which is weird, but makes me wonder if some of us are tied together by dreaming.

I don't suppose anyone remembers seeing me out there?

[Kishi-Garou]

Everyone has a spirit, an essence. Sometimes, when people die, and come back to life, they say they've had an outer body experience. They could see themselves over themselves. Your spirit is not limited to your body.

When you sleep, you may want to wander. Your complete relaxation, makes it easier for your spirit to leave your body, and go .. stroll. All the astral plane is, is just the spiritual reflection of the physical plane, and, as I have said before, it only vibrates faster than the physical. When you're in the astral plane, everything looks pretty much the same, except its different. The people there might have cultural influences slightly into the future, or a statue might be different. Trees may be in a place where a parking lot NOW is. All it is, is the reflection of ourselves. I know I have hung out with most everyone I know astrally. I used to walk around my town alot in my sleep. Its not all some mystical world, though there are other places, that everyone thinks it is. It is just as normal as you and me.

And Xzen, I know a pack of regular people astrally. I ran with them once, it was odd. I do believe a girl from my school, that was kind of like a sister to me, though I was a little bitch freshman year, who was there. I still haven't gotten the chance to ask her about it. Damn her and joining the navy!

Kishi

[purinpuff]

Now that I think about it, I have had dreams in a sort of twisted version of where I live (or twisted versions of places I know), and I'm pretty sure I've had more than one dream in those types of locations.

... But my dreams are just too weird to be anything more than my mind. I mean, I'm locked up inside my own world all the time, so why would I leave it when I'm asleep?

[FalseFace]

someone once told me that if u periodicly ask urself if ur dreaming through out the day u'll eventually do it while ur dreaming and have a lucid dream. i decided to try but when i woke up the next morning i couldn't remember any dreams, it was the weekend so i figured i would just go bad to sleep and then ask myself if i was dreaming. after a few min. i did fall back to sleep but when i asked myself if i was dreaming the answer was no but i knew i was asleep. i though wait u can't be asleep ur thinking so i sat up. it was a really strange feeling like i was some how sitting but not really. i kept wondering why everything was black and then realized it was because my eyes where closed, for some reason this freaked me out and i felt my body jump anf i was back in bed awake. i instantly thought that was cool lets try again before i wake up completly so i did the same thing only this time when i sat up i told myself that i could open my eyes because the me that was sitting up wasn't my body so i wouldn't wake up. well i opened my eyes and eveything looked normal and for a second i thought maybe i'd just sat up in bed and opened my eyes and i was making a fool of myself but everything felt a little different. i rubbed my hand on my covers and then looked down and noticed that part of i had disapeared and as i moved my hand over the cover different parts would appear and disappear. i thought about this for a second them i lifted my hand ans examined it and it was all there but when i put it on the cover it disapeared. it took me a min. but then i realized my hand was going through the cover not disapearing. this scared me and i felt my body jump as i woke up a second time.

i don't know a whole lot about astral projection but i've read up on it a little and i think this is the closest i've ever come. i have had one or two other experiences but they where more like dreams, maybe i'll tell u them later.

[DarkWolf]

Most parapsychologists (people who study the supernatural relative to people and their experiences) believe the astral plane is a wave of energy in a 4th Dimension. Everybody has energy around them, and one astral-relative theory is that an aura is that energy if a person that rippled in the astral plane. An OOE or Astral Projection is largely considered a person losing their conciousness with the energy and send it out into the astral plane. Due to the astral plane being a 4th dimension entity, time and distance becomes irrelevant.

Most ESP, or Extra Sensory Perception, is considered extra sense, that work on the principle of our five ordinary senses, but can affect, or tap into, the astral plane. Because time and distance is generally irrelevant to the astral plane, ESP abilities such as the three "sights" (clairvoyance - remote viewing, retrocognition - seeing visions of the past, precognition - seeing the future) are made possible, because the senses are using a 4th dimension.

Lucid dreaming (which is NOT astral projection) is often confused with Astral Projection, as the senses work equally in both. Because in lucid dreaming one has memory of their five senses, and can use the mind to "create" or mimic the ESP abilities they desire. They can move from one place to another with a thought. The controls and dynamics of this are similar to the Astral Projection, where one is simply an entity of energy amongst a sea of energy. Energy moves very fast, allowing the astral projected energy to simply will their flow in this astral plane along the 4th dimension to span great distances in an instant.

Due to the similarity between lucid dreaming and astral projection, the astral plane remains a contraversial theory. Because if they were the same - every person on this earth would have astral projected many times throughout their life which is something even the greatest and most optimistic of scientists and even parapsychologist strongly doubt. (because it would also mean I have astral projected anywhere between a minimum of 2486 and maximum of 4368 times... sorry but DOUBTFUL)

[nightstalker66]

Most parapsychologists (people who study the supernatural relative to people and their experiences) believe the astral plane is a wave of energy in a 4th Dimension. Everybody has energy around them, and one astral-relative theory is that an aura is that energy if a person that rippled in the astral plane. An OOE or Astral Projection is largely considered a person losing their conciousness with the energy and send it out into the astral plane. Due to the astral plane being a 4th dimension entity, time and distance becomes irrelevant.

Most ESP, or Extra Sensory Perception, is considered extra sense, that work on the principle of our five ordinary senses, but can affect, or tap into, the astral plane. Because time and distance is generally irrelevant to the astral plane, ESP abilities such as the three "sights" (clairvoyance - remote viewing, retrocognition - seeing visions of the past, precognition - seeing the future) are made possible, because the senses are using a 4th dimension.

Lucid dreaming (which is NOT astral projection) is often confused with Astral Projection, as the senses work equally in both. Because in lucid dreaming one has memory of their five senses, and can use the mind to "create" or mimic the ESP abilities they desire. They can move from one place to another with a thought. The controls and dynamics of this are similar to the Astral Projection, where one is simply an entity of energy amongst a sea of energy. Energy moves very fast, allowing the astral projected energy to simply will their flow in this astral plane along the 4th dimension to span great distances in an instant.

Due to the similarity between lucid dreaming and astral projection, the astral plane remains a contraversial theory. Because if they were the same - every person on this earth would have astral projected many times throughout their life which is something even the greatest and most optimistic of scientists and even parapsychologist strongly doubt. (because it would also mean I have astral projected anywhere between a minimum of 2486 and maximum of 4368 times... sorry but DOUBTFUL)




i get preminitions all the time but i dont astral project so much any more (maybe 3 times a week i stopped for a year and it took forever to get back into the swing of things)but how do you tell how strong an aura is and how far into the astral plane that one can go?

[NizGarouPrincess]

My friend had astral projected one night (well, actually, 7:30) and he went around our neighborhood. But that some night I had felt a presents at the door of my room. Then he told the same day that he had astral projected, and that he went to my house! :eek: He told me everything I had done, I HE was the presence I sensed! (ESP,freaky...)

[VHD_Rabbit]

So was it him that left you the presents?

[Wulf_Ryder]

Greetings,

I have very limited experience of the 'astral plane' as you call it, but from what I have experienced and what I have read about it, they seem to coincide. In order to take what I am going to talk about seriously, you will have to have experienced it for yourself (and I dont even understand it).

There are a number of states of conciousness that are similar but not quite the same thing - the most common is lucid dreaming. Out of body experiences are also something different.

The best way I can describe the astral is that there exists 'something' within all people that is able to retain a memory through the ages. One thing you might have read is that when you go there, it is common to see items, places, buildings, anything from the past. I have personally experieneced this. I saw train station in my home town that existed before I was born. About a year later, I saw a picture of it in the local paper (they had dug a bunch of stuff out of their archives).

I've had a couple of out of body experiences as well. These happened at a time when I was very ill. The longest of these was rather scary. I dont know how I got there but I remember leaving through a window and ending up over the field behind my house. The first thing I noticed was that the sun seemed to be in the north - which is impossible so I can only conclude that it wasnt a real location. To the south was nothing but darkness. When I decided to come back, it was difficult, I had to come back exactly the way I came and it seemed to take a while. When I woke up, my head was pounding and I knew that I had not been breathing. Any number of things can be concluded from that - maybe what I thought was the sun wasnt the sun...

Take what you will from this. I dont really expect you to understand unless you have had similar experiences yourself.