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DL Lycan
04-17-2006, 07:55 AM
How does therianthropy tie in with your life? Does it affect your daily actions or social life? Does it dictate the way you live or does it just add another perspective? My life's a little too complicated at the moment for me to make a judgement but I will as soon as I get back to "normal". I'm interested in your views though.

---Arawn---
04-17-2006, 04:41 PM
How does therianthropy tie in with your life? Does it affect your daily actions or social life? Does it dictate the way you live or does it just add another perspective? My life's a little too complicated at the moment for me to make a judgement but I will as soon as I get back to "normal". I'm interested in your views though.

Well, altough I don't do it on purpose, I have some habits that made my friends call me "dog", like smelling the food before eating...
But I think that what truly makes me a theriantrope (IF it makes me one) is the needing of a "pack", a close group of friends. I can be only at ease when I'm with them. I have friends outside of the "pack" but I don't like to hang out with them like I do with my "pack"...
But when I think at it, theriantropy just seems to be some coincidences...

TheBlueWolfW.W.
04-18-2006, 11:30 AM
Generally, the wolf takes part in most of my daily activites. There's so much...but I won't go into detail. I actually try very hard to keep the wolf at bay at times because it invades me when it should stay put...like when I drive.

Nightshifter
04-18-2006, 09:59 PM
How does therianthropy tie in with your life? Does it affect your daily actions or social life? Does it dictate the way you live or does it just add another perspective? My life's a little too complicated at the moment for me to make a judgement but I will as soon as I get back to "normal". I'm interested in your views though.
My wolf takes place in everything I do, because my wolf is who I am. I do not think of things the way humans do, I feel the need to be with others like me. Though I am afraid to reveal what I truely am to my family. The wolf does not really interfere with anything, except when I get mad. Then the wolf takes over and I feel like ripping the other person to shreds. I am mostly a full carnivore, I eat very few vegetables and fruits. This is basically all I have to say.

Tundra-cub
04-19-2006, 02:57 PM
My therianthropy gives me an amazing, unique, lupine perspective on life. I have my own territory, but i cry everynight for a pack, a loyal one. The wolf is me I have a right to not be called human. It makes me hate humanity and want to destroy it, and i'm slowly turning into a carnivore.

ThrasherCub
04-19-2006, 11:57 PM
It compells me to act out of accordance with the local laws. Thankfully, it keeps me from getting my ass arrested. It also causes me to have very very strange thoughts.

That's about it. Nothing cool and poetic.

Morgrim
04-20-2006, 09:14 AM
I'm still a little iffy on whether I'm therian or not, but generally my friends say I only show 'animal' when I get pissed. Then I have a habit of snarling at people, and I bit a guy hard enough to draw blood once. Since he was doing his best to beat me up at the time I don't exactly feel any remorse.

If anything, it fits in with the rest of my general weirdness, so I wouldn't say it affects my life anymore than something like my glasses, studies or funny ankles do.

TheBlueWolfW.W.
04-20-2006, 11:36 AM
My therianthropy gives me an amazing, unique, lupine perspective on life. I have my own territory, but i cry everynight for a pack, a loyal one. The wolf is me I have a right to not be called human. It makes me hate humanity and want to destroy it, and i'm slowly turning into a carnivore.

Truedat, Tundra! I can relate to your human hate and all...and the need for a pack. But I'm alone because there are no other Therians around me.

specopssoldier
04-20-2006, 01:04 PM
cool!! but seriousy guys. some humans are symphatetic to us as well. i got mates that are litterally prepared to die for me because im one of them. they really dont give an shit about that i am an friend of werewolves.

still...calling myself an therian...only in moments of combat i can get myself to call myself an therian when i bare my teeth and really feel to bite the throats out.....but instead i fire my heavy machineguns and anti tank weapons....

ThrasherCub
04-20-2006, 02:08 PM
but generally my friends say I only show 'animal' when I get pissed.
That's more common than you think. It's not some inner animal rage that angsty wannabe's talk about, it's more that the animal side is deep and instinctive, and the higher human mind tends to wash over it.

It's a lot like how you can carefully moniter everything that you say, until you get angry. At that point, you just tell it like it is, and then realize that it's your boss you just cussed out.

DL Lycan
04-20-2006, 02:12 PM
I bit a guy hard enough to draw blood once
The last person I bit went septic...the one before that doesn't have a scar because I actually took the end of his finger off.

ThrasherCub
04-20-2006, 02:18 PM
Why, pray tell, did you chomp off the end of a finger?

DL Lycan
04-20-2006, 03:37 PM
I thought I made that point clear? heh, Anyway back on topic,

I would hazard a guess at my therianthropy being involved with how I treat my friends, the kinds of noises I make when alerted or suprised, and sometimes the way I think, it doesn't interfere with my life at all, because it IS my life.

DarkWolf
04-20-2006, 04:47 PM
You know it's funny - many of these ways of therianthropy tying in with life like anger and such as doesn't actually show any relevance to other animals.

Where other things you mention are pretty much common in near-enough everybody to some degree.

So is there anything about therianthropy that gives you traits that, you know, aren't shared with the entirety of non-therianthropes?

DL Lycan
04-20-2006, 04:52 PM
Thats a point I'm trying to distinguish, hence why in my last post I put "I would hazard a guess" Thank you Dark wolf for pointing that out, But seeing as I've held this belief for a few years now, and my mentality is different now to before I started thinking I'm a therianthrope, I can't say I'd be able to distinguish a line very effectivly.

TheBlueWolfW.W.
04-21-2006, 11:36 AM
Anger is usually interpreted as being some part of being a Therian, but everyone has it. The only difference between my Wolf anger and a human's anger is the probably the fact that I go almost comletely Wolf. I snarl and growl and bare my teeth and act anything but "human."

SO I know we should be on topic. Okay. I was going to hunt things down this morning because I was hungry and the Wolf likes to chase squirlls and such. I'm glad I haven't killed anything yet, but I think the hunt would be a good experience.

ThrasherCub
04-21-2006, 03:07 PM
The only difference between my Wolf anger and a human's anger is the probably the fact that I go almost comletely Wolf. I snarl and growl and bare my teeth and act anything but "human."
Is it wolf-anger or is it more along the lines of Human-anger with lupine instinctual response?

I've had things anger me because they go against the nature of my therioside, and instinctively snapped at someone. I've also had someone anger me in a very human way, but I still snapped.

And on the other side of the coin, I've had animal-anger, and chewed someone out in plain english. The side that feels the anger isn't always the side that responds. One of many reasons why Therians make great subjects for people-watching.

Note to DL - no you didn't make it clear. All you said was that you bit a section of finger off. Perhaps you intended to explain why, but that thought never made it to the post.

Thoughtless
04-21-2006, 03:16 PM
Humans also growl when they get angry, though.

Or, upon a "deeper thought" I'm not sure. I've always assumed humans growl if they get angry enough, but that could be just because I do it. Hm.

Now that I think of it, I don't think I've seen anybody else growl. Funny.

DarkWolf
04-21-2006, 07:53 PM
A lot of people growl, I do and I'm not a therian. So do many of my friends and family.

Moving on:

One thing you have to be careful of in deciding which "side" of you is feeling whatever: Your "animal side" and "human side" are the exact same thing. Humans are animals, through and through. Another thing: few animals in the wild are ever angry. They only times they snarl or bite etc is when they either feel threatened or territorial - and neither is about anger.

So having spent most of my life with animals, reading about animals, watching animal documentaries, and talking with animal trainers I have come to one conclusion about these "anger = therian animal" claims: you're posting a load of crap.

Xavious
04-21-2006, 09:31 PM
In light of recent events I've discovered that I may not be a therian but I am still very much an animal spiritualist.

As for how I act. I have a few things in common with the wolf within and they occasionally manifest. When I feel threatened by another I'll either snarl/growl or give a slight whimper. This all depends on what 'rank' the person who gives the threat has. Those who I feel are below me I snarl or growl. Those above me I generally show signs of submission. As said before I mentally 'rank' those around me. I have a close circle of friends and I take a 'pack' mentality when around them. When I go somewhere alone I tend to move carefully but quickly while glancing at my surrounding often.

Thoughtless
04-22-2006, 03:13 AM
Quite a thought-provoking post. Anger is a human emotion, yes... or at least much more common in humans than animals...

Which would mean that the moments when you get angry, you're as far from whatever animal nature you might have as possible.

Worth considering.

A lot of people growl, I do and I'm not a therian. So do many of my friends and family.

Moving on:

One thing you have to be careful of in deciding which "side" of you is feeling whatever: Your "animal side" and "human side" are the exact same thing. Humans are animals, through and through. Another thing: few animals in the wild are ever angry. They only times they snarl or bite etc is when they either feel threatened or territorial - and neither is about anger.

So having spent most of my life with animals, reading about animals, watching animal documentaries, and talking with animal trainers I have come to one conclusion about these "anger = therian animal" claims: you're posting a load of crap.

Prince charming
04-22-2006, 06:03 AM
Originally Posted by DarkWolf
A lot of people growl, I do and I'm not a therian. So do many of my friends and family.

Moving on:

One thing you have to be careful of in deciding which "side" of you is feeling whatever: Your "animal side" and "human side" are the exact same thing. Humans are animals, through and through. Another thing: few animals in the wild are ever angry. They only times they snarl or bite etc is when they either feel threatened or territorial - and neither is about anger.

So having spent most of my life with animals, reading about animals, watching animal documentaries, and talking with animal trainers I have come to one conclusion about these "anger = therian animal" claims: you're posting a load of crap.


I must say that I love you DarkWolf. It seems like lots of people here claims that they are therians just because they want to be therians, they want to be different, to feel different, so they try to find all kinds of evidence to prove that they are in fact therians. But anger and some kind of connection to the moon and things like that does NOT count as evidence. Wake up people, realise that you aren't different, you are only humans, like the rest of us.

Morgrim
04-22-2006, 10:14 AM
I am personally rather confused about all these 'animal-side, human-side' discussions. I was always of the impression that therians were one, without sides; the only difference being that their normal state was slanted towards that of their theriotype.

Therefore, I am bowing out of this discussion thouroughly confused. :confused:

Thoughtless
04-22-2006, 01:11 PM
I am personally rather confused about all these 'animal-side, human-side' discussions. I was always of the impression that therians were one, without sides; the only difference being that their normal state was slanted towards that of their theriotype.

Therefore, I am bowing out of this discussion thouroughly confused. :confused:

I suppose it means your state of mind. Some (most?) therians experience "shifts" as well, where the animal gains more space and control.

StarHowler
04-22-2006, 07:25 PM
Anger is a bad thing to base Therian or Not Therian off of. For one some people are more insticitual and more agressive than other humans, its a natural personality variance.

The same things go for animals.

Ill use wolf for example. Simply because I am a wolf contherian.

Territories is something I am VERY sensitive too. I have my home turf. Im comfortable there. I will be assertive and agressive. I know my place.

I get out into social situations and Im timid. In large crowds I cant help but growl under my breath. I feel cornered/surrounded and want out. Im not growling out of anger, but out of destress of the situation. Still I control the urge to leave immediatly to do whatever is needed.

So, at home, sitting on my couch. Yes I snap my teeth at my bf when he tries to take my laptop or just happens to irritate me.

In public. I shy from confrontation. Its not my place. I have no stand in that setting.

Also I find my relationship with my boyfriend interesting. He is not therian. Neither one of us is nessicarily dominate or submissive to the other. We are equals. Yet if I do something that irritates him, or makes him even slightly angry. I practically shrink down and hide like a beaten dog.

Im sure you have seen the way a dog slumps when it knows its being scolded. Thats the way I respond. I act. And no, Im not beaten :P unless I ask for it rwar.

TheBlueWolfW.W.
04-25-2006, 11:38 AM
I'm going to slip back to the anger subject real quickly.

The differences I can tell in my wolf-anger and human-anger are these...human-anger is purely human. NO growling or any of that stuff. Just ordinary human. But when the wolf steps in, I act extremly wolfish and I begin to feel my phantom shifts start to happen, like my ears will pull back and such.

DL Lycan
04-25-2006, 11:42 AM
SO how do you know that that behaviour is "Wolfish?" Seeing as you have nothing to compare it to save your own perceptions, Anger is a human emotion, It has no place in the natural world.

TheBlueWolfW.W.
04-25-2006, 11:53 AM
Right, I agree Dl. BUt I guess it is just my percpetive of it. The anger I get sometimes just seems to be coming from wolf-me. But it isn't like human anger. I usually only get it at subtle times, like when someone won't stop pestering me or something like that. I rarely ever go crazy on someone as wolf.

ThrasherCub
04-25-2006, 01:09 PM
Anger is a human emotion, It has no place in the natural world.
Some animals have shown signs of anger, and many debate that this is actual anger and not just an empty instinct.

Just thought I'd toss that into the mix. Carry on.

StarHowler
04-25-2006, 05:21 PM
Some animals have shown signs of anger, and many debate that this is actual anger and not just an empty instinct.

Just thought I'd toss that into the mix. Carry on.


Living on a farm most of my life, I beleive I can say animals have anger. Although they dont tend to linger on it as long as humans do. Instead of true anger I think its more like an annoyance. The cow gets tired of you trying to force them somewhere they dont wanna go. The dog nips at the other because it the other tries to take its food or is out of the pecking order.

Its breif. The reaction is immediate and then its over. So a quick snap at someone for something. Possibly wolf induced. But because we have never truely been in the mind of an animal with out human thaught tainting it (or at least I cant claim to have been) its impossible to say

DarkWolf
04-25-2006, 07:31 PM
human-anger is purely human. NO growling or any of that stuff. Just ordinary humanThat makes you one on the less-populated side of the "growling" fence. Many average, typical, non-therian people growl and "purr" and bark and roar in anger. Yes, they roar in anger. Often it's a roar with words but the principle is the same. Remember the act of the growls and roars of any creature is meaningless when viewed from such a "I sometimes growl" perspective. What you have to look at is WHY. Why does would an animal make that particular sound?

If you listen not every growl or every roar is the same. This is because it is a message - a format of language where words are empty syllables. Think about it - why can a wordless song stir emotions or paint pictures in your mind? Sound has applied meaning - as in you think of a sound to go with what you want to express and make it and eventually that sound is spread and applied a direct meaning like what happens with words.

So, let's look at the angry roar. The facial expressions are usually sharpened when roaring, you frown, it is a powerful loud sound, it is not pleasant sound, it expresses anger and typically induces fear. In the animal word a similar roar is used to more effectively "persuade" territorial invaders to leave. In humans it's lost that expressive impact so the message is "I'm angry". It also feels good - primal instinct and whatever. Now some people may roar with words to argue which means they are angrily trying to instil a message in you and the message is what their saying but the loudness of their voice makes you take a mental step back and really process what's being said. A wordless roar is basically "I'm angry - be afraid" or "I'm angry so go away".

The sounds we make are just messages for which we have no words for. Now, we can also growl "under our breaths" but that's just our way of expressive what we need to but not wanting anyone to hear. Depending on the way you growl the message becomes "I'm annoyed" or "I hate you" etc.

See what I'm getting at? These sounds that you say are your inner wolf are really just common human nature. The growls and grunts are simply the wordless language of nature. Every animal has it - and it's what our speech developed from. The only reason why we growl is just because those simple short messages can't be induced so automatically as a response to the trigger by words; so we revert back to the language that can be used in such a manner. In the same reason why you raise your voice when upset or why you sob when crying or why you laugh etc.

It's all the principles of the unspoken language that's part of every animal. Our having developed a subset of that language involving strings of small sounds - words - doesn't mean anything. Our words are an extension of those growls. So if your "human side" is completely without growls and snarls then it's one the very few.

But it isn't like human anger.And what, precisely, is "human anger" and would it be any different than a wolf's anger? Sorry but you're not making sense. Studies have shown that animals get angry and they experience all the same somatic symptoms of that anger as we do (increased heart-rate, a change in the balance of neurotransmitters, etc). The only difference is that animals in the wild will experience it less but if they do experience it then it's the same as ours. Now, they may express it differently but then that's not a result of them being a different animal; they're just angry for a different reason and so in being angry for a differing reason they're express that anger as they see fit to the reason - just like we do.

Anger plays no part in therianthropy in any way. Every animal has the potential for anger, animals in the wild are less likely to be angry, but the anger felt is the same for all animals however it is expressed. Also, don't confuse actions like snarling and growling etc from a wild animals to be anger - it's very unlikely to be. They snarl etc because you're food, you're a threat, you're on it's territory or you're in the proximity of it's mate/spawn or any combination of these. It's just trying to intimidate you enough to run (food, chase) or casually leave (territory, protecting mate/spawn).

Anger has nothing to do with therianthropy. From what I've read on therianthropy there's very little it actually "shows" in the way of characteristics or whatever. It's purely a spiritual awareness of self rather than an expression of a "therian side" through traits. It may play a part on religious or even mundane decisions and influences your life that way but that has nothing to do with some emotional/physical trait. It's not some "side" of you - it IS you through-and-through.

Thoughtless
04-26-2006, 06:14 AM
See what I'm getting at? These sounds that you say are your inner wolf are really just common human nature. The growls and grunts are simply the wordless language of nature. Every animal has it - and it's what our speech developed from. The only reason why we growl is just because those simple short messages can't be induced so automatically as a response to the trigger by words; so we revert back to the language that can be used in such a manner. In the same reason why you raise your voice when upset or why you sob when crying or why you laugh etc.

Yes, every animal growls and stuff. But we humans are discouraged from that behavior all the time. We get drilled in using as little animal messaging of mood as possible, since it'd upset others.

So while it doesn't prove anything in any way, I'd imagine it's easier to lapse into that mentality if you're a therian, since the learned rules are more superficial.

Might be way off though.

TheBlueWolfW.W.
04-26-2006, 11:26 AM
Aw...I don't know, DW. But I'm not in the mood for a battle right now. I never tryed to think that my wolf is just human. For me, there is an obvious line between girl and wolf. I can't explain it very well, which is why I fail at talking about it sometimes.

DL Lycan
04-27-2006, 11:55 AM
I don't mean to sound harsh, but why did you bother posting earlier if you say you can't explain it very well? and once again, Well done Darkwolf.

Thoughtless
04-27-2006, 03:27 PM
Sometimes experiences are hard to put into words. I know that one myself. And really, how is anybody going to learn to explain things if they don't try?

TheBlueWolfW.W.
04-28-2006, 11:24 AM
Thoughtless has a point. DL Lycan, I posted because I thought I could get it out right, but apparantly I still can't succeed at that. Thanks for asking though. :)