chupey

[silenceowl]

Legends of bloodsucking creatures have been present in many cultures throughout history. One vampire-like creature that has been gaining a considerable amount of notoriety is the Chupacabra. The literal translation for the Spanish word "chupacabra" is "goat sucker." This creature has been a constant conundrum to cryptozoologists (scientists who study animals that may or may not be real) in North and South America for over 50 years. With sightings in various regions of Puerto Rico, Brazil, Chile, Mexico and the United States, this is one well-traveled beast. An anomaly since the early 1950s, the Chupacabra was at its height of notoriety in the 1990s -- even surpassing such longtime favorites as Nessy (the Loch Ness monster) and Bigfoot

What are your thoughts on the chupacabra?

[lobo_solitario]

The chupacabra has been seen somtines crawling along power cables that are coming out of a huge government building in the hills of puerto rico. This leads some to think that like everything else it is being cover up by the government.http://werewolf.com/vb/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

[McKitty]

Of course it's a cover up by the government, if you've watched "The X-Files" you'd understand that.

But now to a mod mode: This belongs in Lore & Mythology, not up here in Misc.

[silenceowl]

I completely respect your power as a mod mckitty,
but i just always thought of lore and mythology as a forum for old legends, and well..... lore and mythology.
I felt that the chupey would be better in a different forum.
I was going to put it here but i thought someone would just move it.
Maybe chriz should put in a cryptozoology forum?
but then maybe he should not.:shrug:

[LV426]

I completely respect your power as a mod mckitty,
but i just always thought of lore and mythology as a forum for old legends, and well..... lore and mythology.
I felt that the chupey would be better in a different forum.
I was going to put it here but i thought someone would just move it.
Maybe chriz should put in a cryptozoology forum?
but then maybe he should not.:shrug:
Lore and myth covers a little bit of everything especially if you aren't sure it is real.

[DarkWolf]

The terms lore and mythology cover stories or legends which are unknown: nobody knows if they are/were true, but they are/were widely or greatly known and thusly have a sense of contraversy about them.

[Wolffy13]

I have reached the opinion that I think chupacabra is the result of man playing God. Costa Rica (I think it's Costa Rica or Puerto Rico, the more rural of the two if I remember right, anyways), one of the areas he has been spotted in has a lot of animal testing facilities and you know how mankind has been toying around with genetics and cloning and all that lately :rolleyes: . Chupacabra and Mothman are the only ones I have a opinion on (I think Mothman is some sort of omen). It would be interesting to actually catch a chupacabra though.

[GarouX]

Damn that's old.

[LV426]

I have a few pictures collected and some info on the chupacabra so if you want to see them just click HERE (http://www.darksites.com/souls/goth/heartshowl/Chupacabra.html) I would normally not direct you to my mess but it is just too much info to paste here and there are too many pictures to mess with. Anyway Enjoy!

[silenceowl]

I have a few pictures collected and some info on the chupacabra so if you want to see them just click HERE (http://www.darksites.com/souls/goth/heartshowl/Chupacabra.html) I would normally not direct you to my mess but it is just too much info to paste here and there are too many pictures to mess with. Anyway Enjoy!


I went to your site and saw someting called the "owlman"
but every time i click it nothing happens.
i have never heard of this owlman, but as you may imagine i am very interested.
what is it, and where may i find info on it.
i would greatly appreciate any info.

[LV426]

I went to your site and saw someting called the "owlman"
but every time i click it nothing happens.
i have never heard of this owlman, but as you may imagine i am very interested.
what is it, and where may i find info on it.
i would greatly appreciate any info.
Yeah sorry bout that Silence, Owlman isn't finished yet but I do have the info collected, let me consolidate it and I will post it for you.

[somuchforsanity]

I live in Puerto Rico. The Chupacabra has become more or less national folklore already, so if anyone has any questions about it, I'd be happy to answer them =)

[LV426]

I live in Puerto Rico. The Chupacabra has become more or less national folklore already, so if anyone has any questions about it, I'd be happy to answer them =)
Is there any info that you can add? Maybe we left something out? Or have you personally had any interaction with the beast?

[somuchforsanity]

Lol, I WISH I would have had personal contact... Anyways, knowing how sensasionalist most of the poeple in this island are, I think most of the accounts of Chupacabra attacks are fake. I definetely believe there is some creature that commited those attacks, but I also believe that many of the subsequent attacks where hoaxes.

On another note, maybe 3-4 years ago, when the Chupacabra attacks where most numerous, one of our majors organized a national hunting party to seek out the beast. He led the party himself. Supposedly, they chased it down to a cavern, but it was never actually found.

If anything, I believe the Chupey is either some sort of alien creature, probably a less-advanced one, or some sort of genetic experiment gone wrong. Puerto Rico is a hot-spot for alien sightings, especially in El Yunque, which is our second largest peak. Also, as someone else mentioned before, there are many animal testing facilities in the inner island, so god knows what kind of mutation someone might have set loose.

Oh I almost forgot, there have also been reports of a large winged creature attacking dogs. Some believe it is the Chupacabra, some dont.

[LV426]

If anything, I believe the Chupey is either some sort of alien creature, probably a less-advanced one, or some sort of genetic experiment gone wrong. Puerto Rico is a hot-spot for alien sightings, especially in El Yunque, which is our second largest peak. Also, as someone else mentioned before, there are many animal testing facilities in the inner island, so god knows what kind of mutation someone might have set loose.

Oh I almost forgot, there have also been reports of a large winged creature attacking dogs. Some believe it is the Chupacabra, some dont.

So our planet is simply a dumping ground for alien genetic rejects. Isn't that a Disney movie?

[somuchforsanity]

Hmm, could be. There's truth behind everything ya' know? :D

[Xzengrim]

Dang; Mexican people love the chupacabra!! I don't know why. They don't seem to care in particular about cryptozoological folklore... but man they love that chupacabra!

I think it's partly cause of what WolfBlood was saying about it being national folklore. They love it because it's part of their country.

Goat-sucking just didn't strike me as being that cool.

[somuchforsanity]

Ahem, Im puertorrican, not mexican. Look up ^^^ :D

[spawnofFenrir]

Hey ive heard of that chupa before and the place matches I think ive also seen a film about it as well cant remember the name though but theres one explanation you left out what if its left over from the dinos or something like that the croc is so why not the chupey

[Xzengrim]

Wolfblood, I know you're Puerto Rican. But where I live, there's a lot of Mexican people. And THEY love the chupacabra.

But you love him as well, no?

[LV426]

No racism guys!

However I have noticed that the chupacabra is a very hispanic oriented creature which can be very interesting. From Mexico, Puerto Rico, Haiti, and Cuba, the legend of the chupacabra has reigned. I find it fascinating that the legends and folklore traveled in the manner that it did.

[Totah Sam]

Dang; Mexican people love the chupacabra!! I don't know why. They don't seem to care in particular about cryptozoological folklore... but man they love that chupacabra!

I think it's partly cause of what WolfBlood was saying about it being national folklore. They love it because it's part of their country.

Goat-sucking just didn't strike me as being that cool.

El Chupacabras originated in Puerto Rico. The mania didn't hit Mexico until much later.

[LV426]

El Chupacabras originated in Puerto Rico. The mania didn't hit Mexico until much later.

Actually there are no definite origins, some say Puerto Rico and others say South America and Mexico.

[Totah Sam]

Actually there are no definite origins, some say Puerto Rico and others say South America and Mexico.

the "experts" {and I use the term loosely} have stated that it actually did originate in Puerto Rico. I have talked to many native Puerto Ricans who have known about El Chupacabras since the early 70's. It's a Puerto Rican original. :)

[Totah Sam]

El Chupacabras was known as El Peludo in Mexico. A local legend that slowly blended into the goat sucker when the craze came over from Puerto Rico.

[LV426]

On the other hand there are researchers of legends which have placed the origin of the chupacabra folklore as being in South America.

[LV426]

Hairs From Mystery
Chile Creature Recovered
Monster 10 cm Long Hairs Found Thick, Curled Hairs On Microscope
From Scott Corrales
Institute Of Spanish Ufology
2-6-4


The discovery of a fistful of hairs measuring 10 centimeters long -- hard, ringleted, black on the ends and white toward the center--represent the first biological evidence of the Buin Monster. According to paranormal researchers on the trail of "Animal X", this would be its pubic hair.

Juan Berrios, the driver who ran into the beast in the lonely Santa Filomena alley on January 5, and who was unable to return to work due to the shock of the encounter, showed the evidence exclusively to La Cuarta.

The evidence consists of a handful of hair that became ensnared on the windshield wipers of the Buin-Maipo microbus. The driver only became aware of them after reaching the Las Vertientes terminal in Viluco. The mane hair was stuck on the rubber squeegee when the creature leaped from one side of the road to another, being slightly impaced by the bus driven by Berrios.

"It was an animal I'd never seen before. It's tall, well over a meter and a half, standing at least 1.80, I would say. And it's eyes weren't red--they were black," he recalled vehemently, claiming that he had 20 seconds in which to look at it in detail.

Berrios said that prior to the monster's appearance, an enormous tree limb fell to the side of the road. Seconds laer, the beast jumped in front of the microbus, barely clearing the windshield.

"When I saw that something crossed my path I hit the brakes. The animal was on the right side of my vehicle. It's muzzle was longer than a wolf's, it had a small hump on the back of its neck and had a creature in its maw. It looked at me, crouched into a fetal position and jumped, vanishing instantly," said Berrios yesterday. He returned to work only Monday and he is still unsure if he will ever go out so early again.

Upon checking his vehicle at the terminal, he noticed the hairs and kept them jealously before showing them to anyone due to the mysterious presence last weekend of a pair of foreigners who, equipped with camcorders and still cameras, photographed the site into the wee hours of the morning. "I wanted to speak with La Cuarta first so they could see the evidence. I think they sould be analyzed by experts," added the driver, who has still not fully recovered from the shock.

Juan Espinoza, another driver of the bus line, claimed that the foreginers were probably "gringos" -- seemingly Americans--who arrived in a Jeep to determine the place where the event occurred.

"They were there until 6 in the morning. They came around, took some photos, but didn't ask any questions," said Espinoza, who was startled by their high-tech gear.

Alberto Urquiza of the GEO Group considered that the find of great significance to the scientific world, since in the event that the hairs do belong to an unknown animal, the breach separating mystery, fantasy and reality would be considerably narrowed.

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Translation (C) 2004. Scott Corrales, Institute of Hispanic Ufology (IHU). Special thanks to Liliana Núñez.


Chile - Chupacabras May
Be Living In Abandoned Mines
From Scott Corrales
Institute Of Spanish Ufology
2-6-4

By Héctor Cossio La Cuarta (Santiago de Chile) January 30, 2004

At Cerro Cullipeumo, on the borders of the communities of Las Vertientes in Buin and Angostura in Paine, some abandoned gold mines from the 1950 could prove to be the lair of the "Viluco Monster", a singular beast with a kangaroo-shaped body and a wolf's muzzle that terrorizes local farmers and has a remarkable resemblance with the legendary Chupacabras, according to researchers from the GEO Group.

"El Dinamita" and "El Fena", assistants at the Buin-Maipo Bus Line, whose two drivers came across the creature in the lonely Santa Filomena alley, told La Cuarta that they have been hearing stories from the old-timers about a sinister beast lurking in the forgotten gold mines.

"As soon as we're ready, we'll take a look. The groundskeepers, some old men who've worked here all their lives, always say that strange stuff goes on in that mountain...they even say that those who poke their noses in too deep never come back," said "El Dinamita", who was itching to venture into the abandoned mines.

Aníbal Montes, known as "El Viejo Choclero", confirmed through stories told by Don Ramón, eldest of the group, that mystery has always surrounded Cerro Cullipeumo. "Shadows can be seen running uphill, vanishing into the mine and disappearing. But this is nothing new. It's been going on for many years."

Cristián Opazo, a broadcaster with municipal radio station El Nuevo Buinense, recalls that 3 yeas ago he had to look at a heap of dead rabbits, slain by an unknown animal in the Isla de Maipo sector. "They had been sucked out . There were no signs of violence except for a hole, like that of a tooth [sic], on the right side of the neck," he noted.

As from that event, which occured in 2000--a year that coincides with the first Chupacabras case reported in Calama--there was a flurry of reports, all of them hinting at abnormal evidence.

"Last year [the victims] were the hens at the Felicitas Berkhart smallhold and ducks over at Las Palomas," said residents of Buin.

"El año pasado fueron las gallinas de la parcela de Felicitas Berkhart y los patos en Las Palomas", contaron en la muni de Buin.

Alberto Urquijo--parapsychologist, vampire-hunter, ufologist and leader of the GEO Group, has pursued the traces of this mysterious unclassified animal, known as Chupacabras, throughout Chile. He reports that earliest literature regarding the creature dates back to the late 18th century and its manifestations ahve been most recurrent since 2000. "Out of all of the cases we've looked into, 40% can be ascribed to known animals, but the remaining 60 per cent cannot. We figure that in three years at least 5500 animals have died in mysterious circumstances," said the researcher.

For GEO, the Chupacabras isn't an animal but a species whose main characteristic is being photophobic and lacking predators.


Translation (C) 2004. Scott Corrales, Institute of Hispanic Ufology (IHU). Special thanks to Liliana Núñez.