Astral projection

[GothicRogue]

A lot of people believe that astral is just a state of dream- true but its much more than that.
How many of you can astral project, or have attempted to? Do you know how to "shift" astrally? Can you change your physical appearance in astral?
Remember this body is a shell, your astral can take on a totally different look.

[GothicRogue]

I have had 3 people on here want to talk to me based on pure energy they got from my picture and my name. Anything that is mine I make sure has claim to me. Anyone that searches for me in astral can find me if they know my energy, but I promise you if I dont want to be found or bothered you will not find me, I wont let you. I am constently making trips to the astral plains. Its where I can make my dreams reality and express my self in different forums that this reality holds a boundry to.

[DarkWolf]

Umm.. Why is this is Religion? Shouldn't it be in Spirituality?

Anyway I've said all the theories before based on parapsychology (study of the supernatural that relates to the mind or person) in the numerous other Astral related threads.

[GothicRogue]

I wasnt sure what to put it under :(

[DarkWolf]

I wasnt sure what to put it under :(
It is somewhat difficult. Possibilities are Spirituality and Science, Dreams and possibily even Lore & Mythology. It depends mostly on how you word the subject and what area to take it to. With some careful wording you could even link it to Therianthropy.

Astral Projection is one of those hard to categorize subjects of parapsychology that could be taken in almost any direction.

[DoubleStar3]

I astral all the time. It's like Scarlet says. It's a place where dreams can become a relaity.. at least for a little bit.

[Xzengrim]

I don't think that there's an astral plane, mostly because I've never seen it and the science backing it up is pretty shaky. But if there IS an astral plane, I'd greatly love to see it. Someone do me a favor and try to reach me through it, would you?

[MoonHowler72]

The easiest way to asteral travle is just wait till the point were your about to sleep, but dont just lay there and try to feel your body rise, its remerkebly easy, yet the second you dought it, it wont work, and believe in it. Dont think of much just consintrate on rising and the next thing you know u are floating around in ur room. PS dont think of something that frightens u or makes u insecure, u will be thrown into a nightmare. NOT FUN :mad:

[Wraywolf]

What is with that avatar? Everyone is stealing it.

I don't want to reach the astral plain. It sounds to me like escapism. I already have my videogames, my stories, and my books. I think I avoid reality enough as it is. If I were to reach a plain fueled by wishful thinking and desire, I fear I’d start obsessing over it.

You can have your astral realm, sounds unhealthy to me.

[Xzengrim]

I'd love to do some astral projection tests, to see if it's true or not. But to do that you would need several trustworthy people who were adept astral travellers, plus Grim.

I've dreampt before that others have appeared to me and taught me to shift, and I have dreampt of teaching others to shift, now that I am full grown. It makes me wonder if I imagined the whole thing, or if other people, far away, have seen me before.

[Kishi-Garou]

I'd love to do some astral projection tests, to see if it's true or not. But to do that you would need several trustworthy people who were adept astral travellers, plus Grim.

I've dreampt before that others have appeared to me and taught me to shift, and I have dreampt of teaching others to shift, now that I am full grown. It makes me wonder if I imagined the whole thing, or if other people, far away, have seen me before.

Heya Xzen buddy, seeing as its Halloween tonight, and the energies are high, you can try yourself. Just tell yourself that in your sleep, you will go to your home. Its the simplest way.

Anyways, try reading up on the Edgar Cayce readings, he used astral travel as a method of searching for the past, and it was quite interesting.

See ya later.

[MexicanJewLizard]

I can't astral project on purpose, only by accident. :( I have lucid dreams, and THEN I can but it's really hard. I have to be pretty hyped up anyways. If I'm tired I just crash and forget about everything. Oopz... I dunno, it's the ADD I think. :p

[GothicRogue]

I have found whenever I think about it, I cant do it. As soon as I completely relax I can but if I think about it, or get real excited..pff. Joe and I astal all the time so maybe he can help

[FalseFace]

i been trying to project lately w/o much success but i did have a dream about it yesterday that i thought i'd post.

i was trying to project and there was a woman who was tring to help me. every time i got into the right state of mind though someone would come in the room and bother me. then i woke up and decided i'd try to project then while i was still in bed but every time i started to go into that body asleep mind awake state. somone would do something loud or come in my room. so nothing happened. i wonder if i'll ever be able to do it. maybe the woman i my dream was my spirit guide or something. i remember she had a peice of paper with words on it. she told me the first word on the paper was peanut but i looked at it and said it wasn't. it didn't look like peanut. the more i read the paper though and the more she said it was peanut the more i began to recognize that it was peanut. the word didn't change but i began to recognize it as peanut. there were also other words on the paper but i can't remember them. maybe she was trying to tell me i have to change my perception about something if i'm every going to really astral project. also every time i was interupted she calmed me down and made me try again. it was really frustrating. maybe she was telling me i have to keep trying. i just realized something, this is one of the very few dreams i've had in first person. almost all my dreams and memories are in third person. actually i can't think of a memory that's not and only 2-3 dreams that aren't.

well that's it. i just copy/pasted it from somewhere else.

[Nivek]

I can't astral project on purpose, only by accident. :(
My situation is similar, I can only project when I am called to do such out of anothers need. Though, I do believe that my astral body has an extended presence, meaning that is alwas being projected to the area surrounding me. Because of this I am able to sence others when they approach. Some may say that I am confusing AP with Ki/chi but I believe them to be the same thing, just used differently at times.

[MidnightPsi]

FalseFace I'm just curious, does peanut mean something special to you?

Do you have to be a natural at what Nivek does in sensing other's presence, or can you learn?

[FalseFace]

i can't think of peanut meaning anything to me, but i was thinking about it today and i think 2 of the other words on the list were bean and pancake....maybe i've got the whole thing wrong and it's just a shopping list :D

i also remember that the woman was in a wheel chair and one of the people that interrupted me was a friend and i had a hard time making him leave.

[MidnightPsi]

you could buy a dream dictionary if you believe that it will help you understand your dreams better
you can look up specific objects in your dream and see what they suposedly mean (but it could mean something else if the object means something special to you)
I have one but for some reason I hardly ever remeber what I dream about

[lordragoon]

If you really want to do a dream analysis on yourself, just pick what seems to be the most important image, take a peice of paper, then write down the first few verbs or nouns - other than the images - that come to mind.
Take whatever emotional impact was behind the dream (fear, completion, trial, etc.) and apply it to the actions. Not a great system, but it works pretty well. A little Jungian, but still...

I have one question about astral projection. Are astral projections like normal senses? Do they follow a set timescale and the laws of physics, or, do they jump around and seem symbolic, or both?

[GhostBat]

Astral projection is a wonderful feeling. I've been interested in it for a very long time, and had to practice continually before I was able to manage it. All the hard work pays off though. It allows for the "spirit" to escape from the confining body, which is obviously very therapeutic. My astral body takes the shape of a bat, which I play around with each time. The one thing I have noticed is that because I am still attached to my physical body, if I doubt that I am able to do something in my astral body, I can't. But if I have no doubts, I can do it easily. I suggest everyone should at least try it :)

[Lost Tranquility]

hey could anybody help me with astral projection?? or give any advice with it..i only seem to beable to shift over when im intently lost in thought but it takes alot of focus..any advice?? expecially with meeting people there?

[DarkWolf]

Nivek: Ki is sensing the environment and emotional energies around it to sense the location of others. Chi is inner strength or willpower of oneself.

Anyway, to repeat myself:

The most common astral theory in parapsychology is that the astral plane is a 4th dimensional realm of energy overlaying our physical 3rd dimensional one. We have an astral self, an energy that can sometimes be seen as auras and the like, and this energy, along with the concious mind, can be projected or "imprinted" into the energies of the astral plane. The astral plane is not bound by the laws of physics that apply to our physical world. In the astral plane a projection can manipulate at will all energies surrounding them and can also utilise the 4th dimensional properties to instantaneously transport themselves from one area of the plane to the other. Time is a factor of the plane that, like all forces and energy, can be manipulated to some extent. Energy, by physical laws, is not necessarily limited to distant and thusly as projected energy one can travel any distance or manipulate energy from any distance.

Because dreams, flowing through the concious mind and seeping through the new ability to alter the surrounding energies of the plane, can be lucid enough to create a reaction in the projector the mind on the plane can essentially alter the energies to make the dream real on that plane. Due to this, the theory of astrally projecting to this 4th dimensional plane is hindered by the fact that a lucid dream can achieve the same level of realism in the mind of the projector, with or without the projection to the astral plane. There is little to distinguish whether the lucid dream was a lucid dream, or an actual astral projection.

In other words stop thinking every lucid dream is an astral projection: or I'd be an expert by now having had a lucid dream almost every night of my life since the age of 4 (14 years ago).

Make of this what you will, but it is not my theory: I merely agree with it.

[Beneha'Elohim]

The most common astral theory in parapsychology is that the astral plane is a 4th dimensional realm of energy overlaying our physical 3rd dimensional one. We have an astral self, an energy that can sometimes be seen as auras and the like, and this energy, along with the concious mind, can be projected or "imprinted" into the energies of the astral plane. The astral plane is not bound by the laws of physics that apply to our physical world. In the astral plane a projection can manipulate at will all energies surrounding them and can also utilise the 4th dimensional properties to instantaneously transport themselves from one area of the plane to the other. Time is a factor of the plane that, like all forces and energy, can be manipulated to some extent. Energy, by physical laws, is not necessarily limited to distant and thusly as projected energy one can travel any distance or manipulate energy from any distance.

Well said, Dark Wolf. A noted secular French mathmetician once mentioned his theory that UFO activity is multi-dimensional, a "glimpse of the demonic realm", were his exact words,(and he's not a christian, strangely enough!)

[tsugua]

yeha ive tried this astral projection before, i read things from crystallinks and a few other sites, but i cant decide whether there is an astral plane or not. when i get really deep into meditation and i hear weird noises that scare me (once i even heard a scream)

[DarkWolf]

Well said, Dark Wolf.

Thank you. :)

[Lost Tranquility]

heh, i tried a few nights back, and i relaxed myself so much, i ended up falling asleep, but i didn't dream anything. I started around 8. and woke up for school the nxt day around 5, and it was like i didnt even fall asleep at all, i dozed and came back and wasn't tired or anything. it was really weird but my day was good after that, lol.