Conclusive proof that dragons exist!

[master_druid]

Extracted from "Dragon's World"

You see, Dragons have been in myths and legends all around the world, at times where these races could not have possibly communicated with each other. So, you can belive that they were all just coincidencally making it up at the same time, all around the world, but if you do, I pity you.

[DarkWolf]

It's not proof. Please consult your dictionary.

[Luna D'argento]

[FONT=Georgia]I have to agree with DarkWolf, there is no proof in your statement. Last I heard about real dragons was that somewhere in Romania they may have found something leading to the proof. Or something like that, I can't remember.

[Morgrim]

Compare the western wyrm, the oriental lung and the americian amphisthar (I think that's spell wrong...they were the feathered dragon-like things that served quetzcoatl). They are all called dragons in the modern world, but all look very different to each other and had different personalities.

I think all human cultures were fascinated by the sky and made creatures that existed in it, often with a connection to the gods. Although in european thought, dragons were creatures to be quested against in the name of god.

I don't think that is proof of anything other than some element of psychology. Unfortunetely. :(

[MorganaFang]

Compare the western wyrm, the oriental lung and the americian amphisthar (I think that's spell wrong...they were the feathered dragon-like things that served quetzcoatl). They are all called dragons in the modern world, but all look very different to each other and had different personalities.

I think all human cultures were fascinated by the sky and made creatures that existed in it, often with a connection to the gods. Although in european thought, dragons were creatures to be quested against in the name of god.

I don't think that is proof of anything other than some element of psychology. Unfortunetely. :(

That or some birdy dinosaurs lasted a lot longer than we though they did. Which is possible, since both lizards and birds appear to evolve slower. EMU are dragons, man, EMUUUUs

[Morgrim]

My uncle has a pet emu. It is not a dragon. I'm sure dragons are safer...

[Pickle Tickler]

Old dinosaur bones, and old pretenses led people to believe that a gigantic lizard such as a dragon would exist...maybe a pterodactyl's body overlapped a fourlegged dinosaur...and there's always crocodiles. And Nessie.

[BCvonRayfus]

Maybe Nessie's a dragon :p

[Pickle Tickler]

Or maybe Nessie's a giant squid. Or a dinosaur, left over from a hidden colony that escaped extinction in the deep caves of Loch Ness...

[DL Lycan]

Heres your dragon

http://komodo.procombel.be/images/dragon.jpg

[Morgrim]

Or maybe Nessie's a giant squid. Or a dinosaur, left over from a hidden colony that escaped extinction in the deep caves of Loch Ness...
Psst....Loch Ness was covered in ice during the last ice age. As in, completely frozen with a glacier on top. Any plesiosaurs would have frozen too. Or suffocated. ;)

[Cheater388]

Or maybe Nessie's a giant squid. Or a dinosaur, left over from a hidden colony that escaped extinction in the deep caves of Loch Ness...

...or Nessie is a figment of you imagination.

[Pickle Tickler]

No cheater...YOU are a figment of my imagination! Begone horrible nightmare producing demon!!!!! AHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

:D

[Luna D'argento]

Heres your dragon

http://komodo.procombel.be/images/dragon.jpg

I absolutely have to agree with you.

[Noka_vex_lupus]

People were traveling by boat, things seen or created by one person would spread to and across different continents pretty quickly. Different types of dragons simply come from different people perspectives. Also, I believe it was China, they dug up bones that they thought was proof of dragons, but it turned out to be some giant prehistoric chicken thing. There have been fake baby dragons created. DLycan pointed out the komodo dragons. Also, nobody else is claiming that werewolves exist just because there were a bunch of other were animals across the world like the werepanther, weresnake, etc. If you give "conclusive" proof of something, give much much more than the fact that the world talked about it all at one time.

[Cheater388]

I absolutely have to agree with you.

double that.

No cheater...YOU are a figment of my imagination! Begone horrible nightmare producing demon!!!!! AHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

:D

Oh yeah, and Endros is nuts...

:)

Every country has different veiws on what a dragon looks like, and it was spawned from either their inner minds or from other countries having their own dragon. All countries translate dragon differently, either having a totally different word or an adaptation of the english(?) language just because "dragon" sounded cool. Countries did have comunication with each other; except what is now known as North and South America. They do not have different veiws on what a dragon was because they weree isolated from the european and asian countries for the beggining of civilization. Indians even have their type of dragon here (http://www.blackdrago.com/famous_india.htm).

Now, let's start with the English.

The Lambton Worm, The Linton Worm, The Longwitton Dragon, and all other "Worms" (That was what they were normally called) of Britain were thought to be evil (mainly trying to defend teritory maybe, no harm) and were killed by knites as instructed by kingdoms (or so the legend goes). It looks like Britain didn't want anything carnivourus that was biggere then them, or they would have to survive themselves; that's what being the top of the food chain is all about, you really multiply. In the bible, I think it also said of some dragon that was killed... I haven't read that much into it, still on Laverticus.

http://www.blackdrago.com/famous_england.htm
http://www.mysteriousbritai n.co.uk/legends/dragons.html#
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=english+dragons&meta=
your local bibel (I have the king james edition?)

The Asian dragons were seen as the opposite of the British dragons: they were even bringers of good luck. Japan name: ドラゴン, they often terorize towns and have a shape of a chinese dragon, but that was because they put a british dragon and a chinese dragon together and said "voala!". the chinese have them as part of their calandar, so that is enough evidence to say that they're good. In china, they are written in traditional texts as "龍" and, in symplified, "龙".

other cultures are quite different in their dragon stuff is you just check on google. There might be native dragons (like dragons that the natives of america and the mexicans, portageese, used to know of), but I don't think they're widely known.

PEOPLE HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATING DRAGONS, BUT THERE MIGHT NOT BE ANY DRAGONS.

<pulls out tonge, komoto dragon style>

[Alienated Being]

T'is just an opinion.

[Clockwork_Chaos]

If dragons did indeed exist, then it is only a matter of time before someone finds a skeleton.

But even those can be easily forged these days.

[Vagabond Flow]

Anything vaguely reptilian gets classed as a dragon. That's why they're so 'widespread'.

[Hoplite]

personally i'm :confused: ...saw a program in discovery lately (dragons: a fantasy made real)......there they tried to give facts that dragons might have existed......accordi ng to them, they started their journey with the dinosaurs......went underwater to escape massive extinction.....came back to land again......took refuge in forests and mountains....that's the summery

the problem is that instead of showing a documentary, they showed it like a movie......that's why it was least appealin'

they showed a frozen body of a dragon found in romania (which kinda looked fake), gave theories on how it flew and breathed fire, how it might have survived where lots of dino's died....and many other stuff.....they were not pretty convincing...but still i enjoyed the show :D

[Shield_Wulf]

Now here are my thoughts on Dragons.
Note: I just woke up and it's only 2:30am so if I spell bad, sorry(lay off me).

Dragons are real, but not like what most people think. They do not exsite in the pysical world. They are what are know as Astral beings. The live in what is known as the astral world. It is believed that these beings could some times make themselves seen in the pysual world, which would exsplane why people say them.
I don't have much else to say, but one more thing.
You just have to believe......lol. think about it.

[DarkWolf]

personally i'm :confused: ...saw a program in discovery lately (dragons: a fantasy made real)......there they tried to give facts that dragons might have existed......accordi ng to them, they started their journey with the dinosaurs......went underwater to escape massive extinction.....came back to land again......took refuge in forests and mountains....that's the summery

the problem is that instead of showing a documentary, they showed it like a movie......that's why it was least appealin'

they showed a frozen body of a dragon found in romania (which kinda looked fake), gave theories on how it flew and breathed fire, how it might have survived where lots of dino's died....and many other stuff.....they were not pretty convincing...but still i enjoyed the show :D
Saw it too. It's not a documentary show and complete fabrication. They speculated and that is all they did - they made it up. There's not a single, tiniest, bit of evidence in the show - but then there never was supposed to be any. It was a made-for-entertainment show.

[Hoplite]

Saw it too. It's not a documentary show and complete fabrication. They speculated and that is all they did - they made it up. There's not a single, tiniest, bit of evidence in the show - but then there never was supposed to be any. It was a made-for-entertainment show.



yeah right....but the way they advertised it, i thought it'd be really coooool....waited about a month to watch it....but after i did, i realized i've wasted about two hours of my life :mad:

[SleepingSilently]

yeah right....but the way they advertised it, i thought it'd be really coooool....waited about a month to watch it....but after i did, i realized i've wasted about two hours of my life :mad:


i thought it was kinda cool, at least the computer graphics of the actual dragons but other than that yea it was pretty stupid

[Canisdirus]

I believe that if Dragons don't exist today, they did at one time. Not the fire breathing virgin eating mythological types, but more likely one of the "extinct" variety of dionosaur. Remember, Dinosaur litterly means terrible lizard. It is completely possible that a classical "dragon" existed all the way up to the middle ages. Remember the Selacamp fish that was thought to have become extinct millions of years ago, but was caught live in Madagascar? There are cave drawings which have dinosaurs in them. Where did the cavepeople see these animals....at the local natural history museaum? Just because we cannot verify the existence of something does not mean it isn't real. You all know the fake "Jackalope" that you see in truckstops and whatnot? Well did you know that there really is a horned bunny rabbit? I know, sounds impossible and fake. Well, there is a disease that affects rabbits which causes their skull to have protrusions resembling horns. Now, don't believe for a minute that the ones you see stuffed and on display are real, but true "jackalopes" seem to really exist. Why can't Dragons exist if something as odd as a horned rabbit can?

[qwerty]

in the case of dogs a collie and a boxer skull look much different yet both are dogs. a wyvern looks nohing like an asian but both are dragons:shrug:

[LV426]

personally i'm :confused: ...saw a program in discovery lately (dragons: a fantasy made real)......there they tried to give facts that dragons might have existed......accordi ng to them, they started their journey with the dinosaurs......went underwater to escape massive extinction.....came back to land again......took refuge in forests and mountains....that's the summery

the problem is that instead of showing a documentary, they showed it like a movie......that's why it was least appealin'

they showed a frozen body of a dragon found in romania (which kinda looked fake), gave theories on how it flew and breathed fire, how it might have survived where lots of dino's died....and many other stuff.....they were not pretty convincing...but still i enjoyed the show :D


That was completely fake.

[Rainheart]

I also saw a documentary on dragons on either Discovery or History Channel. They showed what looked like a baby dragon preserved in a solution. It wasn't computer animated, it was solid and real. It said when scientists found it, they were pretty unsettled because they couldn't find any evidence of surgery or any modification to the body. If I can find a picture of it, I'll post it here.

[Cthulhu fhtagn]

Could it not be that the dragons were some kind of legend or myth before humans left africa 10.000 years ago and then carried around the world to all the different cultures?:confused:

[Rainheart]

It is a possibility. But then again, anything is possible in so flexible a topic.

[ThrasherCub]

It is a possibility. But then again, anything is possible in so flexible a topic.

With the possible exception of rational thinking.

[Kaden]

Rational Thinking is a myth.

[Tux]

Mandatory FYIAD post:

But they really DO exist!

That was a joke... Ha ha!

Fat chance. :p

[Rainheart]

With the possible exception of rational thinking.

Exception of rational thought? Possible, yet highly improbable, as keeping one's mind open to different ideas is in itself being rational.

[ThrasherCub]

Exception of rational thought? Possible, yet highly improbable, as keeping one's mind open to different ideas is in itself being rational.

Not sure you're paying enough attention.

Plenty of us here who don't believe in dragons are open to the idea that they exist/ed, so long as it comes with proof or at least a good theory. People who believe in dragons aren't usually to reasons why their theories suck.

[Rainheart]

I will agree with you whole heartedly: no one has found completely solid proof for their existence. But I like to think that perhaps one day, whether it be in my lifetime or not, they will find something.

[John 677808]

They could have existed once, though the only explanation for the lack of fossil evidence, is worldwide coverup. :D

[Rainheart]

They could have existed once, though the only explanation for the lack of fossil evidence, is worldwide coverup. :D

Or maybe they still exist, and they destroy each other's remains when one of them dies... or their bones have a fast decay rate or something... Sorry, brainstorming.

[ThrasherCub]

Or maybe they still exist, and they destroy each other's remains when one of them dies... or their bones have a fast decay rate or something... Sorry, brainstorming.
We'd still likely find evidence of them. There are no sightings which are at all reputable, no captured specimens, no eggs, no carcasses, no foot prints.

[UNODRAGONE]

We'd still likely find evidence of them. There are no sightings which are at all reputable, no captured specimens, no eggs, no carcasses, no foot prints.

I've always wondered when they find dinosaur fossils if they mistake them for dinosaurs when they are really dragons?

[ThrasherCub]

I've always wondered when they find dinosaur fossils if they mistake them for dinosaurs when they are really dragons?
While things like carbon dating aren't at all perfect, we're generally able to tell if something is at all recent.

Ever thought that maybe you guys are looking at it backwards? Maybe they're not dragon bones we're mistaking for dinosaurs but rather that they're dinosaur bones that people long ago explained via dragon myth?

[UNODRAGONE]

While things like carbon dating aren't at all perfect, we're generally able to tell if something is at all recent.

Ever thought that maybe you guys are looking at it backwards? Maybe they're not dragon bones we're mistaking for dinosaurs but rather that they're dinosaur bones that people long ago explained via dragon myth?

That makes an excellent point, there were dinosaurs who flew, as for breathing fire, that could have been put in to spice things up. Good train of thought Thrashercub :)

[Kaden]

Thats what I always thought it was. That people mistook dino bones for dragon bones.

[ThrasherCub]

Thats what I always thought it was. That people mistook dino bones for dragon bones.

If I found a dinosaur bone, I sure as hell would want an explanation. As for the fire-breathing Uno brought up, there's plenty of possible explanations for that. There are instances of extremely flammable plants catching fire from a spark caused by one stone bumping into another (this has been put forth as a possible explanation for the burning bush in told of in the bible) which can start fires out of nowhere. Caves dragons were said to live in could have been vents with which the earth could have released any number of things from below the surface, including flammable gases, smoke and steam, gases which smell like fire, or or simply excess heat. "Shooting stars" could be mistaken for fire being released by something flying.