are werewolves real??

[Faolan]

Damn!! I really wanted to eat the rare pink...

Hey if anyone is going to eat anything from Kaden that's pink it's going to be me buddy...

[MorganaFang]

Hey if anyone is going to eat anything from Kaden that's pink it's going to be me buddy...

HAHA!

Dirty...

I really don't know what else to say.

[Kaden]

You don't have to live with him.

[ThrasherCub]

You don't live with him.
Clearly you don't check your closet often enough.

[Moon_Slave]

wow what to ya
WWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOO OWWWWWWWWWWWW
weird.....

[Kaden]

Clearly you don't check your closet often enough.

I thought I heard a rattling in there... and that explains why Fao's been sneaking food into there.

[Moon_Slave]

I thought I heard a rattling in there... and that explains why Fao's been sneaking food into there.

lets acutally talk about werewolfs ok not your little love parties.

[BlackRosePhantom]

lets acutally talk about werewolfs ok not your little love parties.

What do you mean? It's obvious that they're talking about how West is a werewolf hiding in Kaden's closet that Faolan is tried to keep a secret because Kaden told him that they couldn't keep a 99 year old werewolf as a pet, and that west likes to watch Faolan eat Kaden's sweet fluffy pink marshmallowness. Thrashercub, a hyena muffin, discovered that West was hiding in Kaden's closet and decided to tell her. So see, it does have to do with werewolves!

[Rele WT]

Wow, this is all very interesting and strange.

I think we should move this and the Are Vampires Real? thread to the humor section. :D

[Kaden]

lets acutally talk about werewolfs ok not your little love parties.

And this is coming from Captain Useless Posts.

[Moon_Slave]

And this is coming from Captain Useless Posts.
hahahaha atleast my post have realism to the real world....

[Rele WT]

Maybe I'm just being stupid, but that didn't make any sense...

[wildscottkids]

So, I realize that we are debating the existence of werewolves, but assuming they are real...Do you think they live in a pack format? Would they interact with people in a friendly manner, or are they all jaded to a certain extent? If they are jaded, how do they carry on relationships with humans to create part were-children? I am new to this so please don't reply with the 'you are so stupid' answer. I don't pretend to know much on the subject.

[xxMatolfxx]

Wow, this is all very interesting and strange.

I think we should move this and the Are Vampires Real? thread to the humor section. :D
I must agree all of these topics seem to be jokes anymore. :) Not that is a bad thing or anything.

[Moon_Slave]

finally were talking about werewolves
gezzzzzzzzzzzz.....

[dremincraw]

i think werewolves travel and hunt alone because they are slaves to their curse and i dont think that they would embrace it

[Moon_Slave]

i think werewolves travel and hunt alone because they are slaves to their curse and i dont think that they would embrace it

yuor right on the money.

[Tempest]

hahahaha atleast my post have realism to the real world....

Why are you here? Your posts contribute NOTHING. At least Kaden has things to contribute the majority of the time.

[ThrasherCub]

i think werewolves travel and hunt alone because they are slaves to their curse and i dont think that they would embrace it

I'm going to assume that you're referring to myth. Those which are actually cursed don't generally hunt so much as go nuts and kill people. Ones that actually go hunting are generally thought of as a separate species or the result of sorcery used to allow one to live as a wolf (or some other creature) for a time.

[Moon_Slave]

Why are you here? Your posts contribute NOTHING. At least Kaden has things to contribute the majority of the time.

why do you even talk to me im not mean to you.

[Tempest]

why do you even talk to me im not mean to you.

.... This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. Cause well, this is a place where people come to talk, right? And well you're a person and I'm a person, so is there any reason I shouldn't talk to you? I'm trying to make this simple for you.
I think I'm just going to go back to ignoring you though. Your little interjections are harmless, but they make me annoyed and want to bang my head against the wall.

[Moon_Slave]

.... This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. Cause well, this is a place where people come to talk, right? And well you're a person and I'm a person, so is there any reason I shouldn't talk to you? I'm trying to make this simple for you.
I think I'm just going to go back to ignoring you though. Your little interjections are harmless, but they make me annoyed and want to bang my head against the wall.

well good luck with that have fun:p

[Necro Mortis]

yuor right on the money.

You're 18? How's that working out for ya? Get out much? I thought not. Friends? Not many, I'm guessing. Although maybe you DO meet quite a few other like minded people when you roam the streets on all fours, naked and pretending to be a vicious beast when really you're just the boy that puberty forgot.

[UNODRAGONE]

why do you even talk to me im not mean to you.

I think if you better explain your reasoning behind what you say in your post, you'll find people less likely to be "mean" to you here :)

[Hunter]

Ok so i missed a lot on this thread....so who is the werewolf here now???
Maybe I could be it this week...I'll talk about shifting and eating people, and how I'm 27 years old and live in a pack, and....here has anyone realized that most "true weres" have really bad spelling too...I could even tipe lic dis....
O and weres do exist I am one...GOD why don't u all believe me :( :cry: .................... .....

[xxMatolfxx]

If there is any weres on this site they won't come out and openly admit it. Most will deny till the end. That is why I automatically deny those who come out on forums and act as if they are one.

That and they type horribly and don't understand the point of their sentences.

[Hunter]

I agree. Unless becoming a werewolf lowers you IQ significantly, and I don't see any reason that it would. I don't believe a damn thing these "true weres" claim. If true weres exist, and I do believe they may,they wouldn't be this fucking retarded. Even wolves are smarter than this.

[ThrasherCub]

I know. I almost feel bad yelling at the people claiming to be werewolves since I live with someone who claims to be a werewolf and has since given me all the reason in the world to believe him.

But you don't see me running around trying to convince you that they're all real, do you? Hell, that's someone else - I practice magick and I don't get pissy when someone says they don't believe in magick.

Though I have been tempted to respond to the disbelief in real magicians with, "OF COURSE I EXIST!!!!1!!" Just for s&g, of course. ;)

Question: does anyone here know why tr00 w3r3s will keep asserting that they don't care if we don't believe them? I've never at all understood the point of that, especially when they won't shut up and go away.

[UNODRAGONE]

I know. I almost feel bad yelling at the people claiming to be werewolves since I live with someone who claims to be a werewolf and has since given me all the reason in the world to believe him.

But you don't see me running around trying to convince you that they're all real, do you? Hell, that's someone else - I practice magick and I don't get pissy when someone says they don't believe in magick.

Though I have been tempted to respond to the disbelief in real magicians with, "OF COURSE I EXIST!!!!1!!" Just for s&g, of course. ;)

Question: does anyone here know why tr00 w3r3s will keep asserting that they don't care if we don't believe them? I've never at all understood the point of that, especially when they won't shut up and go away.


I think they expect us to believe them and support them because of the site name and when we don't, and they don't have proof or really are werewolves, they get either pissy about not being able to prove it and yell that out or grow a brain and realize they are not going to convince anyone and it was a waste of time mentioning it :)

[John 677808]

I think it's similar to that film, blood and chocolate. You have various Wolf-Human Packs living in different parts of the World.

They perhaps recharge themselves with some type of energy, which they recieve on the full moon. This enables them to change into Wolves, then through will, during the night or even the day.

[LucimOfTheMoon]

Some of you may have seen my story, and Chapter III shows one way that Werewolves could exist. I haven't given it much thought, and doubt I will, but broken down to the cellular level, changing from human to werewolf is kinda simple...

When a 'wolf wants to change, his brain would send a signal through his body, that, in turn, would cause a mutation in his DNA. Since cells rely on DNA as the blueprint of what they are creating when they are multiplying, the mutated DNA would create "Lupine" cells. The change, physically, would probably start with what appears to be growing muscle, hair growing from the pores, and the skeletal structure rearranging itself. The bones would basically add to what they already have, with the muscles constantly ripping and healing. There's more to it, but I can't remeber right now.

[Tempest]

When a 'wolf wants to change, his brain would send a signal through his body, that, in turn, would cause a mutation in his DNA.

The problem lies right here. HOW would his DNA change? Wouldn't that take massive amounts of energy to change every cell in your entire body, and have cells multiply or randomly disappear? Where would that energy come from? As far as I know, DNA is unalterable by any means other than scientific intervention, so how would the body manage to overcome this?

[Necro Mortis]

As far as I know, DNA is unalterable by any means other than scientific intervention, so how would the body manage to overcome this?

The short answer is... It wouldn't.

The long answer is... Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit woooooooooouuuulllll dddddddddn't

[xxMatolfxx]

That is a long answer. Very, Very short answer.


NO

[Rele WT]

That would be the short answer if the question was a yes/no question and you used a smaller font size... :D

[BlackRosePhantom]

As far as I know, DNA is unalterable by any means other than scientific intervention

Well, that's not entirely true, and please note that I do not mean to be rude or present myself as a know-it-all when I correct you.Vviruses reproduce via using a cell as a medium by penatrating the membrain of the cell and replacing the cell's original DNA with its own (and your imune system works by detecting the trace of the virus and killing all infected cells). Now for werewolves to do this, instead of electric signal going through their body, it would have to be a special hormone that contained a special chemical mixture that would be able to be sucked up by the cell and make temporary changes to the DNA in the nuclous of the cell (like adrenaline boost the amount of energy muscle cells have). That being said, I just want to say that the example I gave of how werewolves might transeform is completely hypothetical. Well, that's my two cents, and Tempest, I'm sorry if you felt offended or annoyed in any way with me correcting you.

[punxnotdead]

I always assumed that if one were to become a werewolf, that a virus (or parasite) altered the DNA, or perhaps being born with the gene.
Although, at this point in time, it seems scientifically impossible to alter one's DNA.
I may be wrong.

[Tempest]

Vviruses reproduce via using a cell as a medium by penatrating the membrain of the cell and replacing the cell's original DNA with its own (and your imune system works by detecting the trace of the virus and killing all infected cells).

Key word. Replacing. Not altering. So...I'm still right. :beerchug:

Anyway, what you said was more believable than Lucim's theory.

[ThrasherCub]

Wouldn't that take massive amounts of energy to change every cell in your entire body, and have cells multiply or randomly disappear?

If the DNA alone changed, nothing would really occur. As old cells created with human DNA died and were replaced with new cells created by the wolf DNA the individual would slowly shift. He'd be almost done by the time he dies of old age since some things are almost never replaced (and somethings simply not replaced ever).

In order to actually shift the entire body it would have to destroy and replace every cell, the process of which would generate sufficient heat to instantly incinerate the werewolf.

[BlackRosePhantom]

If the DNA alone changed, nothing would really occur. As old cells created with human DNA died and were replaced with new cells created by the wolf DNA the individual would slowly shift. He'd be almost done by the time he dies of old age since some things are almost never replaced (and somethings simply not replaced ever).

In order to actually shift the entire body it would have to destroy and replace every cell, the process of which would generate sufficient heat to instantly incinerate the werewolf.

Well, if the replacement went at viral speeds, then it might take a day or so for the transformation to be complete, but at that rate, I doubt all the white blood cells would be excepting of the new cells (anything with different DNA gets killed), thus causing a mass battle, and if the change goes wrong, the person may very well die. Something like that would never stabilize in evolution and would quickly die out if it ever occurred.

[ThrasherCub]

Well, if the replacement went at viral speeds, then it might take a day or so for the transformation to be complete, but at that rate, I doubt all the white blood cells would be excepting of the new cells.

Even if they were accepting, both construction and destruction of cells generates heat, and that would be an unbelievable amount of change in a short span of time.

[Necro Mortis]

Well, if the replacement went at viral speeds, then it might take a day or so for the transformation to be complete, but at that rate, I doubt all the white blood cells would be excepting of the new cells (anything with different DNA gets killed), thus causing a mass battle, and if the change goes wrong, the person may very well die. Something like that would never stabilize in evolution and would quickly die out if it ever occurred.

If you replaced all of somones DNA they would die. The body is designed by the DNA in the genes you are born with.

If the werewolf 'curse' were a virus and attacked your cells your body would not cope with the strain and you would die.

Anyway, surely if you did eventually transform into a wolf you would just be... a wolf? And seing as wolves live about 12 or 15 years in captivity the age you would be when you become a wolf would mean you would die anyway. Also, there would be no way to turn back to a human. Humans are a cancer, not a virus.

[punxnotdead]

I guess the only possible suggestion could be being born with the gene...seems plausible :confused:
I still dunno how they'd shift back and forth though.

[LucimOfTheMoon]

Okay... in response to all of your comments I am going to try to clear up my earlier post (I ran out of time and had to sum things up.).

Even if they were accepting, both construction and destruction of cells generates heat, and that would be an unbelievable amount of change in a short span of time.

I actually thought of that... in my story, when one views a changing Lycan with a... for lack of better terminology: "heatsensor", it appears to have an aura of massive heat. The 'wolf is immune to this, but that's why Lycans don't attack each other while they're morphing. The atacker would get burned.

Well, if the replacement went at viral speeds, then it might take a day or so for the transformation to be complete, but at that rate, I doubt all the white blood cells would be excepting of the new cells (anything with different DNA gets killed), thus causing a mass battle, and if the change goes wrong, the person may very well die. Something like that would never stabilize in evolution and would quickly die out if it ever occurred.

The problem lies right here. HOW would his DNA change? Wouldn't that take massive amounts of energy to change every cell in your entire body, and have cells multiply or randomly disappear? Where would that energy come from? As far as I know, DNA is unalterable by any means other than scientific intervention, so how would the body manage to overcome this?

It actually is a kind of virus. If you wanted to sound uber scientific about it, then you could state that when a Lycan is born, he is born with a gland that basically controls the production of the "Lupine" virus. When this gland is stimulated (like in an adrenaline rush, or when the Lycan grows and gains control over the gland stimulation) the virus is mass-produced causing the replacement of the human DNA with the Lupine DNA. (You could call it a kind of "super-virus" as it affect the cells almost instantly, also causing the cells to reproduce rapidly ) This is a mutation of the human's original DNA, leaving the mind intact. This gland also produces the "antivirus" when a Lycan wishes to change back, or the adrenaline rush subsides. Now, because the virus was procduced by the body, then the White blood cells wouldn't attack this virus, but instead control the virus. In my story, one can eventually control the amount of 'wolf DNA that replaces his own, giving him varied appearances and abilities. This control is given by the white blood cells.

Now, I am only stating this as a theory, and am NOT trying to say they do or don't exist. In fact, I am planning on perfecting this theory and running it by my Bio teacher to get his input/corrections. Any and all comments are once again appreciated, but please don't bash me just for the sake of making me look stupid. I've only posted this to show my opinion which will always vary from others.

[Rele WT]

If they're immune to the heat (not that they really could be...) then why would one get burned if it attacked one that was changing?
Also, if they got turned into one from a bite or what ever then would they generate the gland or what?

[xxMatolfxx]

I don't mean to intrude, but I think he means that you can't become one after birth. You have to be born with it.

Ohh yea lucim.*BASH*

[Tempest]

Again I ask how. How are they immune to the heat?

[xxMatolfxx]

Maybe they are immune to their own heat. Don't know just shooting suggestons out there.

*Pull*

[Goth Girl]

Here's something I've been thinking a little on lately. Afew weeks ago I saw on both the news and on Montel Williams Show that when a woman couldn't get pregnant she had a very iffy procedure done. The docs take the fluids from around another woman's embrio's body and inject it into the other mother's eggs. If it works (and it has), the mother will bare child and that child will have three DNA strands instead of just two.

However, MOST of the children are born fine, but around three or four their body tries to alter itself to be more like their donor's. Most die, but some start changing. Their Hair colour may change to that of the donor's, eye colour, and even organs will try to change if the donor had any health issues.

It was quite an interesting watch. And I'm trying to learn more cause if afew of those kids could handle the change (though yes, all three DNA strands are human), just maybe someone could handle wolf DNA.

I have heard of children that were born of the same procedure but instead of being born with the third strand, around two or three the strand started to grow itself.

Another thing is that when the body is close to death it will do whatever means it can to survive. Someone gets bit by animal, what if the body takes it as a rebirthing and takes on the DNA like those children who were dying in their mother.

OH yeah, forgot to say that when the third DNA strand is injected, the embrios/eggs are living. The reason for the surgery is to get them to live and not be mis-carried.

Anyways, I hope that made some small bit of sense. And I'm sure you can find a link on the Montel Williams Show web page to learn more.

Once again, I'm only toying with those ideas.

[Rele WT]

I don't mean to intrude, but I think he means that you can't become one after birth. You have to be born with it. But he said it was like a virus, it seems like another person could the virus too, even if they weren't born with it. If not from a werewolf biting them, then maybe from getting the werewolf's blood in their blood.

As for what you said Goth Girl, that's a very interesting thing/idea whatever you want to call it, I guess it seems sort of plausible, I'm notsure though, maybe the wolf DNA would have ot be given to them when they were an embryo still, and they wouldn't really be able to turn back and forth, but rather just slowly turn wolf-ish throughout life.

[Tempest]

Maybe they are immune to their own heat. Don't know just shooting suggestons out there.

*Pull*

And AGAIN I ask how. That didn't answer the question.

The problem with GothGirl's theory is that human and wolf DNA are incompatable.

[xxMatolfxx]

I don't know how. Never did.

Imagine the names the kid would get. Come here wolfboy, dogy dogy dogy, look at that kid he is a freak. :)

[Goth Girl]

Yeah. But I've also read something about incompatible DNAs working together on some cable science show. That's the part I'm still toying with. I know taking on a third DNA strand and changing (though yes, not back and forth like most werewolf versions), is possible. Now I'm looking into that Compatibility issue.

Remember, people use to think rats, humans, and pigs were sooo different but now look. We test our products on rats cause they're so much alike and even use some animal by-products inside of us.

I did hear on some science news channel that (even though small and seemingly insignificant), there is a small like between wolf (Timber Wolf more precisely) and human DNA.

Once again though, these are just my thoughts, not my opinions or beliefs.

[punxnotdead]

I always assumed that since humans are completely different species than wolves that, as Tempest stated, the DNA would be incompatable. I doubt that they will find a way to make these two different DNA strands to coincide. But, scientific advances have take a big leap in the last decade...I could be wrong.

[BoxedCat]

I know taking on a third DNA strand ... is possible. Now I'm looking into that Compatibility issue.

Please cite the source you know that from, preferably a peer-reviewed journal. Human DNA is made up of two strands of base pairs that mutually hydrogen-bond with each other based on their exclusive moieties. The outer strands of DNA are specifically hydrophilic, so what exactly would cause these to accept a third RNA strand, where there is a distinct hydrophobic/philic presence in the absence of a catalyzing protein, and what would the mechanism of this be?

Outside of sex with wolves, of course.

[BoxedCat]

I always assumed that since humans are completely different species than wolves that, as Tempest stated, the DNA would be incompatable.

GO TO CHURCH IMMEDIATELY, AND GET YOURSELF CHECKED FOR RABIES

[Tempest]

GO TO CHURCH IMMEDIATELY, AND GET YOURSELF CHECKED FOR RABIES

Get out or change your attitude. This is the second post I've read from you that is uncalled for. You're on your way to being banned.

[BoxedCat]

Get out or change your attitude. This is the second post I've read from you that is uncalled for. You're on your way to being banned.

You do realize that was meant to be somewhat laughable? I'm sorry I didn't follow it up with a smiley face, but figured that blatant snarkiness would be met with something of a "new keyboard required" as opposed to "I'm telling Mom"

If you read my other posts I actually make the attempt to appear my intellectual age:)

[MorganaFang]

If you read my other posts I actually make the attempt to appear my intellectual age:)

I love you for explaining DNA. Thank you Thank you.

[BoxedCat]

I love you for explaining DNA. Thank you Thank you.

I hope you're serious, otherwise you run the risk of being banninated.

[Quaternion]

She was serious.

[BoxedCat]

She was serious.

WOOHOO!!!!! I've been validated!

I can has smarts card now pls?

[Tempest]

You do realize that was meant to be somewhat laughable?

Nope, sarcasm in text was not detected. Probably partly because I'm very tired.

I'm sorry I didn't follow it up with a smiley face, but figured that blatant snarkiness would be met with something of a "new keyboard required" as opposed to "I'm telling Mom"

I'm not telling anyone hun, just letting saying that posts like that that I've seen in the past have eventually resulted to bans (but I also didn't realize your sarcam). The choice of who to ban isn't mine anyway.

If you read my other posts I actually make the attempt to appear my intellectual age:)

Never said you weren't smart. It's pretty apparent.

[BoxedCat]

Nope, sarcasm in text was not detected. Probably partly because I'm very tired.



I'm not telling anyone hun, just letting saying that posts like that that I've seen in the past have eventually resulted to bans. The choice of who to ban isn't mine anyway.



Never said you weren't smart. It's pretty apparent.

Thanks for replying to that....I just figure that if there are those here who can profess their undying admiration and unlimited knowledge of the unproven metaphysical, which has never been proven/determined, I can do my part both intellectually and obnoxiously to show with physical evidence that (a) they're wrong, and (b) they need to consider the facts of the real world first.

[Quaternion]

Thanks for replying to that....I just figure that if there are those here who can profess their undying admiration and unlimited knowledge of the unproven metaphysical, which has never been proven/determined, I can do my part both intellectually and obnoxiously to show with physical evidence that (a) they're wrong, and (b) they need to consider the facts of the real world first.

Good luck with that...

We've been trying for years.

[MorganaFang]

Good luck with that...

We've been trying for years.

The best you'll get from Goth_Girl is she'll say she saw it somewhere but is not sure where but she WILL look for it, and then disappear for long time and if you bring it up again she'll claim to still be searching. Or she'll wiki it.

Werewolfs, as far as science can prove do not exist. Despite cellular similarities to animals and even fruit, that does not make DNA compatible enough for a change.

I'm not a scientist but man oh man I do love my biology TV programs.

[ThrasherCub]

I hope you're serious, otherwise you run the risk of being banninated.

Well-respected mods are all the time being banned.

Your posts show you to be smart, but it's not a very good idea to be rude or have pointless posts, particularly when new. That really does run the risk of banning.

[BlackRosePhantom]

BoxedCat, you seem smart, but I'd watch out before I'd said that one of the better mods, in my opinion, was even close to being banned. Also, try to keep double posting to a minimum. Anyway, I look forward to you becoming an active member on this site, and not just in the mythology section. :)

[xxMatolfxx]

The best you'll get from Goth_Girl is she'll say she saw it somewhere but is not sure where but she WILL look for it, and then disappear for long time and if you bring it up again she'll claim to still be searching. Or she'll wiki it.

Werewolfs, as far as science can prove do not exist. Despite cellular similarities to animals and even fruit, that does not make DNA compatible enough for a change.

I'm not a scientist but man oh man I do love my biology TV programs.
Hey maybe the goth knows the secrets of the world and won't share because of people like you. :)

[Quaternion]

Right...because MorganaFang is somehow keeping Goth_Girl from spreading her infinite wisdom.

[reflectivemoon]

I would say that anything is entirely possible, but the chance of you meeting up with a werewolf is unlikely. If they do exist, they're off somewhere or pretending to be normal people and we don't know about it.

[LucimOfTheMoon]

My only theory as to why they'd be immune to the heat, while others aren't, is that a Lycan can't feel pain during the Change. At least that's what I'm explaining it as in my story.

I still haven't perfected my theory, but I'm in the process of researching the whole cellular reproduction/DNA Mutation bit.

Oh, yea Matolf?*BASH*...:D thanks for getting the joke.

[xxMatolfxx]

Glad I could make you laugh.:)

[Tempest]

My only theory as to why they'd be immune to the heat, while others aren't, is that a Lycan can't feel pain during the Change.

That doesn't explain why they wouldn't burst into flames. Immune to pain does not equal immune to heat.

[MorganaFang]

Hey maybe the goth knows the secrets of the world and won't share because of people like you. :)

I use to wear black, have black hair, talk in poems and practice wicca. Oh and I still listen to goth music. About the only thing I didn't do was call myself one in screen names or shop at hot topic.

Poor goths so persecuted by one of their own.

[xxMatolfxx]

So I guess I am considered goth because I have x's in my name. I have them their because my username was originally to short, so I put x's in them. I think this is the second time that I have explained it.

[MorganaFang]

So I guess I am considered goth because I have x's in my name. I have them their because my username was originally to short, so I put x's in them. I think this is the second time that I have explained it.

Nope, you put x's in your username, that's all that means, and whatever your original intention of course.

[BoxedCat]

I put an x in my name, it helps spell Box. The rest corresponds to the past tense of what would happen if I put a cat in one. After that, who the hell knows what happened to the cat. I, for one, am afraid to look.

[LucimOfTheMoon]

That doesn't explain why they wouldn't burst into flames. Immune to pain does not equal immune to heat.
Yes, but the heat is radiating from them, they themselves don't heat up, the energy (heat) from the rapidly dividing cells gives off heat. So, basicaly, they don't burst into flames, because the heat is relatively low, theres just alot of it.

[reflectivemoon]

I don't think they're immune to pain during the change... that just doesn't make sense. Why would they be? I mean seriously. I have heard some things that say they enjoy the pain, actually.

[MorganaFang]

I don't think they're immune to pain during the change... that just doesn't make sense. Why would they be? I mean seriously. I have heard some things that say they enjoy the pain, actually.

I enjoy pain, but with all things, there are limits. Think about it logically, "the change" would be to a similar point of having a limb cut off. That kind of agitation to the nerves would be extreme enough to cause shock. You're also being hit with several things if "the change" were indeed feasible, like a great deal of heat from whatever magical source is generating enough energy in your cells to change so fast, the breaking of bones and reforming of shape.

[xxMatolfxx]

I must agree. To go through this kind of transformation would be extremely painfull. If you wanted to kill one this would be the perfect time. At this point they are extremely vunerable and tend to hide when going through it. I just couldn't imagine the pain of hair growing and then your genitals receeding. :eek: :mad:

[Tempest]

Yes, but the heat is radiating from them, they themselves don't heat up, the energy (heat) from the rapidly dividing cells gives off heat. So, basicaly, they don't burst into flames, because the heat is relatively low, theres just alot of it.

But the heat is internal also, seeing as there are cells inside of your body too. I just don't see how you wouldn't burst into flames.

[Kaden]

Three words people: Spontanious Werewolf Combustion

[xxMatolfxx]

I think the theory behind combustion is that you gas builds up and somehow your organs cause friction. I wonder if it is worse for weres.:)

[BoxedCat]

I think the theory behind combustion is that you gas builds up and somehow your organs cause friction. I wonder if it is worse for weres.:)

The theory behind combustion is that things burn. Specifically, outgassing hydrocarbons from a solid or liquid, or existing hydrocarbons already in gas phase will react with oxygen, forming carbon dioxide and water in the presence of a source of energy sufficient to overcome the transition states necessary for the reactions.

Since molecules don't exactly contain organs, this argument is invalidated from the beginning. Besides, have you ever blown up from doing some running while needing to put out a fart that would choke a donkey? I know I have, yet I'm still here to fart another day.

[Necro Mortis]

I think the theory behind combustion is that you gas builds up and somehow your organs cause friction. I wonder if it is worse for weres.:)

I'm pretty sure that there's more to it than gas and friction. If that were the case then teenage boys all over the globe would be exploding as we speak.
I didn't intend the pun, it just happened.

[xxMatolfxx]

I need to stop watching southpark.:)

[BlackRosePhantom]

I need to stop watching southpark.:)

No you don't. Don't even think that ever. Never think about that again. South Park is one of the funniest shows ever. It's like a 60-year-running alcoholic saying he/she wants to stop drinking period, crazy for them to do.

[BoxedCat]

I need to stop watching southpark.:)

No, it's a good show, you're safe there. Just balance out their theories with a little PBS sometime. Edumaction means you might have to learn a book once in a while.

I suggest an experiment...just don't fart or poop for about a week. If you're still around to post then you've proven the entire thermodynamic argument invalid, which should provide reason enough to delete the last few pages of posts. Feel free to keep me updated on how it's going.

[xxMatolfxx]

I like family guy though...I hate choosing.:)

I would get serious indegestine if I did that BoxedCat.

[BoxedCat]

I would get serious indigestion if I did that BoxedCat.

Well gee, ya think? Does that lend any more credence to your theory of farts being ignited by the ol' intestines playing the jubbly dance?

You still haven't explained exactly where that theory comes from. I figure, based on your reasoning, that werewolves don't fart or burp. That'll be returned in full, when they come to eat your bloated tummy. Fart, I tell you, FART!

[UNODRAGONE]

Well gee, ya think? Does that lend any more credence to your theory of farts being ignited by the ol' intestines playing the jubbly dance?

You still haven't explained exactly where that theory comes from. I figure, based on your reasoning, that werewolves don't fart or burp. That'll be returned in full, when they come to eat your bloated tummy. Fart, I tell you, FART!

I love were this thread has gone :)

[BoxedCat]

I love were this thread has gone :)

Up Matolf's butt? Don't forget the x's, though.

[UNODRAGONE]

Up Matolf's butt? Don't forget the x's, though.

imposng gas on people :)

[xxMatolfxx]

God...I am just going to leave this one be.:)

[Goth Girl]

Please cite the source you know that from, preferably a peer-reviewed journal. Human DNA is made up of two strands of base pairs that mutually hydrogen-bond with each other based on their exclusive moieties. The outer strands of DNA are specifically hydrophilic, so what exactly would cause these to accept a third RNA strand, where there is a distinct hydrophobic/philic presence in the absence of a catalyzing protein, and what would the mechanism of this be?

Outside of sex with wolves, of course.


Okay, sorry to be gone so long but my desktop pc broke down. And now sine I have to use y high-speed lap top on dial-up at only 28 kbps (or whatever they're called) it's running even slower than normal.

So, I can't get the page I want a link to to load, but, I did get the Home pages link. So for my first link, the one for where I got my info on 3rd DNA strands, here's a link to the home page.

http://www.montelshow.com/

When there you gotta go to Past Shows and find the one entitled :Extreme Babymaking"

If it gives you a choice between Eite for Air or Unedited in studio the studio version would give more nfo. May be awhile before I get back but we ARE getting wireless within the upcoming months. 100 ks. :) I can't wait.

[Fenrerious]

well of course theres no evidence i relaize that but say they did exist do u think they might be hiding becuase of what happened back in the like 19th or what ever centurys they were in . maybe there afraid that they will try to hurt them like in all the books you now like blood and chocolate the best book ever about werewolves well thats not the point the point is in that book its like the time period now the girl werewolf viv. told the boys she loved alot and was goin out with that she was a werewolf and he shot a werewolf named ralf and her making here be stuck in the middle of transformation but just say thats why theres no evidence or there not showing them selves wats ur opinion on that??? :confused:

Your right about the wa y we feel about getting treated. We are scared. I am on the run now from some hunters. They know that I'm a wedrewolf and they hate me for that. But I have great control over my urges. I would never hurt a human. Yet my kind fear the rest of humanity. I pity man, for they fear that which is different and do not wish to try to make a compimise.

[Fenrerious]

imposng gas on people :)

You hbumans are stupid as a vampire. Who cares if you can light a fart on fire. You humans are weak and fucked u7p. Wake up and get the fuck out of your homes. Better yet, let me bite you a couple of times.

[Tempest]

Your right about the wa y we feel about getting treated. We are scared. I am on the run now from some hunters. They know that I'm a wedrewolf and they hate me for that. But I have great control over my urges. I would never hurt a human. Yet my kind fear the rest of humanity. I pity man, for they fear that which is different and do not wish to try to make a compimise.

*yawn* Can't you tr00 w3r3s come up with a different story? I mean, at least Jman had the one arm thing going for him. But this...this is so...DULL. 0/10 for lack of creativity.

Who cares if you can light a fart on fire.

Profound words from a profound man. :rolleyes:

Well at least you can spell, though you have a few grammatical errors and a few weird typos. Maybe cause you're typing with big paws? Eh, I'd only give you a 1/10 total, extra point for spelling things correctly.

PS. 1/10 is still an epic fail.

[greggchamberlain]

feh on werewolves!

thanks to Frank and Gordon and their Bell commercial stardom, were-beavers are now the UltraCool creatures!

:cool: :D

[ThrasherCub]

They know that I'm a wedrewolf and they hate me for that.

I love wedrewolves. :)

[BlackRosePhantom]

Your right about the wa y we feel about getting treated. We are scared. I am on the run now from some hunters. They know that I'm a wedrewolf and they hate me for that. But I have great control over my urges. I would never hurt a human. Yet my kind fear the rest of humanity. I pity man, for they fear that which is different and do not wish to try to make a compimise.

You hbumans are stupid as a vampire. Who cares if you can light a fart on fire. You humans are weak and fucked u7p. Wake up and get the fuck out of your homes. Better yet, let me bite you a couple of times.

OK, time to list the problems here:

1) It's called spell check; it helps when you make typos.

2) Slow down when you're typing. This is no race to get your input heard before the topic shifts, things on discussion boards tend to go slower than on IM or chat.

3) there's a multi-quote at the bottom of people's post so you can quote more than one at a time.

4) it called an edit button at the bottom of your post so you can add in things that you forgot.

5)read this thread at least somewhat through before you start posting that crap.

P.S. Tempest, greggchamberlain and Thrashercub, you three just made my day. :D

[Layira Aura]

OK, time to list the problems here:

1) It's called spell check; it helps when you make typos.

2) Slow down when you're typing. This is no race to get your input heard before the topic shifts, things on discussion boards tend to go slower than on IM or chat.

3) there's a multi-quote at the bottom of people's post so you can quote more than one at a time.

4) it called an edit button at the bottom of your post so you can add in things that you forgot.

5)read this thread at least somewhat through before you start posting that crap.

P.S. Tempest, greggchamberlain and Thrashercub, you three just made my day. :D


BRP, I don't even know why you still bother! ;) It's a hopeless cause! Those fools have no idea what they're talking about. It's just sad.

[ThrasherCub]

BRP, I don't even know why you still bother! ;)

Because eventually you get to be like me and correcting stupid people becomes a highly amusing art.

[xxMatolfxx]

feh on werewolves!

thanks to Frank and Gordon and their Bell commercial stardom, were-beavers are now the UltraCool creatures!

:cool: :D
What about weresheep from the movie Black Sheep.

There is over a thousand sheep in New Zealand and they are pissed off. :)

[Kaden]

Why do I miss these things? I want to have a weenie roast. *sigh*

[Kat-chan]

Mm, were-sheep. I can see it.

Slogan: "They're tired of being shaven bald. They're tired of being pushed around by sheep dogs. And now...they're fighting back!"

"Baaaaaah!"

"OH GOD! OH GOD! NOOOO!"

*random death noises*

[xxMatolfxx]

Look it up it's hillarious. Wally world has the dvd copy in my town.

[Layira Aura]

Because eventually you get to be like me and correcting stupid people becomes a highly amusing art.

Good point. ;)

[Canis Lupus]

You hbumans are stupid as a vampire. Who cares if you can light a fart on fire. You humans are weak and fucked u7p. Wake up and get the fuck out of your homes. Better yet, let me bite you a couple of times.
Yes, 7-Up is a fantasic drink.

Your right about the wa y we feel about getting treated. We are scared. I am on the run now from some hunters. They know that I'm a wedrewolf and they hate me for that. But I have great control over my urges. I would never hurt a human. Yet my kind fear the rest of humanity. I pity man, for they fear that which is different and do not wish to try to make a compimise.

You should try stand-up comedy. The public will laugh their arses off.

[xxMatolfxx]

Wow, you guys are getting horrible at pointing out typos. I am starting to even get scared to type anything anymore.

[Gilenea]

It's not so much the typos. If, for the most part, you aren't a moron with your spelling, we're a forgiving crowd.

But if you couple an inability to spell with an inability to be a rational human being, we have a problem. :)

Gil

[xxMatolfxx]

It's not so much the typos. If, for the most part, you aren't a moron with your spelling, we're a forgiving crowd.

But if you couple an inability to spell with an inability to be a rational human being, we have a problem. :)

Gil
AKA "TrU W3r3" disease.:)

(Couldn't resist.)

[datarion]

I think the funny part is that they are a werewolf and a vampire at the same time, oh and that they are on the run from some "hunter" but still have time to try and insult "HUMANS"!!

[IncomitatusLatro]

I think the funny part is that they are a werewolf and a vampire at the same time, oh and that they are on the run from some "hunter" but still have time to try and insult "HUMANS"!!

And browse the internet :p

[Krallis]

"Your right about the wa y we feel about getting treated. We are scared. I am on the run now from some hunters. They know that I'm a wedrewolf and they hate me for that. But I have great control over my urges. I would never hurt a human. Yet my kind fear the rest of humanity. I pity man, for they fear that which is different and do not wish to try to make a compimise."

Yeah, yeah whatever. Yeah I believe in werewolves (they rock!!!!!) but this is stupid if you were getting hunted why the hell would you tell eveyone you were. i could be a hunter and if your being hunted how do you have time to register here.

[xxMatolfxx]

Yeah I believe in werewolves (they rock!!!!!) but this is stupid if you were getting hunted why the hell would you tell eveyone you were. i could be a hunter and if your being hunted how do you have time to register here.

Yea go undercased i's. :)

[Sazabi]

You guys are being way too critical of Fenrerious. This is a site of tolerance for those who think alike.

I know his claims may seem wild, but try to think of it as a modified version of "The Fugitive".

Only instead of jumping off dams to avoid the law, Harrison Ford sits at his computer posting on the internet all day, and Tommy Lee Jones' character doesn't exist.

[DarkWolf]

You guys are being way too critical of Fenrerious.Not particularly. Just using a little logic. It happens.

This is a site of tolerance for those who think alike.Since when? There's me thinking it was a werewolf themed site for open discussion and expression of opinions both good and bad. Whoops, my bad, it's actually a site of tolerance and we must all think alike on werewolfy matters. Forgive my mistake, I've only been here ten years. >_>

Sorry, I'm in a sarcastic mood today. :D

[Sazabi]

Sorry, I'm in a sarcastic mood today. :D

Clearly not sarcastic enough of a mood to finish reading the post and realize I was ripping on the guy.

[DarkWolf]

Clearly not sarcastic enough of a mood to finish reading the post and realize I was ripping on the guy.
I did read, but that's a joke which only works on somebody who has seen The Fugitive. :shrug:

[Kaden]

Or someone that actually cares.

[Sazabi]

I did read, but that's a joke which only works on somebody who has seen The Fugitive. :shrug:

Even if you've never seen the movie, you clearly aren't in a sarcastic enough mood if you think "If Harrison ford sat on his computer posting on the internet all day" could possibly be anything but a negative comment. I just found it funny that you tried to be sarcastic over a sarcastic comment. The cycle is complete.

Or someone that actually cares.

Do you really want to play that card when you're posting on page 63 of a topic called, "Are werewolves real"? it's clear that you don't have many other priorities on things to care about :)

[Kaden]

No, not at the time. Call it boredom at its worst. :D

[xxMatolfxx]

Yes Go Boredome!

[Canis Lupus]

Yes Go Boredome!

Indeed, go bore dome!
http://www.needhp.com/images/jep-182020-8_w.jpg

[xxMatolfxx]

SHINY!

Hey what happened to that pole I had. :) I think that it got deleted. It was just starting to get entertaining too. Now I have to find something else that occupies the empty space in between my shoulders. :)

[MoonLightMadness]

hello, if you dont mind me jumping into the conversation, i happen to 'stumble' upon this.

Clinical lycanthropy or Lycanthropic Disorder is a form of psychosis or dementia in which the patient has delusions of being a wild animal (usually a wolf). The subject does not actually change shape, but is nevertheless capable of being as dangerous as an actual werewolf.

Many cases of supposed werewolfry which are the works of Lycanthropic Disorder victims have been recorded since antiquity. The Book of Daniel describes King Nebuchadnezzar as suffering from depression that deteriorated over a seven-year period into a frank psychosis at which time he imagined himself a wolf.

Among the first medical descriptions were those of Paulus Aegineta during the later days of the Roman Empire. In his description of the symptom complex, Aegineta made reference to Greek mythology in which Zeus turned King Lycaon of Arcadia into a raging wolf. Thereafter, references to lycanthropy appeared in the ancient literature. The older writers, as Forestus and Burton, regard the werewolf mania as a species of melancholy madness, and some do not deem it necessary for the patient to believe in his transformation for them to regard him as a lycanthropist.

Examples of lycanthropy are only now being linked to schizophrenia having very few cases to study in our present institutions makes this disease difficult to study in-depth.

[Gilenea]

Yeah. We know. Thanks.

Gil

[Necro Mortis]

Yeah. We know. Thanks.

Gil


I didn't! Why does no-one tell me these things?! :confused:

[xxMatolfxx]

I didn't! Why does no-one tell me these things?! :confused:
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!! You get me everytime.

[Delaware]

No need to jump all over the guy just beace he doesnt know the rest of us are bitter and mean ;) :p

[xxMatolfxx]

No need to jump all over the guy just beace he doesnt know the rest of us are bitter and mean ;) :p
Fine I will jump on you. :) lol

What does "beace" mean. :)

[Necro Mortis]

Fine I will jump on you. :) lol

What does "beace" mean. :)

Peace with a drunken P? That's my usual ending position when drinking. Well, there's always a drunken P at some point in the night anyway.

[Golden Howl]

I can't believe this thread is still alive!
Too bad the creater of this thread is no longer a member. If they saw it, they would be so proud....

[xxMatolfxx]

Well you better believe it. :)

[Canis Lupus]

Peace with a drunken P? That's my usual ending position when drinking. Well, there's always a drunken P at some point in the night anyway.

I GET IT!

[john the baptist]

I GET IT!

i got it and this is my first veiwing. MAN YOUR SLOW.:D

[xxMatolfxx]

Agreed.

[qazxswedc]

there's obvibiously some truth in it or no one would belive in them common sence really :) :) :) :)

[DarkWolf]

there's obvibiously some truth in it or no one would belive in them common sence really :) :) :) :)
That would also mean Santa visits houses every christmas, a fairy changes teeth into coins, and every murderer claiming it was angels or God who commanded them to kill were right and should be freed to do God's work.

Your (lack of) logic fails, try again.

[UNODRAGONE]

That would also mean Santa visits houses every christmas, a fairy changes teeth into coins, and every murderer claiming it was angels or God who commanded them to kill were right and should be freed to do God's work.

Your (lack of) logic fails, try again.



and spelling :)

[Necro Mortis]

I HAS IT! THEE FIRST PHOWTO OF A REEL WEREWOLVES! BEFOLD!

http://blog.makezine.com/werewolf-halloween-costume102507.jpg

[UNODRAGONE]

I HAS IT! THEE FIRST PHOWTO OF A REEL WEREWOLVES! BEFOLD!

http://blog.makezine.com/werewolf-halloween-costume102507.jpg


I love you more and more :) sad thing is that costume looks better then most werewolf movie ones!

[greggchamberlain]

are those grizzly bear paws?

[UNODRAGONE]

are those grizzly bear paws?

Now that you say that....it looks like the mouth of a wolf and the body of a grizzly

[Woofs]

Now that you say that....it looks like the mouth of a wolf and the body of a grizzly

It does. LOL! You can find a pretty good werewolf costume in the TV series "werewolf" From 1987. They had good costumes, I thought.

[erication]

there's obvibiously some truth in it or no one would belive in them common sence really :) :) :) :)

I know that this message is very very late but just want to say that I agree with you that werewolves do exist:). Still there are no evidence to prove it yet.:(

[Necro Mortis]

I know that this message is very very late but just want to say that I agree with you that werewolves do exist:). Still there are no evidence to prove it yet.:(
...

[BlackRosePhantom]

are those grizzly bear paws?
Yes, and same with the feet. The legs, arms, and torso don't belong to any bear that I know of. I think it might actually be some guy dressed in a werewolf costume, and a pretty cheep werewolf costume at that. My biggest grief with it are the feet; a werewolf would never have feet like that. Bears don't even have feet like that, and you can tell that they're just furry shoes.

[Golden Howl]

Funny that you say that BlackRosePhantom, because to me it appeared more like a deformed bear to me than a werewolf.

[BlackRosePhantom]

Funny that you say that BlackRosePhantom, because to me it appeared more like a deformed bear to me than a werewolf.
Well, isn't a deformed bear and werewolf the same thing to Hollywood these days?

[Gilenea]

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Gil

[BoxedCat]

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Gil

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[NativeDancer]

Personally, I do believe in people that can turn into wolves, or anyother species, and those are generally called werewolves... I just call 'em shape shifters.
Most of my dad's family believes in them, simply because everyone in our family grew up to stories about people who could become a wolf (some who could become bears or hawks as well) helping protext stuff...
I probably sounded crazy there, but just answering with my opnion. :)

[Necro Mortis]

Due to several people getting electronic STDs from a site I posted I have removed it. I think you should all go to electronic clinics and get checked out

[NativeDancer]

LOL.


Edit: That was my response to that at first. Those things don't go away! They keep on popping up and yelling that, and when you DO catch them so you can quit them, they don't die! (well, not that I'd think they could really die, but you get my point.)

[Tempest]

For all you believers out there I have an interesting site you should check out. Prepare for an insight, you may want to be sitting down for this (http://youareanidiot.org/).

My virus protection notified me of a trojan from that site >.>

[livinontheedge]

i believe that werewolves excisted sometime ago,but have either died out or were hunted to extinction

[MorganaFang]

i believe that werewolves excisted sometime ago,but have either died out or were hunted to extinction

You sure that you're not confusing werewolves with dire wolves, dude (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4AxQXmasg4) ?

[livinontheedge]

yes,im sure.
Why?

[MorganaFang]

yes,im sure.
Why?

Because I keep hoping that logic and common sense will prevail over complete naivety.


Why do you think they existed long ago, what evidence makes you so sure?

[livinontheedge]

I dont know,just a hunch,how do you explain all the werewolf sightings?

[ThrasherCub]

how do you explain all the werewolf sightings?

People who are too stupid to understand the biology of a perfectly normal animal they see and then leap to uneducated conclusions.

[livinontheedge]

You have a point,but i would'nt go so far as to call people stupid,and what of those who do not jump to uneducated conclusions,that has to mean something.

[MorganaFang]

You have a point,but i would'nt go so far as to call people stupid,and what of those who do not jump to uneducated conclusions,that has to mean something.

That they need glasses, are looking for money, are getting over excited about a real animal that doesn't change shape... the list goes on.

[livinontheedge]

*sighs* Give me a break.

[MorganaFang]

*sighs* Give me a break.

Why, you just give birth or survive cancer?

If everyone was just satisfied with looking at the surface of things we'd have a lot more problems.

In order to function in this world you need to have a sharp mind. No one is going to take it easy on you or give you a break when you cannot defend your beliefs better than "sigh wah wah" you present yourself as extremely naive and not worth taking seriously.

[livinontheedge]

I rest my case,but before i call it a night,if werewolves exist(and i am not going to say they do or don't)does that mean that they could be living among humans remaining undetected?
If this is so,why wouldn't they show themselves to those who believe in and respect them,this has been bugging me for quite a long time,and no im not saying i don't believe in werewolves because i do,and surround myself with stories,artwork,stat ues and anything else directly related to werewolves.

[ThrasherCub]

You have a point,but i would'nt go so far as to call people stupid,and what of those who do not jump to uneducated conclusions,that has to mean something.

1, some people are stupid.
2, if they were educated and non-stupid then they would have come to a different conclusion.

[Necro Mortis]

My virus protection notified me of a trojan from that site >.>
Better site has replaced it.

[greggchamberlain]

Better site has replaced it.


don't think so.

someone on the board sent me that website address yesteday (without realizing what it had) and my firewalls flashed "trojan" alert also.

i closed out, deleted the email from my system (and cleaned out the delete file too to make certain) then closed the computer, rebooted and then checked my security system, which declared that my office computer was clean.

so no problems for me.

but i think maybe, necro, you ought to avoid that site and whatever "Better site" is in future.

[dwulf]

Do werewolves exist? As shapeshifters, it's highly unlikely, but as some sort of cryptozoological animal, maybe. Then again, the stories of werewolves probably came from stories of real wolves that merely displayed more intellegence than people usually give animals credit for, such as evading traps and recognizing dangerous situations.

[MorganaFang]

Do werewolves exist? As shapeshifters, it's highly unlikely, but as some sort of cryptozoological animal, maybe. Then again, the stories of werewolves probably came from stories of real wolves that merely displayed more intellegence than people usually give animals credit for, such as evading traps and recognizing dangerous situations.

Large wolves who behave with what people would personify as very human traits can exist.

Werewolf, meaning man wolf, can not exist. Especially in cryptozoology where at least they can conjure up feesible biological reasoning to support their theory.

Know that's what you're trying to say but felt like clarifying to be sure.

[greggchamberlain]

well, cripes, how many "lobo" cowboy campfire tales are there throughout the American and Canadian west over the past two centuries about smarter-than-average wolves that manage to avoid poison bait traps and trip standard snares and otherwise run would-be wolf bounty hunters ragged through the high country?

[NativeDancer]

well, cripes, how many "lobo" cowboy campfire tales are there throughout the American and Canadian west over the past two centuries about smarter-than-average wolves that manage to avoid poison bait traps and trip standard snares and otherwise run would-be wolf bounty hunters ragged through the high country?


Yes, you're right. People never seem to think that an animal can be as smart as, or even smarter than them.

[ThrasherCub]

smarter-than-average wolves that manage to avoid poison bait traps and trip standard snares and otherwise run would-be wolf bounty hunters ragged through the high country?

Those are clearly Coyotes. Once you make that minor change the stories become much more believable. ;)

[greggchamberlain]

no, actually, stories about Ol' Man Coyote and also Coyote Woman are separate from "lobo" stories.

and in my part of canada, we can tell the difference between a wolf and a coyote when we see one. wolves are also more inclined to avoid humans whenever possible while coyotes are less "snobbish" about being seen in near-proximity to us two-legs. :D

coyotes are smaller, scrawnier and, i apologize for the term, "mangier-looking" than wolves.

[ThrasherCub]

no, actually, stories about Ol' Man Coyote and also Coyote Woman are separate from "lobo" stories.
It was a bit of a joke on the fact that coyotes sometimes actually accomplish things like that. It's one of the reasons farmers hate coyotes so much. They outsmart a lot of their traps and defenses so the farmers have to just sit on their porch all night and try to shoot the thing.

coyotes are smaller, scrawnier and, i apologize for the term, "mangier-looking" than wolves.
:eek: You'd call this mangy!?

http://bp3.blogger.com/_VSVn_14ZGDM/SANSofm9KkI/AAAAAAAABWU/1ttj3WvxedM/s400/state.jpg

:( He's clearly full of adorable and cuddling.

[greggchamberlain]

oh, puh-leeeeezzzzze!

that photo's been air-brushed so much before it was photoshopped that you can see the streaks left behind by the jet blasts even through the digital erasures.

and that face...hmmmph, such an obvious nose job...along with the lip tucks...tweezering of the fur line over the eyes...and those teeth...can you say C.A.P.S., dearie?...and i won't even mention the chinwork...oh, excuse me, i meant chins work!

you obviously found that coyote lounging around some poolside in Marin County, waiting for his agent to call with news that Spielberg's people want to talk to his people about setting up a meet for a chat about an option on a contract for feature remake of Wild Kingdom.

rah-lee, T.C., i so expected much more sincerity in your efforts, sweetie...ah, well, ciao *kiss-kiss* we'll do lunch toodles now dah-link!

:D

[Necro Mortis]

:( He's clearly full of adorable and cuddling.
I'm pretty sure Gregg was referring to REAL, wild coyotes. That one has a collar on...

http://www.tucsongardener.c om/Year04/indexphotos/sickcoyote.JPG

This is the non disney version of a coyote. Welcome to reality ;)

[UNODRAGONE]

I'm pretty sure Gregg was referring to REAL, wild coyotes. That one has a collar on...

http://www.tucsongardener.c om/Year04/indexphotos/sickcoyote.JPG

This is the non disney version of a coyote. Welcome to reality ;)

Wiley coyote would be jealous of his package :)

[greggchamberlain]

and a definite male, too, i cannot help but notice.

must be the coyote version of "well-endowed" maybe?

:D

[Necro Mortis]

...
You're all bestiality perverts.

[greggchamberlain]

takes one...

:D

[UNODRAGONE]

takes one...

:D


Necro wants to secretly be in our club

[greggchamberlain]

thought he was the founder.

:D

[UNODRAGONE]

thought he was the founder.

:D

I thought I was??? :(

[J.L.R.]

Don't worry dear, you are. :D

And to get things back on track with the original question...

Are Werewolves Real?

No...

That is exactly what we want you to believe. :D

[greggchamberlain]

to Unodragone: i thought you were the heart of the club.

[UNODRAGONE]

to Unodragone: i thought you were the heart of the club.


hhmmm welll I do have the biggest sword so yeah I can go with heart of the club :D

[J.L.R.]

I dont know,just a hunch,how do you explain all the werewolf sightings?

drugs abuse, mental unstability, people confusing one animal species from another, and of course the all too wonderful "teenager plea for attention."

[ThrasherCub]

I'm pretty sure Gregg was referring to REAL, wild coyotes. That one has a collar on...
Hey, just because he's not emaciated like the one you posted doesn't mean he's not a real coyote.

Wolves can look pretty fucked up too you know.

[stupidusername]

do werewolves exist?? wat do u think ? my answer is indeed they do logic may not show it but wen has it ever showed something was or wasnt real u dont have 2 have proof to beleive proof is just something someone made up so people wold beleive them. wat do u think??

hey i was just reading a thread and it was by the user name kingfatman or somthing along those lines. but the point is is that i need to speak with this person. asap. and i was hoping some one could help me. he claims to be a real werewolf. and yes i think they exsist. but if any one can help me get in contact with this person i would be very greatful. thank you.

[stupidusername]

hhmmm welll I do have the biggest sword so yeah I can go with heart of the club :D

sorry to bother you but you were in a chat room with the person im looking for. the one whoi claimed they were a werewolf. the chat was about nine pages long please any infowill help. he went by kingfatman or something.

[WareW-Believer]

Dude, he's probably messin' with your head or whatever. Chances are extreemly high that he's not a werewolf. Do you contact every person who claims to be a werwolf?

[UNODRAGONE]

sorry to bother you but you were in a chat room with the person im looking for. the one whoi claimed they were a werewolf. the chat was about nine pages long please any infowill help. he went by kingfatman or something.

you got me???? I haven't been in chat in ages, don't go in it any more. The only people I remember that might have said that messing around would be Burg the Ice or Delaware :shrug:

[Cheater388]

Why is this thread still alive?

Werewolves only exist in the minds of emo teenagers.

[ThrasherCub]

Why is this thread still alive?

Because of our large and constantly renewing supply of emo teenagers.

[J.L.R.]

sorry to bother you but you were in a chat room with the person im looking for. the one whoi claimed they were a werewolf. the chat was about nine pages long please any infowill help. he went by kingfatman or something.

OMG! Anyone by the name of KingFatman HAS to be a werewolf...

Honestly, if I was a werewolf, I could care less about proving my existence, because after all it is better me if you don't believe I exist. That is all I'd need a bunch of wannabes wanting to be blessed or bitten, or urinated on, and then I would have to deal with Pat Robinson... ugh...

Sorry Stupidusername, the only real werewolves are the ones in your dreamworld... We only have lawyers in the real world. ;)

[Necro Mortis]

Honestly, if I was a werewolf, I could care less about proving my existence, because after all it is better me if you don't believe I exist.
And since you'd know yourself that werewolves exist you wouldn't need to argue about it over the internet.

[J.L.R.]

And since you'd know yourself that werewolves exist you wouldn't need to argue about it over the internet.

Absolutely...

[stupidusername]

sorry about that

hi... i have no idea who you are but i need to talk to you

[stupidusername]

Of course. I know for a fact. Lycans (preferred name) are real. Just because no scientific evidence is there doesn't mean that all witnesses are liars. Those that come face to face with a Lycan will never forget it, and those bitten or born with it live with it everyday. Not all transform, but those that do have that extra pain to deal with.

i read a pretty recent thread of yours and would like to talk to you. it sounds dumb but i wanna see if what you said about yourself is true... and if so then you can help me a great deal.... please return my message with an email or text. my email is msperdy2@aol.com and my number is (727)-851-3448 please contact me soon. thank you. chelsy.:D

[MorganaFang]

i read a pretty recent thread of yours and would like to talk to you. it sounds dumb but i wanna see if what you said about yourself is true... and if so then you can help me a great deal.... please return my message with an email or text. my email is msperdy2@aol.com and my number is (727)-851-3448 please contact me soon. thank you. chelsy.:D

So your mom and dad want you to get raped and murdered eh?

[Ender]

Some people enjoy 'surprise sex'. And the Pizza Hut in your area is loving you right now.

[BoxedCat]

Some people enjoy 'surprise sex'. And the Pizza Hut in your area is loving you right now.

3 mediums for $5...I say that's aiming low. At least go for a large, it'll fill you up more.

And afterward you can eat pizza.

[Ender]

Good call.

/me pizzas BoxedCat slowly... and deeply.

Ooh yeah. Bringing it back.

[BoxedCat]

Good call.

/me pizzas BoxedCat slowly... and deeply.

Ooh yeah. Bringing it back.

My pepperoni is killer at the moment...

The end of the sausage was closed off, but do what you will.

[Necro Mortis]

i read a pretty recent thread of yours and would like to talk to you. it sounds dumb but i wanna see if what you said about yourself is true... and if so then you can help me a great deal.... please return my message with an email or text. my email is msperdy2@aol.com and my number is (727)-851-3448 please contact me soon. thank you. chelsy.:D

All I need is your address and you'll be my new wife. Compliance is not necessary.

[Ender]

I felt bad about ordering all those pizzas at first. But the number is still up there. Neh, life's hardest lessons are usually, well, the ones that hit you the hardest. Live and learn, and enjoy the pineapple and olive pizza!

[UNODRAGONE]

is it even a real number? I have a good number :)

(631) 960-7178

[implanted 4 life]

do werewolves exist?? wat do u think ? my answer is indeed they do logic may not show it but wen has it ever showed something was or wasnt real u dont have 2 have proof to beleive proof is just something someone made up so people wold beleive them. wat do u think??

i highly agree they just want u to not believe the facts we must stand up for ourselves protect our race to where we may recruit more people when needed

[UNODRAGONE]

i highly agree they just want u to not believe the facts we must stand up for ourselves protect our race to where we may recruit more people when needed

"they" are doing a piss poor job of it then if you read half the posts on here about "them" trying to prove their existence

[MorganaFang]

i highly agree they just want u to not believe the facts we must stand up for ourselves protect our race to where we may recruit more people when needed

You know your name implies you're pregnant for life?

I just thought I'd point that out.

Too tired to argue about you being a tr00 w3r3.

You're blatantly not.

And seriously uno, don't give out anymore numbers. Don't care what they go to. Save that shit for seedy bars.

[UNODRAGONE]

You know your name implies you're pregnant for life?

I just thought I'd point that out.

Too tired to argue about you being a tr00 w3r3.

You're blatantly not.

And seriously uno, don't give out anymore numbers. Don't care what they go to. Save that shit for seedy bars.

sorry Morg :( couldn't resist

[Galliard]

Awww. But I wanted free pizza!

[Necro Mortis]

And seriously uno, don't give out anymore numbers. Don't care what they go to. Save that shit for seedy bars.
I hear she keeps her own number for seedy bars

[UNODRAGONE]

I actually don't go to bars at all lol too tired from work/volunteer/school to fight with or mess with drunken school boys :p except Necro of course muah come mere!

[greggchamberlain]

unfortunately for necro, as Shakespeare once observed in MacBeth (the scene between the porter and King Duncan), strong spirits both make and unmake the man; they make him willing to but leave him unable to.

:D

[Necro Mortis]

I actually don't go to bars at all lol too tired from work/volunteer/school to fight with or mess with drunken school boys :p except Necro of course muah come mere!
Ack! Midget cooties...
I'd make you go to a bar with me. Then I'd drink a couple of bottles of tequila and fall asleep with my head on your shoulder and drool down your arm.
I know how to show a lady a good time

[UNODRAGONE]

Ack! Midget cooties...
I'd make you go to a bar with me. Then I'd drink a couple of bottles of tequila and fall asleep with my head on your shoulder and drool down your arm.
I know how to show a lady a good time

I'll be your designated driver :) I don't drink, never been drunk but I would hide stuff in your mouth and paint your face to be my bitch :p

[greggchamberlain]

and how is that going to be any different from any other night when necro goes out bar-hopping?

:D

[Mid-night hunter]

Just depends on you believe in science or legends.

[Necro Mortis]

Just depends on you believe in science or legends.
Aka Truth or Stories

[spirit]

Legend says they are real and science says no to the fairy tale.

[MorganaFang]

Um wait hold on... Legend DOES NOT say they are real, in fact werewolves being legend negates their existence.

Legends in every culture are acknowledged as mostly fictional, stories with morals, ethics and the like.

Also folks, science is a very broad spectrum though for the most part without evidence werewolves are dis proven by science, the theory of existence along with possible sightings fall are apart of science. Bad science when people put too much faith is so little.

[Linknivy]

do werewolves exist?? wat do u think ? my answer is indeed they do logic may not show it but wen has it ever showed something was or wasnt real u dont have 2 have proof to beleive proof is just something someone made up so people wold beleive them. wat do u think??

No, but you have no idea how much I would like to be proved wrong =/

[CRDDD]

Umm, why exactly is this place even called werewolf.com if most of the people on here are skeptics??

[Tempest]

Umm, why exactly is this place even called werewolf.com if most of the people on here are skeptics??

Don't you people look around before joining message boards? http://werewolf.com/vb/showthread.php?t=695 3

[ThrasherCub]

Umm, why exactly is this place even called werewolf.com if most of the people on here are skeptics??

Besides Tempest's point, is believing in werewolves really the only reason you could think of for a site called "werewolf.com"? After all, it's not like werewolves exist in myths, art, movies, or roleplaying games, right?

[MorganaFang]

Really want people to go on monster.com and declare they are looking for monsters.

[BoxedCat]

Umm, why exactly is this place even called werewolf.com if most of the people on here are skeptics??

Well, at least that's an intelligent question. Feel free to swing by Science at some point and discuss it with me.

[greggchamberlain]

Really want people to go on monster.com and declare they are looking for monsters.

too easy.

too many human "monsters" of all shapes, sizes, ages, and ethnicities on BOTH sides of the gender fence that exist in the real world without even needing to touch on the fantastic.

[Linknivy]

Of course they are, what else could have made the crop circles?

[Necro Mortis]

Of course they are, what else could have made the crop circles?
A couple of guys with some planks of wood, rope and a lot of time on their hands

[Sadistic Dream]

A couple of guys with some planks of wood, rope and a lot of time on their hands

Absolute. Don't tell the kiddies...I already fucked up the santa issue. :p

[LordJimBolt]

Really want people to go on monster.com and declare they are looking for monsters.

Yeah I've been there @ monsters.com If your looking for monsters thats the place to go. And there's another message board but I'm not allowed to post it here It's private. If you want the link PM for it
:D
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I HATE GOD? Anyone Has A Problem Say It To My Face Or Else I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU

[UNODRAGONE]

Yeah I've been there @ monsters.com If your looking for monsters thats the place to go. And there's another message board but I'm not allowed to post it here It's private. If you want the link PM for it
:D
____________________ __

I HATE GOD? Anyone Has A Problem Say It To My Face Or Else I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU


apparently you haven't been there unless you are refering to another site, monsters.com is a job site

http://www.monster.com/

[Galliard]

And if you actually look up www.monsters.com (I did just to give you the benefit of the doubt, though I regret it), it's a domain that hasn't been taken over yet.