View Full Version : are werewolves real??
Mai Tokiha
10-31-2006, 07:55 PM
do werewolves exist?? wat do u think ? my answer is indeed they do logic may not show it but wen has it ever showed something was or wasnt real u dont have 2 have proof to beleive proof is just something someone made up so people wold beleive them. wat do u think??
Shield_Wulf
10-31-2006, 08:24 PM
What does this have to do with Dreams. This is something that should be in the Myth section. And if you really want an awnser. I don't know if they do or not. The really know proof ether way. If they did though I don't think they would be the type that Shapshifted. They be like that all the time.
Mai Tokiha
10-31-2006, 08:31 PM
true some may stay in one form all the time. sorry i didnt now were to post it under i kinda just posted it were ever cuz i just got my account about an hour ao so ya lol
Sin of Humanity
10-31-2006, 08:47 PM
true some may stay in one form all the time. sorry i didnt now were to post it under i kinda just posted it were ever cuz i just got my account about an hour ao so ya lol
... So you took the time to change you user interface, but not to scroll down past "Dreams" four sections so you get to "Mythology"?
And use spell check. A few misspellings is acceptable, but please, for the sake of the other members who have to read your posts, and the mods who keep this site rolling on its tracks, use spell check.
Mai Tokiha
10-31-2006, 08:53 PM
sorry ill use spell check next time im use to typing like this for messangers and stuff. a ya i never noticed mythology till i actualy took the time to look the list thing over. next time ill now were to post it, i guess.
The Believer
10-31-2006, 09:05 PM
Give me a while i have a really good picture for you to see but it is uuploaded on another thread.
sno raven
10-31-2006, 11:37 PM
Do werewolves exist?
Of course! And werecoyotes, weredeer, werebears, wererabbits, wereravens, weredolphins, werecrocodiles.... and you get my drift.
But I agree. This shouldn't be in dreams.
DoubleStar3
11-01-2006, 07:13 AM
Topic Moved to the correct forum. Please remember to use proper grammar and spelling for future posts. Thanks.
LV426
11-01-2006, 08:17 AM
There is no evidence to support the existence of were-creatures.
Mai Tokiha
11-01-2006, 03:36 PM
well of course theres no evidence i relaize that but say they did exist do u think they might be hiding becuase of what happened back in the like 19th or what ever centurys they were in . maybe there afraid that they will try to hurt them like in all the books you now like blood and chocolate the best book ever about werewolves well thats not the point the point is in that book its like the time period now the girl werewolf viv. told the boys she loved alot and was goin out with that she was a werewolf and he shot a werewolf named ralf and her making here be stuck in the middle of transformation but just say thats why theres no evidence or there not showing them selves wats ur opinion on that??? :confused:
sno raven
11-01-2006, 05:41 PM
There is no evidence to support the existence of were-creatures.
Of course... but as therians we are indeed, in the raw definition, werecreatures.
DarkWolf
11-01-2006, 07:15 PM
Please can some of you pay better attention to the spelling of your words. I do not expect greatness but text that lacks the requirement of deciphering would be appreciated.
MorganaFang
11-01-2006, 08:34 PM
Of course... but as therians we are indeed, in the raw definition, werecreatures.
Very very raw, and unconventional. And even then I'm wary because I find in many cases, people being completely separate animals, we can think we share characteristics but that does not make one completely like that animal.
It's like taking literal interpretation of the bible or painting a red square and calling it art. Unless you can come up a damn good reasoning for defining yourself as a werecreature then you're pretty screwed.
BCvonRayfus
11-01-2006, 11:14 PM
I'll make my reply short for once. To answer the question in the title box above this post: YES
DR. PiNeBoX
11-01-2006, 11:54 PM
Is this purely a kid deal? Because I'm 24, and I look at the facts. And the fact REMAINS. There are no werewolves. Yes it sux, I'd like to be one/kill one. But you are all just playing a mockery of Manuel Romasanta in your own time. I never did enough drugs to do that. But I really like the games, comics and movies about werewolves! ;)
Not all of you, just the ones that claim you are a werewolf. LoL
deathjoker
11-02-2006, 11:07 AM
Quoted by Mai Tokiha
well of course theres no evidence i relaize that but say they did exist do u think they might be hiding becuase of what happened back in the like 19th or what ever centurys they were in . maybe there afraid that they will try to hurt them like in all the books you now like blood and chocolate the best book ever about werewolves well thats not the point the point is in that book its like the time period now the girl werewolf viv. told the boys she loved alot and was goin out with that she was a werewolf and he shot a werewolf named ralf and her making here be stuck in the middle of transformation but just say thats why theres no evidence or there not showing them selves wats ur opinion on that???
I have lost all faith in our school systems.
And no, werewolves DON'T exist. Bigfoot, maybe; Nessie, good chance; Rob Snider getting into another movie without Adam Sandler; doubt it.
See, its all about realism. Think about it, were would you get the material to form yourself into a wolf-like creature. Now, if there were an an animal that morphs into a larger creature over an amount of time... Wait, insects do that. And as far as I know, there are no wolves or humans related to insects, so that is out the window and down the street.
Thoughts?
Mai Tokiha
11-02-2006, 03:36 PM
well if bigfoot and nessie might be real why not wolves for all we now some human somewere( like in the 19th or earlier centurys) could of easliy took wolf dna and morphed in with human dna or there own and made one like that.or it could have naturaly been born in the world somewere not nessacary by were poeple live but in the woods or abandoned places you always have to open your mind to the possibilitys and not just reality.
MorganaFang
11-02-2006, 04:17 PM
well if bigfoot and nessie might be real why not wolves for all we now some human somewere( like in the 19th or earlier centurys) could of easliy took wolf dna and morphed in with human dna or there own and made one like that.
Must have been super easy, especially since in the 19th century DNA had only been picked apart and not know about with certainty until the mid 20th century, 1940's actually and even then they did not know much of the capabilities of gene splicing.
Often they go over this kind of stuff in High School Biology. Basic Genetics!
or it could have naturaly been born in the world somewere not nessacary by were poeple live but in the woods or abandoned places you always have to open your mind to the possibilitys and not just reality.
I have no doubt that in nature humans have "attempted hybrids" the old fashion way with other animals. HOWEVER! Different species mixing is difficult because the cells would mix. It's hard enough with different species when it's different animals of the same species like Horses and Donkey's, they mix and they're baby winds up being an infertile mule. Asian Elephants mix with African elephants often have a difficult time living past a year. (they're trying to figure that one out so they can bring back the mammoth by having an african elephant give birth to hybrid elephant/mammoth.
deathjoker
11-02-2006, 06:15 PM
Quoted by Mai Tokiha
well if bigfoot and nessie might be real why not wolves for all we now some human somewere( like in the 19th or earlier centurys) could of easliy took wolf dna and morphed in with human dna or there own and made one like that.or it could have naturaly been born in the world somewere not nessacary by were poeple live but in the woods or abandoned places you always have to open your mind to the possibilitys and not just reality.
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You know what, I have nothing to say. Actually, just one thing... Read my signature, it explains how you were genetically "morphed".
I still say we have failed as a society... Look at we are creating. Oh well, one to many times having sex with wolves and other species will do that to ya.
Mai Tokiha
11-02-2006, 06:45 PM
Must have been super easy, especially since in the 19th century DNA had only been picked apart and not know about with certainty until the mid 20th century, 1940's actually and even then they did not know much of the capabilities of gene splicing.
Often they go over this kind of stuff in High School Biology. Basic Genetics!
I have no doubt that in nature humans have "attempted hybrids" the old fashion way with other animals. HOWEVER! Different species mixing is difficult because the cells would mix. It's hard enough with different species when it's different animals of the same species like Horses and Donkey's, they mix and they're baby winds up being an infertile mule. Asian Elephants mix with African elephants often have a difficult time living past a year. (they're trying to figure that one out so they can bring back the mammoth by having an african elephant give birth to hybrid elephant/mammoth.
ok i just started biology and they just ot into cells they never talk about the history of it though so ya
and i have to agree with u about the species thing but that dont mean anything and yes there is real werewolves well things that look like them like the wolf man from circuses it may not be a human turning into a wolf but is a gentetic miss hap that does give the people an apperance of a wolf well the hair all over them part
Mai Tokiha
11-02-2006, 06:48 PM
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You know what, I have nothing to say. Actually, just one thing... Read my signature, it explains how you were genetically "morphed".
I still say we have failed as a society... Look at we are creating. Oh well, one to many times having sex with wolves and other species will do that to ya.
im not a mororn or retard im just mentaly challenged (just joking) un like u poeple i actualy keep my mind oopen to the possabiltys of the world
MorganaFang
11-02-2006, 07:59 PM
and i have to agree with u about the species thing but that dont mean anything and yes there is real werewolves well things that look like them like the wolf man from circuses it may not be a human turning into a wolf but is a gentetic miss hap that does give the people an apperance of a wolf well the hair all over them part
Hypertrichosis, actually, they just look like really hairy people which they are. Or like Lon Chaney Jr's version of the wolf man I suppose but I always thought that look more like half Yorkie than wolf. But it is otherwise unrelated to any canine genetics.
Heheh WereYorkies, that would scare me shitless.
Don't worry too much about the biology thing, I have a feeling you would get to more historical aspects or genetics in 11th Grade or so.
TheBlueWolfW.W.
11-03-2006, 09:51 AM
There are no werewolves of a mythical or hollywood type. But you have therians, who may call themselves werebeasts, but are not the mythical version.
Mai Tokiha
11-03-2006, 10:16 AM
Hypertrichosis, actually, they just look like really hairy people which they are. Or like Lon Chaney Jr's version of the wolf man I suppose but I always thought that look more like half Yorkie than wolf. But it is otherwise unrelated to any canine genetics.
Heheh WereYorkies, that would scare me shitless.
Don't worry too much about the biology thing, I have a feeling you would get to more historical aspects or genetics in 11th Grade or so.
ya i saw that about the wolf man thing on t.v. because i was bored and my si. would stop bugging me to watch it so ya
itll probly get more into that in adv. biology or so on o well
There are no werewolves of a mythical or hollywood type. But you have therians, who may call themselves werebeasts, but are not the mythical version.
true
deathjoker
11-03-2006, 05:25 PM
Quoted by Mai Tokiha
im not a mororn or retard im just mentaly challenged (just joking) un like u poeple i actualy keep my mind oopen to the possabiltys of the world
OK, I don't know about "oopen to the possabilitys", but us "poeple" are OPEN minded. If your a Therianthrope, there really isn't much that would be considered a curve ball... Other than a person with evidence that werewolves exist, then that might be something.
However, YOU must understand something, most of the people on this site think logically, then if it still doesn't make sense, THEN they go to the paranormal and supernatural.
If you don't want all opinions, then don't type. Also, what happened to the spell check promise you made earlier? But to rap this up, I will have to agree with TheBlueWolfW.W. and everyone else:
Do werewolves exist? No.
Mai Tokiha
11-03-2006, 07:44 PM
OK, I don't know about "oopen to the possabilitys", but us "poeple" are OPEN minded. If your a Therianthrope, there really isn't much that would be considered a curve ball... Other than a person with evidence that werewolves exist, then that might be something.
However, YOU must understand something, most of the people on this site think logically, then if it still doesn't make sense, THEN they go to the paranormal and supernatural.
If you don't want all opinions, then don't type. Also, what happened to the spell check promise you made earlier? But to rap this up, I will have to agree with TheBlueWolfW.W. and everyone else:
Do werewolves exist? No.
ok it does make sense but i still cant beleive sometime in time werewolves or other mystical creatures didnt exist im sorry but i cant beleive that also sorry about the typing errors im trying my best its just its hard i even do that at school im aways talking to my friends on messangers and thats how we type so give me time thank you and i do want all opinions so i can gather up all the info i get and think about everybodys opinion to see if werewolves did or didnt exist so if you give a yes or no answer please put why it would be realy appreciated thank you
deathjoker
11-03-2006, 08:16 PM
Its cool. :D
Come_get_me
11-04-2006, 10:15 AM
I can tell you they are real, but i dont have any real proof. The only proof is 'what I have seen with my own eyes'. Some will say Im crazy, I know I'm not. You can belive me or you dont have to But they are real. The only reason people today dont know about them, is because people today would not accept them. They would hunt them down, like they did back in the old days.
Mai Tokiha
11-04-2006, 10:51 AM
I can tell you they are real, but i dont have any real proof. The only proof is 'what I have seen with my own eyes'. Some will say Im crazy, I know I'm not. You can belive me or you dont have to But they are real. The only reason people today dont know about them, is because people today would not accept them. They would hunt them down, like they did back in the old days.
thats what ive been trying to tell them but they wont listen to me maybe theyll listen to you
Come_get_me
11-04-2006, 12:41 PM
thats what ive been trying to tell them but they wont listen to me maybe theyll listen to you
Maybe they will....
MorganaFang
11-04-2006, 12:44 PM
The only reason people today dont know about them, is because people today would not accept them. They would hunt them down, like they did back in the old days.
Much like the "witches" of salem and other such supernatural trials?
Well I have news for you, those were all human through and through.
Besides, I have a bit of firm faith in our society today when it comes to "scientific" discoveries. If "Men that could transform" actually existed, they would not be hunt down out of fear and need to be wiped out. At least not in North America or Western Europe.
I put it out there that I've seen some narly shit as well, but I don't go about rambling on about and using that nasty tactic of "I can't convince you of anything, because humanity as a whole is jaded" First off, no crap you will not convince any body when you do that kind of melodramatic speak and second you're human, you have faith, remember that one.
Basically all I'm saying is if you believe but do not have the proper way to support you belief in an argument, then do not argue. Simple as that because it will lead to a whole lot of negativity. And I'm sure you're still much happier believing what you want to believe whether others do or not. Fine, you're entitled. Personally I'd love for werewolves to exist but so far logic and science has only shown dead ends in that kind of study. Doesn't make me want to still research and study any less. I just won't argue with bad information (on science issues).
deathjoker
11-04-2006, 02:09 PM
originally posted by Come_get_me
I can tell you they are real, but i dont have any real proof. The only proof is 'what I have seen with my own eyes'. Some will say Im crazy, I know I'm not. You can belive me or you dont have to But they are real. The only reason people today dont know about them, is because people today would not accept them. They would hunt them down, like they did back in the old days.
Before I go on with this, MorganaFang... I love you. But just as we have been saying here for the last ten thousand times; NO PROOF, NO ACCEPTANCE!
If you have had eyewitness accounts to "real werewolves", then I'm sure you can get a camera and tape it for us... Wait, that would be too simple. Let me guess, it was out in the woods and you stumbled upon a ritual, right? Oh, better yet, you happened upon someone "transforming" and they snarled at you, then ran off into the darkness.
But, if you and your friend will listen to people who are NOT on the happy pills, (or just do some heavy research), you'll see that werewolves are NON-existant. Trust me, I was like Mai Tokiha, thinking the world was hiding wonderful secrets or powerful beings; However, these things don't happen. I researched werewolves for three years, turning up nothing, then I decided that it wasn't something supernatural, it was a plant.
Either a fungus that grows on corn, causing delusions; Or a rare plant that can only be found in the Balkans. Everything has a reason, and if you look long enough, you'll find the logic in the madness.
Come_get_me
11-04-2006, 02:36 PM
Before I go on with this, MorganaFang... I love you. But just as we have been saying here for the last ten thousand times; NO PROOF, NO ACCEPTANCE!
If you have had eyewitness accounts to "real werewolves", then I'm sure you can get a camera and tape it for us... Wait, that would be too simple. Let me guess, it was out in the woods and you stumbled upon a ritual, right? Oh, better yet, you happened upon someone "transforming" and they snarled at you, then ran off into the darkness.
But, if you and your friend will listen to people who are NOT on the happy pills, (or just do some heavy research), you'll see that werewolves are NON-existant. Trust me, I was like Mai Tokiha, thinking the world was hiding wonderful secrets or powerful beings; However, these things don't happen. I researched werewolves for three years, turning up nothing, then I decided that it wasn't something supernatural, it was a plant.
Either a fungus that grows on corn, causing delusions; Or a rare plant that can only be found in the Balkans. Everything has a reason, and if you look long enough, you'll find the logic in the madness.
I know for a fact they are real, i will find a way to prove it. Mark my words, i will find away.
deathjoker
11-04-2006, 02:45 PM
Then get your a$$ off the computer and get your proof.
MorganaFang
11-04-2006, 06:11 PM
I know for a fact they are real, i will find a way to prove it. Mark my words, i will find away.
Ah cartoonish idiom. Oh yes now I fear what you have to bring to the table because you sound like a Scooby Doo villian.
Come_get_me
11-04-2006, 06:49 PM
Ah cartoonish idiom. Oh yes now I fear what you have to bring to the table because you sound like a Scooby Doo villian.
Lol, im not trust me, but i will find proof
Templer565
11-09-2006, 05:59 PM
I think Were-animals are real just think for a minuet If you where to spin a globe and put your finger on some land there probable a were-animal around there. Just think if there are that many stories in separate parts of the world there’s got to be a explanation. Plus there are lots of modern stories.
Mai Tokiha
11-09-2006, 06:30 PM
that is so true lol
LV426
11-09-2006, 09:43 PM
The regeneration capabilities alone would spare them from being killed but they would become science experiments and government troops. I've been on the path of real werewolves for years and have yet to see a real one or anyone who can offer me a shred of proof.
OldOrcinusOrca
11-10-2006, 02:22 AM
When the legend grows bigger than the truth--print the legend. And the werewolf legend has stood the test of time pretty good so far. That's real enough, isn't it?
Hollow^Hound
11-10-2006, 08:46 AM
WTF?!?!? What the heck ppl, this isnt really going anywhere now is it?
"*YAY* Werewolves are real!" "No they ain't!" "Yes they are" "Is not!... Blah Blah Blah
Jeez, do you want truth?!
Well you first have to ask yourself: How far am I willing to go to find the answer. Not an answer you want and not a baised answer, but really all you have to do is look. You wont find the answer in a book, in a movie, in a post and nowhere behind your computer my friends.
I will leave the answer for you to discover.
Aka "[I]How far down the rabbit hole do you want to see" :droolbloo
Vagabond Flow
11-10-2006, 09:15 AM
If werewolves existed, and had any powers worth having, they'd rule the world. Since they don't rule the world, they don't exist.
Layira Aura
11-10-2006, 09:28 AM
What makes you so sure that they'd rule the world? Maybe all they want to do is chill out and enjoy their peaceful lifestlye(if it is peaceful). I'm pretty sure they can exist WITHOUT ruling the world.
Vagabond Flow
11-10-2006, 11:13 AM
That's true, I suppose. I was assuming that werewolves would have personality traits resembling humans (or a wolves).
Templer565
11-10-2006, 02:47 PM
Somthing else on the rule the world thing. since werewolf are consider monsters wich is sad :cry: what happens when people see somthing scary they tend to try to destroy it or the goverment would do all sorts of tests on them . so if they said who they are what do you think would happen they get killed wich is also sad :cry: they don't know who eles is one so they don't get together and say lets take over the world.there probaly not even evile anyway if they where woden't there be a war or somthing.
ulfheadnar
11-10-2006, 06:43 PM
am[/U] I willing to go to find the answer. Not an answer you want and not a baised answer, but really all you have to do is look. You wont find the answer in a book, in a movie, in a post and nowhere behind your computer my friends.
I will leave the answer for you to discover.
Aka "[I]How far down the rabbit hole do you want to see" :droolbloo
I agree with most of that. First off, how far are you willing to go, and second how badly do you want the knowledge?
I disagree with the part about using your computer or books to find your answer. There are some things out there that will put you on the right trail at least. Or trails, as they tend to diverge at some points along the way.
Been working on the answer for 25 years at least and I've gotten a LOT further down the hole. Working actively on going deeper...
Cheater388
11-10-2006, 07:14 PM
It's like the Matrix: if you're not looking really, really, really (and I mean really) hard for it, it's practically non-existent!
MorganaFang
11-10-2006, 07:50 PM
It's like the Matrix: if you're not looking really, really, really (and I mean really) hard for it, it's practically non-existent!
And most people don't have their entire lives to devote to search that hard so yeah...
Templer565
11-10-2006, 08:49 PM
I think Werewolfs are real just think for a minuet If you where to spin a globe and put your finger on some land there probable a werewolfs around there. Just think if there are that many stories in separate parts of the world there’s got to be a explanation. Plus there are lots of modern stories. :D
MorganaFang
11-10-2006, 09:01 PM
I think Werewolfs are real just think for a minuet If you where to spin a globe and put your finger on some land there probable a werewolfs around there. Just think if there are that many stories in separate parts of the world there’s got to be a explanation. Plus there are lots of modern stories. :D
Actually, there are stories of shapeshifters in every country, however it isn't necessarily wolf or even animal. And whether or not werewolves existed this minute, I do not believe that would have too much influence on the stories being told, well it would have some, dur :p. But people who never even seen or heard of a creature have a pretty easy time coming up with stories for them. Like the six legged foot tall pony we came up with the other day.
deathjoker
11-10-2006, 10:33 PM
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*Sighs and punches self in face*
Werewolves and all other were-related creatures don't exist. Man, your the 3rd kid on here who thinks that werewolves exist. Now, almost all cultures will have shapeshifting creatures because it is only human to want to change form...
However, if you break it down, where would all that extra body mass come from, or better yet, how would a person change species yet hold the same DNA while in 'wolf' form. It isn't possible.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
BCvonRayfus
11-10-2006, 11:13 PM
ehem...: pokes into conversation,: why do 50-some pages of people get on this forum and post if only 3 people ON here even BELIEVE in werewolves? Just curious. I mean, I'd expect a lot of people who get on here to be like, interested in werewolves, and to want to learn about them, or to be werewolf enthusiasts, but that's just my opinion. And from that, I'd make the assumption that a few more than 3 on here believe in them...Oh, and, I believe in them too, but I won't say why...I have multiple times on here. So, I'm either one of the first 3 you mentioned, or the 4th. I just find it a little sad that every time somebody actually SAYS they believe in them, there's always somebody else who says they don't exist.
BCvonRayfus
11-10-2006, 11:41 PM
Geez you people can get harsh on here! Anyway, did it ever occur to anybody here that they may not exist in this time period, but they HAVE, and will COME BACK? Think about a few things, has the Peter Stubbe/ Stump/ Stubb/ whatever case ever been solved? I've read in multiple books and on multiple sites that when they finally caught him, they found him in "wolf-form" and watched him turn back, or something like that. I don't believe that case has ever been solved, it was the 1300's or 1400's, wasn't it? :hoping a few people on here know what I'm talking about: Thing is, I read that on trial, he told how he got the wolf pelt from Satan, and it gave him shapeshifting abilities. It DOES sound wacky, however, from multiple personal experiances and other things I've been told (by ADULTS, not children who don't know what they're talking about), I highly believe in the possibilities of witchcraft and devil-worship, and that presents many dark possibilities of its own. There were many cases of werewolves, witches, and vampires back then, some explained, some not. These days, don't know if it's just as often those things happen, but there certainly aren't as many believers anymore, and most unbelievers will say "I don't believe in what I don't see." Maybe they WERE here, then left centuries ago, hence the never SEEING THEM. To Christians out there who believe the Revelation prophecy-type stuff, the Bible does say that demons will be released upon earth, and with the presence of demons, I'd think there could be werewolves, vampires, devil-worshipers and witches everywhere. That's just my opinion, say what you want about it. Just think outside the box here....and like everybody else who believes in werewolves on here says, if they would exist, they probably wouldn't themselves be seen too much...
Shield_Wulf
11-11-2006, 12:08 AM
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*Sighs and punches self in face*
Werewolves and all other were-related creatures don't exist. Man, your the 3rd kid on here who thinks that werewolves exist. Now, almost all cultures will have shapeshifting creatures because it is only human to want to change form...
However, if you break it down, where would all that extra body mass come from, or better yet, how would a person change species yet hold the same DNA while in 'wolf' form. It isn't possible.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
You know, there will alwas be who believe in Were-Type beings. If the do, just leave them be. You're not going to change of there mind(most of the time). So safe yourself the maddness. I myself believe they are real but not in the way most people think of them(Not as a shapshifter, but as a being that is alwas half/half). Not in the end they still might not be real but hey who knows, maybe. Hey and in the end most people here don't give me crap about what I think(maybe it's also because I try to be a little bit more non-DeeDeeDee about what I say, spelling is my down fall though...lol).
Vagabond Flow
11-11-2006, 05:20 AM
Unless they fancied making some easy money. Claiming the Randi prize, for example.
Mai Tokiha
11-11-2006, 11:06 AM
but why would they want to make money like that though and i agree with BCvonRayfus they could have existed back then and will come back in the future who nows
Shield_Wulf
11-11-2006, 11:07 AM
Just a quick note BCvonRayfus, in or last post it sound like your putting Witchcraft and Witches in the same category as Devil Worshipers and other things considered "evil". Don't because it's not.
DarkWolf
11-11-2006, 12:03 PM
Note: I have merged the thread "werewolfs what do you think" by Templar565 with this one. There is no need for there to be multiple current threads about the exact same thing.
deathjoker
11-11-2006, 03:17 PM
Thanks Darkwolf...
*cracks knuckles*
I'm not dissing on anyone wanting to believe in werewolves or were-related creatures, I'm just saying that there is no soild evidence that can be used to hold up any of the arguements you guys are using... You can quote all the legends and "so-called" people who claim to shapeshift. it is just every person that has come on here saying they exist only does one thing, believe.
Now, the only way for me, as a logical skeptic, to believe in something like this is... Whats the word of the day kids:
EVIDENCE!!!
Thats right boys and girls, evidence. Bring me a video clip, something to put some soild ground under the claims here. However, before you guys start going after me for my opinions, think about your own and put some reason on them... I know, I have thought about yours with reason; which is why i'm typing this now.
Thank you.
Shield_Wulf
11-11-2006, 04:59 PM
Thanks Darkwolf...
*cracks knuckles*
I'm not dissing on anyone wanting to believe in werewolves or were-related creatures, I'm just saying that there is no soild evidence that can be used to hold up any of the arguements you guys are using... You can quote all the legends and "so-called" people who claim to shapeshift. it is just every person that has come on here saying they exist only does one thing, believe.
Now, the only way for me, as a logical skeptic, to believe in something like this is... Whats the word of the day kids:
EVIDENCE!!!
Thats right boys and girls, evidence. Bring me a video clip, something to put some soild ground under the claims here. However, before you guys start going after me for my opinions, think about your own and put some reason on them... I know, I have thought about yours with reason; which is why i'm typing this now.
Thank you.
I wasn't trying to say you where dissing anyone, sorry if I came off that way. And I know there is know evidence to support that they are real, but that doesn't mean I still don't think there real some how. To me it's the same as religion, there's no evidence to prove that any religion's God/dess are real or not, but people still believe right.
BCvonRayfus
11-11-2006, 06:43 PM
I wasn't suggesting all witchcraft type stuff was devil-worship type stuff, but me being a Christian, I don't think any of it's a good idea...you know...considering the Bible says that anybody who practices stuff like that, witchcraft, magic, etc., should be killed. Please excuse my preachiness, back to the subject. I wouldn't think anybody could get a video clip of a werewolf and live to tell about it,unless they were the werewolf and recorded themself or something. But hey, there could be nice wolves out there too, you never know! ;) But about evidence, I don't suppose that anybody who did find evidence of a real werewolf would actually believe/ KNOW it was evidence of a werewolf. They could think it were left by some other common thing. OR, THEY might believe it was a werewolf, but nobody else would, and the case would be left with some dumb excuse explaining it. Therefor, it might be a little hard to get evidence you're sure of...and still be alive to show it to people. Course, you could just go around, asking people if they're werewolves, and get that on film. :D
TotalIsolation
11-11-2006, 06:55 PM
To Deathjoker;
Now I just have one question. If you don't believe in werewolves, then why are you a part of a WEREWOLF forum?
Just Asking
Death_Arker
11-11-2006, 07:37 PM
Because he is someone who enjoys the topic? You do not need to believe something is real just to enjoy it. Also lets not drag religion into this, that will just muddy these waters worse than they already are. In any case there are many things in the world that arnt normal, does that mean man can be a wolf or vice versa? Not at all, but it lets us think. Its one matter to think about the topic of werewolves and its another to waste your life on it. Man has done many things in its life to things it did not understand, but does that make the things he fears mystical, not by any stretch of the word. You can believe until your eyes bleed from lack of moisture but that wont make them any more plausible to science. Too much has to go on in a change of a man to wolf for it to be physically possible, and yes as it was mentioned several accounts in the middle ages were biased due to a mico-organism that grew with the grain they used to make thier bread which caused dilusions and caused already twisted minds to become violent and do horrible acts. This DOES NOT make them werewolves, just because they lost inhibitions and morals does not cause them to undertake a metamorphasis. The straight fact is that until mystical theories can be measured and checked in science there is no right way to say that anything such as were creatures exsist. As for me, there is more in heaven and earth than is dreamt of in our philosophy, so I am yet decided as to the exisistance of such beings.
Shield_Wulf
11-11-2006, 08:33 PM
I wasn't suggesting all witchcraft type stuff was devil-worship type stuff, but me being a Christian, I don't think any of it's a good idea...you know...considering the Bible says that anybody who practices stuff like that, witchcraft, magic, etc., should be killed. Please excuse my preachiness, back to the subject. I wouldn't think anybody could get a video clip of a werewolf and live to tell about it,unless they were the werewolf and recorded themself or something. But hey, there could be nice wolves out there too, you never know! ;) But about evidence, I don't suppose that anybody who did find evidence of a real werewolf would actually believe/ KNOW it was evidence of a werewolf. They could think it were left by some other common thing. OR, THEY might believe it was a werewolf, but nobody else would, and the case would be left with some dumb excuse explaining it. Therefor, it might be a little hard to get evidence you're sure of...and still be alive to show it to people. Course, you could just go around, asking people if they're werewolves, and get that on film. :D
Well, nothing aginst Christians(bacuase I'm one, kind of). But the Bible has been change so much and so many book where left out of it. In the Old Testament before it was it was Translated from Hebrew the word Witch was never in it, it was "Thu shalt not suffer a Poisoner to live", the Jewish people believe in a form of magic, in the Kabbalah.
LV426
11-12-2006, 12:14 AM
Stubbe was never caught in the form of a wolf. He just claimed that he donned the skin of one and met the devil in the woods who demanded he kill children. Basically just a delusional serial killer.
The shapeshifter legends come about because people were closer to nature. Even primitive peoples, including those that drew images on the cave walls of Lasceaux and Trois Freres had images of human like creatures with animal features. This wasn't because humans could shapeshift but that they believed if they used the attributes of the animals in their lands it would make them better hunters and warriors.
Morgrim
11-12-2006, 08:09 AM
My take on the global legends- as children, most people 'pretend' to be animals. Haven't you ever pretended to be a horse, or a dog? I think its a part of the human psyche (please tell me I spelt that correctly) to want to imitate those around us, and that includes animals.
Also, amongst adults it seems to have a spiritual meaning to it. Many cultures have 'spirit' or 'totem' animals. This is supposed to grant you the protection and skills of that animal. So wolves are good hunters, deer are fast, bears are strong, otters can catch fish, salmon are determined enough to swim up waterfalls...etc etc. This connection sometimes goes deeper. In the australian aboriginal Dreamtime myths, animals were as inteligent as humans and spoke, or interacted in the same way. There are many cases of humans being transformed into different animals; Kurrajing the black cockatoo is my favourite myth. And their ceremonies (again, I can't remember how to spell the word) often feature people dressing up as the animals while performing stylised dances.
I do not think this provides evidence that people can shapeshift. There are too many problems to it. Where would the mass come from/go to, how could the process be controlled, would it be possible to reture, how would you cope with the pain? (You would break and mend multiple bones, have organs twisting around, muscles reattaching...you would not remain conscious, and I think only the most graphic of descriptions could be realistic for 'this world'; fiction can twist the rules as much as wanted, of course.) If it was only a case of looking hard enough, someone must have found it by now.
deathjoker
11-12-2006, 12:34 PM
originally posted by TotalIsolation
To Deathjoker;
Now I just have one question. If you don't believe in werewolves, then why are you a part of a WEREWOLF forum?
Just Asking
Well, if you anything about anything: THAT IS JUST THE NAME OF THE SITE!!! Oh, and I post here because I'm THERIAN!!! This a forum for Therianthropes, not werewolves.
Just saying.
Now, onto something on topic. OK, so maybe getting a video clip would be to easy... But it would put a cap on everything you guys believe in. However, when you guys say 'even if they got proof, they wouldn't live long enough to get it out'; it really kills any credit you had before hand. It makes you guys out to be crazy... Not trying to be rude, I'm just trying to explain why there is alot of opposite thoughts to your own.
Just as a side note:
This website is for Therians by Therians. Believeing in werewolves and other things of that nature comes second to the main idea that most of us are Therians. If your a werewolf, or believe you are, this site is full of HUMANS!!! Being a werewolf and being Therian are two different things, and I, along with every other Therian here, would like to make this as clear as crystal to all new members.
DarkWolf
11-12-2006, 01:02 PM
This a forum for Therianthropes, not werewolves.This forum is for anybody interested in mythology. This site is for anyone. Yes, it's "werewolf.com" but that just means we are geared more towards the topic of werewolves but any topic can be discussed.
It should be noted the purpose of the site is not and has never been for people believing they are shapeshifting werebeasts, but providing they can be sensible they are as welcome here as anyone.
On topic, I shall repeat the ongoing theme: prove your words. If this really is to discuss that the myth known as the werewolf is real then find and produce evidence to back up this claim. I do not mean some doctored photograph or webcam home movie. I mean present your proof to a University, get a research grant (should be easy if you can shapeshift in front of them) and get it studied. There are laws protecting you from harm so you won't be getting the military hunting you and the results of the research would help millions so you'd be a prized commodity.
Excuses of it being a risk or whatever are unfounded. Really, if you claim to be a shapeshifter then you have no excuse, whatsoever, not to provide solid factual proof.
Morgrim
11-12-2006, 08:50 PM
I do not mean some doctored photograph or webcam home movie.
Doctored photos are bad, but at least a webcam home movie would be a start. :p
deathjoker
11-12-2006, 09:19 PM
Sorry Darkwolf, I was just trying to make a point.
BCvonRayfus
11-14-2006, 10:24 PM
Well, about the Peter Stubbe story, never said I believed that they caught him as a wolf, I've just read that in certain places. Now I DO believe everything I've read in the Bible. (Once again, excuse the preachiness, I'll try not to get too bad.) And when it comes to the "science" of werewolves, like, where the mass comes from and goes during transformations, how do they endure the pain, blah blah blah, I say (just ME, I haven't heard this from anywhere else, this is my own theory) that werewolves are from demonic origin. Like, somebody possessed beyond all help, and the demon uses the body of the human to exist physically on Earth. Otherwise, demons can't be seen. (usually. there HAVE been reported sightings.) The demon takes over the human's body and mind so they feel the pain but stay awake and alive. There are many things "scientifically" wrong when it comes to demons and possession and things like that, for instance there's a story in the Bible were Jesus takes a LEGION, not 1, but an entire GROUP of demons out of 1 MAN. When I first read that, I thought, "dude, weird..." but I believe it. Who knows? I could be wrong about all this, and it could turn out that there aren't any shapeshifting werewolves out there, but I could still believe that the crazies out there who go nuts and attack and eat people and do other nasty things could be that way because of demon possession. Until it's proven that werewolves DO NOT exist, I'll believe in them.
TotalIsolation
11-17-2006, 03:35 PM
[QUOTE=deathjoker]Well, if you anything about anything: THAT IS JUST THE NAME OF THE SITE!!! Oh, and I post here because I'm THERIAN!!! This a forum for Therianthropes, not werewolves.
Just saying.
I was just asking. No need to get all caps on me. Honestly I asked to get an answer, not to be sarcastic. If I offended you I am sorry.
LV426
11-19-2006, 01:02 PM
There are many things "scientifically" wrong when it comes to demons and possession and things like that, for instance there's a story in the Bible were Jesus takes a LEGION, not 1, but an entire GROUP of demons out of 1 MAN. When I first read that, I thought, "dude, weird..." but I believe it.
It's been said that Legion does not refer to actual demons but to the Roman Legion which did not want to leave their country but Jesus forced them to leave. So they departed in inadequate boats and ended up drowning.
Child of Gaia
11-19-2006, 10:00 PM
geeze, think of it this way, in every majour culture has some sort of a legend of a shapeshifter, more often or not, it is a canine. Native Americans, Chinese, European, African, Russian et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Chaos Wyldrider
11-19-2006, 11:47 PM
I do believe werewolves are real. There are scientific facts that vampires exist. Sure there aren't exactly any "scientific facts" about werewolves but that doesnt mean they can't exist like vampires.
DarkWolf
11-19-2006, 11:59 PM
I do believe werewolves are real. There are scientific facts that vampires exist. Sure there aren't exactly any "scientific facts" about werewolves but that doesnt mean they can't exist like vampires.
Vampires have NOT been scientifically proven.
Hoplite
11-20-2006, 08:24 AM
i don't think so.....shapeshifting like that is impossible....scient ifically....but they are real in our imagination, in our hearts....and that's all that matters....to me at least :D
but make sure you don't unleash the "beast" within
deathjoker
11-21-2006, 07:56 AM
:D Yeah, I was going to say, vampires haven't been proved by science either. There are diseases that cause similar traits as vampires, however, there not vamps.
Just as the FABLED werewolf, vampires and other related creatures haven't and won't be proven by modern science because, quote of the day folks..."They don't exist."
Thank you.
Dog of Heaven
11-22-2006, 02:54 PM
Could someone obtain the traits of a werewolf or vampire through hypnosis?
DarkWolf
11-22-2006, 02:59 PM
Could someone obtain the traits of a werewolf or vampire through hypnosis?
No.
ulfheadnar
11-22-2006, 07:57 PM
No.
Um, actually, there are hypnosis files specifically for bringing out 'werewolf' traits. You won't shift, but you'll think you are shifted. USE WITH CAUTION if you ever try any. The one's I found are called "curse" files. There are some really good hypnosis sites on the net, and they usually have a blanket file that will undo the effects of most of the files on their sites. "Curse" files aren't affected by the "undo" file, so they all carry explicit warnings on use. They recommend local hypnotists in your area to help you remove them if you're so inclined. To be honest, I haven't tried any and don't plan to. It's just interesting info.
Ulfskull(.),,(.)
11-25-2006, 05:40 PM
Wow....I had to read nine frikkin' pages. I should be awarded a medal. Okay, I'll now post my opinions. I beleive in the possibility of werewolves. I have seen no evidence that werecreatures exist or don't exit and I look at this at a openly scientific view. Or at least, I'll try but keep in mind that I'm only 16 who got held back a grade.
Here a view on werewolves from an evloution view. One idea of a werewolf that I had was that is was never soemthing you can control but you can trigger it. Because if you were to be in a dangerous cituation, becoming a wolk-like being would be useful. You would have lethal teeth and claws, more energy, the determination of a canine, more agility, better hearing senses, better smelling senses, and probably better animal instinct. This would be a rare but great gene to have. Whoeve rhad this gene would be the ultimate hunter/survivor. Exactly the kind og gene that would have nenefitted mankind so long ago. But the reason why such a great gene isn't very common is because it is no longer neccesary. That would be nature's reason on why she refuses to amke more people with this gene. And there is the fact that although modern day society would be more excepting of werecreatures, the other socities weren't. A person who was a werewolf and lived in Europe would have been hunted down either to death or isolation. If a werecreature was known in North or South America, they would probably be excepted and maybe even worshipped but if a person read anythign abotu these creatures in the culture's history, they would logically assume a more realistic exaplanation, not that I blame them. As for what would happen to them in Asia and the midwest, I have no idea. They would most likely act like Europe but I don't know much on the history of Asia so I'll jsut admit that I don't know. So these creatures will either be dead or endangered because of Human history and the fact that nature no longer needs them for the survival of the Human race.
And there is the idea of a disease that would give them this form. But the catch is that they would also experience brain problems that would give them bloodlust. And what would exaplin why we can't find anyone with this disease is that everyone who caught this disease would die shortly. So they wouldn't have much time to spread it and like the black plaque and leperosy, ceased to exist for some reason. I don't know why the black plaque stopped and what happend to leperopsy but I imagine that those who caught it died and everyone finally got lucky enough to avoid all those who have it. And that we don't experience thses diseases because because we are much cleaner then our ancestors and we now have medecine that can cure diseases before causing much harm.
And it may be possible that some people are jsut born with strange, physical, wolf-like characteristics. If a werewolf was born in the wrong culture, they would be killed as an infant. If they were bron in the right one, they were probably inable to have children. And these creatures would jsut be that one strange incidence that happened so long ago and will never happen again. Or at least, hasn't happened yet.
When I picture a werewolf, I imagine that their legs would be given a different shape for the sake of agility, they would grow bigger, sharper, and stronger nails, develope better ears, and they would grow hair all over their body. I don't think that they would actually turn into a wolf or gain hulk-like muscles.
Okay, these are my ideas. I don't beleive them but I don't ignore them either. Like I said before, I CONSIDER EVERYTHING.
Oh, I almost forgot. Losing or gaining the matter of the body is not a problem because I believe that if they exist, they change shape that takes up as much space as their other form. They don't become bigger or smaller. As for what would make the change to begin with, perhaps they are born with a gland that makes a hormone which delivers a "change into this form" message to all cells. As for what this would feel like, I have no idea. My guess is that it could be painful, there could be no feeling at all, or it would sut be described as weird.
And even if they don't exist, can't we all agree that's it's fun to talk about them?
Oooh, almost forgot. I heard people refer to witches. The term "witch" was given to the female followers of the Wicca religion. The Wicca religion is all about nature and karma, not satanism or black magic or any of those lies. But centuries ago, the church viewed this religion as evil because they assuemd that the people in the Wicca religion were soemhow fooled into worshipping Satan by the devil himself. And Wicca would perform ceremonies that they believed created magical effects and their women would create herbs that would heal the their sick and do other positive effects. The Church viewed this "Magic" as blasphemous and the women who practiced it as "Witches." So the term "Witch" is really jsut an offensive word created by the church and aimed at anyone who follows an unchristian religion. Witches really don't exist. As for sorcerers, devil worshippers, and demons, maybe. There isn't any evidence that shows whether they exist or not. So I consider them.
And I don't think that if you can actually practice magic, real magic, assuming that there is a force that defies logic and science that you can control without any reason, that it would make you evil. Maybe they are gifts of God. I don't think that anyone can be born evil. If a person is evil, it is because they choose to be, not because they creep christians out.
P.S. I do not mean to insult christians. I'm just pointing out the mistakes that the church understoodedly did. Nowadays, most christians are okay by my book.
Ulfskull(.),,(.)
11-25-2006, 05:43 PM
Sorry about the long post. It's just that after reading everyone's posts, there were a lot of things in my mind that I wanted to say and point out. Cheers.
miseryfields
11-26-2006, 02:05 AM
well of course theres no evidence i relaize that but say they did exist do u think they might be hiding becuase of what happened back in the like 19th or what ever centurys they were in . maybe there afraid that they will try to hurt them like in all the books you now like blood and chocolate the best book ever about werewolves well thats not the point the point is in that book its like the time period now the girl werewolf viv. told the boys she loved alot and was goin out with that she was a werewolf and he shot a werewolf named ralf and her making here be stuck in the middle of transformation but just say thats why theres no evidence or there not showing them selves wats ur opinion on that??? :confused:
i believe his name was "rafe".
my opinion is that if there are any p-shifters or anything of that sort, they wouldnt want to tell anyone for fear of being exposed, experimented upon, tested upon; emotionally and/or physically, things of that sort. that would be my main reasoning as to keep myself secret.
and please. for the love of god. my grammar is horrible, and i can barely read yours. sentences with periods are your friends.
Mai Tokiha
11-26-2006, 09:51 AM
ya i think your right. sorry about the senteces without periods thing
miseryfields
11-28-2006, 12:54 AM
no problem. i got used to the whole instant messenger thing and failed 11th grade english. anyways. yeah. his name was rafe, i looked in my book last night. if i was a p-shifter, i wouldnt expose myself because of those reasons i gave in my previous post. i mean really. would you?
Mai Tokiha
11-28-2006, 04:22 PM
ya i think im gonna fail english this year because of it. i dont own the book i wish i did though its a good book and i rarly say that and i agree with you about the not telling anybody thing .
MorganaFang
11-28-2006, 05:38 PM
ya i think im gonna fail english this year because of it. i dont own the book i wish i did though its a good book and i rarly say that and i agree with you about the not telling anybody thing .
Moving into private messaging territory.
Moroni_Aenek
12-01-2006, 03:59 PM
I hope they exist:drool:, and it would certainly be AWESOME if they did:drool:, and I would LOVE to be one:drool:, but they probably don't.
:cry::cry::cry::cry:
Loup-garou
12-01-2006, 09:41 PM
I think that the existence of wereolves is possible. I'm no expert, but lycantrophy might be able to go so far as to actually creating a real classic werewolf. I mean, anything is possible. I hope there are real werewolves.
MorganaFang
12-01-2006, 10:42 PM
I think that the existence of wereolves is possible. I'm no expert, but lycantrophy might be able to go so far as to actually creating a real classic werewolf. I mean, anything is possible. I hope there are real werewolves.
Lycanthropy is purely mental, remember? No physical change, in terms of a shift in shape. It means you've got a screw loose if you have it :p
TheBlueWolfW.W.
12-02-2006, 02:34 PM
If actual physical shifting werewolves existed, we would all be DEAD!
Child of Gaia
12-02-2006, 07:47 PM
If actual physical shifting werewolves existed, we would all be DEAD!
not necessarily, you see, there are stories of the existance of werewolves from most parts of the world:
Saxons
Incans
Aztecs
Mayans
Germans
Nords
Swedes
Cheerokee
Blackfoot
Chinese
Abariganie
Greek
Romans
and many northern African nations all belive in Werewolves, stating that they live umoung us without trying to kill us.
It ashould be noted that the wolf actually reprosents success and building, especially in Ancient Rome, Romulus and Remus, the founders, were raised by a shewolf from which they suckled until they were 4 years old, when they joined the pack until they became independant.
NizGarouPrincess
12-03-2006, 09:02 AM
No.
TheEpitaph
12-03-2006, 07:40 PM
If actual physical shifting werewolves existed, we would all be DEAD!
Not true. If the real, man-into-beast werewolf exists, perhaps it has adapted to humans, and gained a sense of self-preservation.
If it gained that, it would learn to avoid humans to hide it's own existance.
kakuyoiscool
12-04-2006, 12:47 PM
If werewolves were real would we even know it? Maybe they'd keep it hidden like vampires. :shrug:
John 677808
12-05-2006, 12:22 PM
I think it is a possible that humans shifting into wolves or wolf like beings is real. Say this gland which triggers a gene in your body to morph into a wolf or wolf like being could be triggered by a build up of say energy and thought.Say when you want to change you focus on changing with enough energy and in conjunction with the desire activates chemicals in your body which interact with the gland and then the gene and you morph. I would imagine that once this gene wakes up it would take a few minutes to change, unknown forces or a certain toleration of your body from being able to constantly do this since puberty means there would be very little or no pain, perhaps a simple feeling of weirdness and then the transformation occurs. Once the person has fully changed into a wolf or wolf like being you still think as a human except you have much sharper senses and a strong wolf instinct.Anyone with this ability is not going to advertise it as it would lead to being captured by the military and tortured/disected alive in somewhere like Area 51. Human rights mean nothing to certain branches in the U.S goverment and high level scientists who would see you as something to pull apart. Thats how I would see it if I had this ability. ;)
John 677808
12-05-2006, 03:18 PM
...
You know what, I have nothing to say. Actually, just one thing... Read my signature, it explains how you were genetically "morphed".
I still say we have failed as a society... Look at we are creating. Oh well, one to many times having sex with wolves and other species will do that to ya.
:D I dont think having sex with wolves would do much in the regard of creating a werewolf, but I do think it could make the wolf very angry. best not to try it :p
DL Lycan
12-05-2006, 03:31 PM
I think it is a possible that humans shifting into wolves or wolf like beings is real. Say this gland which triggers a gene in your body to morph into a wolf or wolf like being could be triggered by a build up of say energy and thought.Say when you want to change you focus on changing with enough energy and in conjunction with the desire activates chemicals in your body which interact with the gland and then the gene and you morph. I would imagine that once this gene wakes up it would take a few minutes to change, unknown forces or a certain toleration of your body from being able to constantly do this since puberty means there would be very little or no pain, perhaps a simple feeling of weirdness and then the transformation occurs. Once the person has fully changed into a wolf or wolf like being you still think as a human except you have much sharper senses and a strong wolf instinct.Anyone with this ability is not going to advertise it as it would lead to being captured by the military and tortured/disected alive in somewhere like Area 51. Human rights mean nothing to certain branches in the U.S goverment and high level scientists who would see you as something to pull apart. Thats how I would see it if I had this ability. ;)
The only flaw with this theory is that genes and glands are very easy to detect, Especially if they're "abnormal" as it were, Thus the chances of them going undetected in a health obsessed society of 6 billion poeple is *highly* unlikely.
Chaos Wyldrider
12-05-2006, 10:12 PM
Vampires have NOT been scientifically proven.
http://www.angelfire.com/dragon/psychoticfury/
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LV426
12-06-2006, 01:34 AM
The only flaw with this theory is that genes and glands are very easy to detect, Especially if they're "abnormal" as it were, Thus the chances of them going undetected in a health obsessed society of 6 billion poeple is *highly* unlikely.
Actually I don't see that at all being unlikely. I mean I went from the age of 16-30 without seeing a serious health care professional and have never had any testing done on my genetics. For all I know I could carry genetic flaws that aren't actively visible to the common physical and yet do cause minimal changes in me. Unless someone begins showing major or significant changes in their behavior or medical condition doctors don't run gland or genetic tests.
John 677808
12-06-2006, 06:25 AM
The only flaw with this theory is that genes and glands are very easy to detect, Especially if they're "abnormal" as it were, Thus the chances of them going undetected in a health obsessed society of 6 billion poeple is *highly* unlikely.
The Werewolves or Wolf shifters would be able to avoide going detected if their numbers are small enough. Since from childhood they are going to tell there young to avoid human doctors at all costs ,otherwise they will be discovered and subjected to horrible medical experiments. The alternative is that the goverment/special branch already know about their existance and do all they can to keep it out of the western media. Something else that struck me is that the shifters may be able to perform 2 types of shifts. The first being the most simple and least energy consuming such as a change to a Wolf and the second being more complex with a change to a Wolf like being.For instance the more experienced they get once they reach 20-25 years they are able to transform under the second shift ,aswell as the first one.
Thereby two shifts the gene/genes are capable of undergoing. :cool:
Phoenix's Master
12-06-2006, 12:16 PM
werewolves do indeed excist, and the reasen that i know this is because i saw it happen.
Rylias Shadow
12-06-2006, 01:00 PM
werewolves do indeed excist, and the reasen that i know this is because i saw it happen.
Tell us about it, then. :)
Phoenix's Master
12-07-2006, 12:01 AM
Please, about 10 of my friends were changed, so i saw what happened VERY clearly. Basically, they stood in a circle of candles, with lines drawn in between. Then thay started chanting stuff, I wasn't able to hear a thing! Then the usual happened: fur started growing, fangs came out, and I diddent bother staying. I ran like crazy.
John 677808
12-07-2006, 06:35 AM
Please, about 10 of my friends were changed, so i saw what happened VERY clearly. Basically, they stood in a circle of candles, with lines drawn in between. Then thay started chanting stuff, I wasn't able to hear a thing! Then the usual happened: fur started growing, fangs came out, and I diddent bother staying. I ran like crazy.
lol If this is true and not the affect of some mind altering substance you should have stayed to see what actually happened. werewolves or a shift to wolves :D
Phoenix's Master
12-07-2006, 09:45 AM
but if they attacked me, then were would i be? i'de b a werewolf!!!
Mai Tokiha
12-07-2006, 04:53 PM
cool story thing that would be awsome to see lol
NightmareVampyre
12-07-2006, 06:12 PM
If this is true, that you really saw them doing that, then why wouldn't you have asked them what they did. It could be a revolutionary discovery. I know plenty of people who would want the ability to change into a wolf.
Buddha Monkey
12-07-2006, 10:37 PM
http://www.angelfire.com/dragon/psychoticfury/
Supported by the AU (Americans United)
You know, linking to a free site, and attempting (it seems to me) to make it seem as fact, is not the way to do it. Vampires, Werewolves, Dragons, yadda yadda yadda are NOT REAL (I had to jump on the bagwagon, I'm a good lemming).
Edit: By the way, when my first thought is "I don't want to open that thread", why the hell do I do it anyway? It seems a bit counter productive.
John 677808
12-08-2006, 08:36 AM
If this is true, that you really saw them doing that, then why wouldn't you have asked them what they did. It could be a revolutionary discovery. I know plenty of people who would want the ability to change into a wolf.
Well if he knows them then there's no excuse for him going back to them and asking them for the books/rituals they used and then post the information on this site. ;)
Phoenix's Master
12-08-2006, 09:58 AM
what are u, john? a person that wants to be abnormal? the only part i don't know are the words, that's all.
MorganaFang
12-08-2006, 11:30 AM
what are u, john? a person that wants to be abnormal? the only part i don't know are the words, that's all.
Question, do you actually use brain at all? Not an insult, I just honestly want to know because thus far your posts (and pm's) have been millimeters close to unintelligible.
Ok so after this I'll stop jumping on your ass but I want to know something else. What did you think you wanted to achieve when you came to this site? From what I understand so far you make claims you've seen werewolves (changing no less), you have even killed some and also are possibly infected yourself. You present all this information as if the werewolf affliction were bad here on a site where people consider werewolves to be the coolest thing since ice, some even wanting become werewolves. Now you appear the pose the question why a person would want to be a werewolf as if that is the most ridiculous thing on this site.
Think man, think!
Phoenix's Master
12-08-2006, 12:53 PM
It's just that*laughs* Okay, I can tell the whole thing except for the words, but it too dangerous to try without the words. There's a pack of werewolves close by, and I can find out the words. If I do, and if people want it, I'll tell them how to do the ceremony. but the conditions must be perfectly right.
John 677808
12-08-2006, 01:23 PM
It's just that*laughs* Okay, I can tell the whole thing except for the words, but it too dangerous to try without the words. There's a pack of werewolves close by, and I can find out the words. If I do, and if people want it, I'll tell them how to do the ceremony. but the conditions must be perfectly right.
lol ok go ahead and tell us exactly the conditions and pm me the chants incantations and I may test them. :D Then I may back up your claim. :cool:
LV426
12-08-2006, 03:03 PM
It's just that*laughs* Okay, I can tell the whole thing except for the words, but it too dangerous to try without the words. There's a pack of werewolves close by, and I can find out the words. If I do, and if people want it, I'll tell them how to do the ceremony. but the conditions must be perfectly right.
Why not give us the whole thing? Why not include the conditions, the chants, the words, and the whole ceremony? Why even have to PM you, if it's for real then why not tell us how to do it?
John 677808
12-08-2006, 03:10 PM
Why not give us the whole thing? Why not include the conditions, the chants, the words, and the whole ceremony? Why even have to PM you, if it's for real then why not tell us how to do it?
Not everyone that comes to this site would use the information assuming its true ,for honourable purposes. It would be better to just PM all of it to a few certain members currently asking for it. ;)
LV426
12-08-2006, 04:39 PM
Not everyone that comes to this site would use the information assuming its true ,for honourable purposes. It would be better to just PM all of it to a few certain members currently asking for it. ;)
How is PMing it going to weed out the wheat from the chaff? There is no way to know anyone's intentions. Post it for all. Even if there are some who would use it for nefarious purposes there are those who will be able to counter any effects that this ritual might inspire.
BCvonRayfus
12-10-2006, 10:32 AM
I'd like to know where the good werewolves went. I've read multiple stories (supposedly true ones, yes,) about like, priests that became werewolves by curses 'n such, and would help people in wolf form. If I were a werewolf, I'd either: hide myself as best as I could from civilization like seemingly all werewolves do, or, show myself to society, become a werewolf rockstar (would that NOT be AWESOME???) and if anybody would try killing me or capturing me I would simply THRASH them and then go about my business...:aaaah... that would be the life.:
deathjoker
12-10-2006, 01:14 PM
... Sorry everyone, I'm back after a long vacation!
Now, it is time to finish this one off for good.
I figure that this is just an never ending thread. No one whats to believe the other, so everyone ends up insulted or pissed. So, I, here and now, wish to extend a "competition" is you will, to all. Find evidence, any type of evidence to prove your cases. I will create a contest in the contest thread, so that once and for all we can have this settled. Now, any evidence will do. Written books on real werewolves, video would be better, or even a werewolf if you can find one to talk to... THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!!!
Anyone one think this is a good idea?
LordNexthor
12-14-2006, 09:25 PM
Hi!. I found this theme interesting, and would like to add something. I researching through the internet about werewolves, and i found some stories about witnesses that claim they saw werewolves. The most recent cases are coming from Michigan & Wisconsin. You can search in google typing weird michigan, dogman or beast of bray road. Those keywords should take you to the information. But i was wondering, why so many ancient tribes, cities or whatever, always had stories about werecreatures, almost all of them are werewolves? I think that they from another dimension and sometimes they jump into ours and there when people see them. Because there is not physical evidence, like bones or a corpse to prove it. But people still see them. Besides in almost all cultures of the world have legends regarding to them, and are called by different names. Portugal & Brasil are called "lobizones", Spanish countries call them "Hombres-lobos"(wolfmen)and so on. I am not trying to say that they are for sure exist but always there is a possibility for something. Always we must expect the unexpectable and vbe open to all possibilities in life. That's my 2 cents. Thanks.
p.s=> Even in Puerto Rico during sometime we have sightings of all kind of creatures. And our foklore is rich in histories about those beings from times of my grandparents.
DL Lycan
12-15-2006, 12:23 PM
It's because wolves are a fascinating creature: As I'm sure werewolf fanatics know, And that they were quite common around the world, And early man based alot of their legends, myths, beliefs and rituals on animal worship.
fireywolve
12-15-2006, 04:15 PM
I think that werewolve's do exist and even though 2 some people they might not exist.I can not sea y not , that werewolves exactly exist. but 2 me they exist in both the wolf and human world.
BCvonRayfus
12-15-2006, 06:28 PM
Heh, werewolf sightings in Michigan...an old friend of mine/ once friend turned annoyance moved there last year...hehe, I can imagine how she feels about the werewolves living around there :D Nobody on here knows what I'm talking about, but that's fine, because I'm having my fun with it...that's all that really matters :p
John 677808
12-15-2006, 06:56 PM
Heh, werewolf sightings in Michigan...an old friend of mine/ once friend turned annoyance moved there last year...hehe, I can imagine how she feels about the werewolves living around there :D Nobody on here knows what I'm talking about, but that's fine, because I'm having my fun with it...that's all that really matters :p
Explain your hidden wisdom over these sightings :D
BCvonRayfus
12-15-2006, 07:15 PM
Oh, I don't know anything about the sightings, I mean, I know there HAVE been sightings, I'm just talking about things that happened with me and that girl specifically. We were once semi-friends, and I started convincing her that I was a werewolf. It was fun, and it scared the crap out of her. :D I only smile because I like to think of how she feels about there being real werewolf sightings in the state she lives in now. I don't know what part of Michigan she lives in, though.
FreudianSlip
12-16-2006, 12:23 AM
Sure, most werewolves would hide themselves if they existed..thing is..
Werewolves are human who can change into wolves.
Humans do stupid things! In this day and age, one of them would want to become a rockstar or basketball superstar (and ride on top of minivans and get the dean to hate them because their werewolf daddies ended up with the girl..)
And we'd know. Or we'd have *more* proofs and evidences.
BUT you know, it also depends on what you call a werewolf. Those who believe they have the spirit of wolves might call themselves werewolves.
I mean, i like wolves, they kick ass. I think i have a lot of wolfish traits in my personnality. I only consider myself a wolf afficionado and a passionate about the werewolf myth (hey wish i could be one, but id also wish i could be a superhero and that ain't happening until i find a vat of chemicals!) , but some might like to call themselves werewolf over it. As long as they dont claim to sprout fangs when they can't, have fun.or if you're suffering from hyperthrichosis (sp?) you,ve got the werewolf disease.
Same goes for vampires. If drinking blood is what you do, and to you drinking blood is what makes a vampire. Congrats bud, you,re a vamp! Or if you've got porphyria and you like to consider *that* as being a vampire, good for you, watch out for that sunlight! (im UV allergic myself, that means im a daywalker like Blade? :P)
Are werewlves real? Define werewolves. They are, not in the sprout fangs sorta way.
My two cents once more. Not saying ive got the univeral truth though, just my opinion on the subject :p
shaddow_hunter
12-16-2006, 03:03 AM
OK. Sure. Granted, there isn't that much proof of werewolves being real, if any. I realise that. But I think they're out there. Or at least I like to. There are so many things that people don't understand out there and things most of us don't even know are true. There's always the possablity that they are out there. My point is, we can't say they aren't real if we don't know for sure.
Now I know alot of you are going to say "but we do nknow for sure. there isn't enough proof, so they aren't real." But before you do, this is just my opinoin. It's not meant to cause trouble. I just wanted my say on the matter.
moonmoon04
12-18-2006, 12:33 PM
They are real for i have seen one. :eek:
NightmareVampyre
12-18-2006, 06:33 PM
Do you have any proof other than your word? Such as a picture? If you don't, I doubt anyone here will believe you.
saint vasdec
12-19-2006, 05:51 AM
Do you have any proof other than your word? Such as a picture? If you don't, I doubt anyone here will believe you. well i think tht they r but i dont ave proof so i dont no 4 sure but i beleive tht they r real becuz i no tht theyre ave bin bodys found and they ave ad scrath marks in them like tht they say a werewolf wil leave so it cud b true :p
Lance_Kern
12-19-2006, 11:20 AM
I personally think that they are and hope to find one someday!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
Blue Eyed Beaute
12-19-2006, 06:48 PM
Everything and anything is posible. The only thing that makes it imposible is that not everyone believes. When you fist try to learn something, like riding a bike, you probably think you can't do it. If you don't believe you can do it, then you wont accomplish the task. If you believe you can, then you can. The same goes for everything else.
MorganaFang
12-20-2006, 12:22 AM
Everything and anything is posible. The only thing that makes it imposible is that not everyone believes. When you fist try to learn something, like riding a bike, you probably think you can't do it. If you don't believe you can do it, then you wont accomplish the task. If you believe you can, then you can. The same goes for everything else.
Oh yeah totally, like this one time this kid goes to me "hey I can fly" I tell him to show me by jumping off the roof.
Sufficed to say he flew for a millisecond before hit the ground :D
I was totally convinced.
Blue Eyed Beaute
12-20-2006, 08:30 AM
Oh yeah totally, like this one time this kid goes to me "hey I can fly" I tell him to show me by jumping off the roof.
Sufficed to say he flew for a millisecond before hit the ground :D
I was totally convinced.
The laws of gravity and the planet we live on can't be changed that easily. If that kid went to the moon and said the same thing then I'd bet he could. People need to search for a way to do things if you can't find a way to do it with the resorces you already have.
BCvonRayfus
12-20-2006, 11:07 PM
Sorry, I just have to......you just got burned :D
MorganaFang
12-21-2006, 01:13 AM
Sorry, I just have to......you just got burned
If that's in reference to me, you need to pick apart what she said in both posts. Here, allow me.
The laws of gravity and the planet we live on can't be changed that easily.
So you're basically now saying that even if this kid believed so hard, and so much in himself it doesn't matter. He still can't break the "supposed rules of gravity".
Ooo Ooo, Contradiction!
Everything and anything is posible. The only thing that makes it imposible is that not everyone believes.
...
If you believe you can, then you can. The same goes for everything else.
Obviously my little story was sarcasm, which I wished to god I hadn't had to point out but hey whatever. Anyhoo, now you change you're tune to..
If that kid went to the moon and said the same thing then I'd bet he could. People need to search for a way to do things if you can't find a way to do it with the resorces you already have.
Here's the deal, though the laws of gravity are standing on shaky ground lately it still is a fairly accepted concept that what goes up must come down. Even on the Moon, m'dere. (pointing out that in space you're still not flying more or less you are just hovering a little while until you are slowly pulled towards something.) Physics was one of my bests class :D
Okay okay, I need to focus again, basically what I'm trying to get at is not necessarily a law. More just commonly accepted aspect of life. Organisms, unless microscopic, cannot shape shift super fast. It is not a matter of willing it, or believing so hard it happens. Because if that were the case then god knows a lot of people wouldn't have to shovel out tons of cash and what not for surgeries. Though, that does go with your second post about finding the resources available to you. You can change your look to be more like a furry friend, however that is a long process as well.
We're not talking strong faith in something like God here, we're talking what science has shown us so far in human/and/or any other animal transformation into another creature. Yeah science is not all knowing but it is a cut above just believing so hard that something can change. You can believe all you want but you have to accept that sometimes belief just doesn't manifest into reality sometimes. No matter how strong you believe.
Blue Eyed Beaute
12-21-2006, 09:25 AM
Ooo Ooo, Contradiction!
Obviously my little story was sarcasm, which I wished to god I hadn't had to point out but hey whatever. Anyhoo, now you change you're tune to..
Here's the deal, though the laws of gravity are standing on shaky ground lately it still is a fairly accepted concept that what goes up must come down. Even on the Moon, m'dere. (pointing out that in space you're still not flying more or less you are just hovering a little while until you are slowly pulled towards something.) Physics was one of my bests class :D
Okay okay, I need to focus again, basically what I'm trying to get at is not necessarily a law. More just commonly accepted aspect of life. Organisms, unless microscopic, cannot shape shift super fast. It is not a matter of willing it, or believing so hard it happens. Because if that were the case then god knows a lot of people wouldn't have to shovel out tons of cash and what not for surgeries. Though, that does go with your second post about finding the resources available to you. You can change your look to be more like a furry friend, however that is a long process as well.
We're not talking strong faith in something like God here, we're talking what science has shown us so far in human/and/or any other animal transformation into another creature. Yeah science is not all knowing but it is a cut above just believing so hard that something can change. You can believe all you want but you have to accept that sometimes belief just doesn't manifest into reality sometimes. No matter how strong you believe.
I'm sorry to contradict. It was an accident.
I know it was sarcasm, I was trying to help my point.
I understand that also. I like physics too. But if someone wanted to 'fly', even on the earth, they could find a way to make it happen, if it is from slightly changing your genes, or building an airplane, the person could find a way to 'fly'.
Yes, I agree. I'm not saying that it would happen, but it could happen like evolution. I dunno. I think all i'm doing is confusing myself. . .
Okami no hi
12-21-2006, 11:12 AM
Yeah, I think you're confusing yourself too. Another score for Morgana. Oh, and to quote Red vs. Blue, "you got owned blue dude, effing owned".
Nightmare_63
12-21-2006, 11:13 AM
Well, I wouldn't really know...
But I hpoe so. :D
LV426
12-21-2006, 12:30 PM
I'm sorry to contradict. It was an accident.
I know it was sarcasm, I was trying to help my point.
I understand that also. I like physics too. But if someone wanted to 'fly', even on the earth, they could find a way to make it happen, if it is from slightly changing your genes, or building an airplane, the person could find a way to 'fly'.
Yes, I agree. I'm not saying that it would happen, but it could happen like evolution. I dunno. I think all i'm doing is confusing myself. . .
Currently there is no way to change ones genes to enable flight capability so therefore this is not a viable option. Since this is not a viable option the person in question can not fly without artificial assistance and even then in most cases flying is not really flying, it's falling with style.
MorganaFang
12-22-2006, 01:06 AM
I understand that also. I like physics too. But if someone wanted to 'fly', even on the earth, they could find a way to make it happen, if it is from slightly changing your genes, or building an airplane, the person could find a way to 'fly'.
Eh, I confuse myself all the time, the great thing about typing as opposed to talking though is you get to take a little more time to think and revise what you're trying to communicate. Of course with all the spelling/grammar errors I make you'd never guess I edit anything sometimes.
On to me being a jerk. Do you understand anything of genetic make-up and how DNA/RNA work? Hell some of the top scientists would love the insight if you do. But as far as it is known and taught in basic biology, gene manipulation is possible with in the boundaries of what a human body can already do. Like genes hypothetically can be manipulated to change eye color or genetic defects. This is all of course prenatal manipulations. Genetic tampering on a person after birth and some substantial growth would probably not only not possible but dangerous if it was. Of course right now all of this is hypothetical as stem cell research and any other testing resembling that would help to enlighten some understanding about genetics are big no nos.
Now heres my final point, I am not looking to insult you by any means, more just open a door towards education. I'm a ridiculous person like that. You need to know that arguing a subject with information you barely know basically does leave you at a very confused place. Because a) you do not know what you are talking about and b) you may be contradicting yourself without even knowing it. Research something before you though it out there. Or people like me or meaner folk are going to jump on your ass and point out all the holes in either way too long self important (yet informative) diatribes and/or flat out insult you.
Blue Eyed Beaute
12-22-2006, 10:44 AM
Now heres my final point, I am not looking to insult you by any means, more just open a door towards education. I'm a ridiculous person like that. You need to know that arguing a subject with information you barely know basically does leave you at a very confused place. Because a) you do not know what you are talking about and b) you may be contradicting yourself without even knowing it. Research something before you though it out there. Or people like me or meaner folk are going to jump on your ass and point out all the holes in either way too long self important (yet informative) diatribes and/or flat out insult you.
Eye eye captain :p I think I have been told this before. I am just a loud mouth and don't know how to stop once I think I can make a point. I need to slow down. :(
LordNexthor
12-26-2006, 01:19 PM
Well, looks like this thread is never ending. I will post this link, just read it and make your own conclussions. http://www.theweekextra.com/news/1206/122406beast.html
there are more reports of sightings in some other sites, just need to check it. In the page of the reporters Linda Godfrey there is a report of a man been scratched by a creature looking like wolflike. when get some time got and see. typing about this doesn't mean that i believe that this or that exist. I just want to point out the ibeleive the everything and anything is possble.
For non believers: What will you think if you find out that werewolves creatures exist? Your world will be shatter and you go on depress?
For believers: What if finally is prove that any were -creatures really doesn't exist and is just product of our imaginations? Will you lost your faith?
I just want both groups to think and see beyond what we want to see or believe. We sometimes denied anything; because we are afraid to the unknown or we beleive in everything because we not have anything to believe really. I think that before to make statements we need to get in the other persons shoes. That's it all. For now. :)
Okami no hi
12-26-2006, 02:15 PM
Yeah, I'm not best with spelling either, but next time could you word your paragraph a little better, I couldn't understand some of it. THX.
DL Lycan
12-26-2006, 03:20 PM
do werewolves exist??
No.
nighthowler
01-03-2007, 01:31 PM
now now weres do exist when they are over rated species would you want people to know you exist and hunt you down thats why there is no proff of the existance but im sure if you venture out some time in the right location you might find one and it rip you to pieces :D
fuzzalemur0
01-10-2007, 07:33 PM
HAHAHAHHAAHAH!! this topic cracks me up! :D Im a certified 100% werewolfian... I dont do any killing, in fact I've only bitten one person and that was my friend in 3rd grade. Surprizingly he didnt turn, maybe because i was human when it happened...
Anyone who says they dont exist should be booted :mad:
P.S. if ya dont belive me i really dont care
MorganaFang
01-10-2007, 07:54 PM
HAHAHAHHAAHAH!! this topic cracks me up! :D Im a certified 100% werewolfian... I dont do any killing, in fact I've only bitten one person and that was my friend in 3rd grade. Surprizingly he didnt turn, maybe because i was human when it happened...
Anyone who says they dont exist should be booted :mad:
P.S. if ya dont belive me i really dont care
werewolfian?! :p
Hilarious. From now on I'm a humanian :D
william_wraithe
01-10-2007, 10:20 PM
werewolfian?! :p
Hilarious. From now on I'm a humanian :D
I like Lobo ... gave Superman a run for his money.
William
Okami no hi
01-10-2007, 10:33 PM
Woohoo, Will is back. I like reading his work. :D
strablonde
01-11-2007, 02:45 AM
Hello everyone! It's been a while since I've been here. I've moved from the place in the country ;) Anyhow, I believe werewoves exist. I don't have proof .. but it's just something you know in the pit of ur stomache. :)
Peace..Angela
shaddow_hunter
01-11-2007, 03:31 AM
I'm with Strablonde. They are out there. Heres a question for the mods of the site: If you don't belive they exist, and you like to ridicule (and let be ridiculed) those who simply state that they think they exist... THEN WHY THE HELL IS YOUR SITE CALLED WEREWOLF.COM!!!???!! !?? :confused: :confused:
fuzzalemur0
01-11-2007, 07:40 AM
werewolfian?! :p
Hilarious. From now on I'm a humanian :D
Never heard of a humanian a texiainian :D maybe buy not a humanian
Oh yea and i agree, why would you go to a site called werewolf.com if ya dont belive in werewolves???? Jeesh people these days... :D
DarkWolf
01-11-2007, 09:38 AM
I'm with Strablonde. They are out there. Heres a question for the mods of the site: If you don't belive they exist, and you like to ridicule (and let be ridiculed) those who simply state that they think they exist... THEN WHY THE HELL IS YOUR SITE CALLED WEREWOLF.COM!!!???!! !?? :confused: :confused:
why would you go to a site called werewolf.com if ya dont belive in werewolves???? Jeesh people these days
It isn't "our site". This site belongs to Chriz. A domain name is a domain name - there are no subject requirements to get a domain name. I could make a dog site and name it kittiesrus.com or something. Now add that this site IS about werewolves and the use of the domain name is logical. Just because the site is about werewolves doesn't mean we have to believe they exist.
Also the site was originally named werewolf.com because Chriz was a fan of WhiteWolf: The Apocalypse.
You can read more about it here (http://www.werewolf.com/vb/showthread.php?t=695 3).
MorganaFang
01-11-2007, 12:09 PM
Plus there are a few of us that are werewolf lore and movie nuts. We enjoy watching, reading and chatting occasionally about werewolves but we can also separate fact from fiction.
Also I suppose since I mod the space I should bring up the spiritual implications of having a faith where you share your soul with an animal. A man animal soul, a werewolf soul, I suppose if you spiritually feel like a wolf.
fuzzalemur0
01-12-2007, 04:08 PM
yea yea i here that alot...
WareW-Believer
01-12-2007, 04:27 PM
THEN WHY THE HELL IS YOUR SITE CALLED WEREWOLF.COM!!!???!! !??
I believe the right question is: Why do you ridicule when you know that people believe in werewolves and want to talk about them?
Firstly, to those of you who believe in werewolves: There are people who do not believe in werewolves and there's almost nothing you can do about it. (Almost, because there is something.)
Secondly, why can't you mods leave these people to talk about their beliefs? I've never seen anyone get ridiculed like they do about werewolves in the religious section.
MorganaFang
01-12-2007, 04:41 PM
Secondly, why can't you mods leave these people to talk about their beliefs? I've never seen anyone get ridiculed like they do about werewolves in the religious section.
Said it before and I'll say it again, we only ridicule the people who choose to present themselves as oafs by talking like "i r teh r33lz!!!11!1!" Or something similar. Other times we do leave threads like this up for discussion, most of the mods prefer to take the side of nonexistence and present their evidence against what some people may post. There are some mods and older members though that are nice enough to say that there is no concrete proof that werewolves don't exist.
My question is, why complain? or why purely focus on negative posts? If you're sure enough in your belief than talk around the people that choose to troll you, if you feel you are insulted. It is really simple.
Now, would be a good time to stay on topic before the mods of this forum get annoyed :D
WareW-Believer
01-12-2007, 05:10 PM
Said it before and I'll say it again, we only ridicule the people who choose to present themselves as oafs by talking like "i r teh r33lz!!!11!1!" My question is, why complain? or why purely focus on negative posts? If you're sure enough in your belief than talk around the people that choose to troll you, if you feel you are insulted. It is really simple.
But i r teh r331z. Actually no, not really.... Also, who's complaining? I'm not, but if it sounds like I am then call me a hypocrite (strange word, hypocrite). But yes, let's get on topic.
Now, shapeshifters/weres (or what have you (yet another interesting statement)) in general are real. I have no hard evidence, but then again, if I did, I wouldn't show it to you here. Think about it, if someone, perhaps you, were a were. Would they be dumb enough (yes, dumb enough) to post a video and/or pictures of themselves changing? Dumb for one because there's video editing software and you can't afford to believe what you see on the internet anymore. Dumb for another because there's just too many dangers in it.
Course for hard evidence I suggest buying a book... I'm sure some of you remeber William Wraithe and his thread ("Werewolves are not real?") about a book he has been writing. Well it's out next week (14/1/07-21/1/07) in case anybody was curious. (Dates so you know what week, not meaning it's only available for one week.)
fuzzalemur0
01-12-2007, 09:43 PM
I couldn't have said it better myself. thanks for that WareW-Believer...
shaddow_hunter
01-12-2007, 11:21 PM
WareW_believer said it all. If they really are out there, why would a werewolf reveal itself to the public? I mean the government would have them disected and used as labrats before they let creatures like that run around on the streets. Those in high places play off the taxpayers fears. Terrorism, immagrants, ect... (not that these aren't issues) would not be the topics of most news reports if those in high places (not naming any names) didn't basically say "Look at this! Isn't it scarey? If you don't vote for us so we can deal with it, these things WILL happen to each and every one of you."
The same would go with werewolves. If the government knew about them, they'd portray them as public enemy number one.
My two cents....
DarkWolf
01-12-2007, 11:40 PM
IT'S ETC!
Sorry, pet peeve. Please continue...
Vagabond Flow
01-13-2007, 07:31 AM
If I was a werewolf, I'd use my abilities to make as much money as possible as quickly as possible. If 'the government' tried to dissect me, I'd hire a team of hotshot lawyers to sue them all. Easy.
WareW-Believer
01-13-2007, 07:45 AM
If they really are out there....
Are you questioning that they exist then? Just a question, I'm not trying to sound snotty, ect (sorry DW :D).
The same would go with werewolves. If the government knew about them, they'd portray them as public enemy number one.
Actually, they already do. But think about it. If anyone from the government came up on national television and said, "werewolves [etc.] are real, but don't panic.... yadda yadda ya*....," would anyone take them seriously? Some would yes, but what about the rest of the population? I highly doubt it. (Please refer to William Wraithe, and possibly The Book about this. (His new book shall be referred to as "The Book"))
*Yes, they would actually say "yadda yadda ya," perhaps to keep demons away.
angery pup
01-13-2007, 01:40 PM
Hello everyone! It's been a while since I've been here. I've moved from the place in the country ;) Anyhow, I believe werewoves exist. I don't have proof .. but it's just something you know in the pit of ur stomache. :)
Peace..Angela
I agree with u. It is something that certian people get. They can't prove it. I actually think that anything is possible, if you believ that something can happen.
shaddow_hunter
01-13-2007, 03:29 PM
Are you questioning that they exist then? Just a question, I'm not trying to sound snotty, ect (sorry DW :D).
No, I firmly belive they exist. Just another example of how my inability to think straight makes whatever I try to say sound different to how it played ou in my head. (I think this post is another one...)
Actually, they already do. But think about it. If anyone from the government came up on national television and said, "werewolves [etc.] are real, but don't panic.... yadda yadda ya*....," would anyone take them seriously? Some would yes, but what about the rest of the population? I highly doubt it. (Please refer to William Wraithe, and possibly The Book about this. (His new book shall be referred to as "The Book"))
*Yes, they would actually say "yadda yadda ya," perhaps to keep demons away.
I guess you're right. I mean, not many people out there actually belive anyone about it now. Why would the government telling them make it any different?
fuzzalemur0
01-13-2007, 04:22 PM
If I was a werewolf, I'd use my abilities to make as much money as possible as quickly as possible. If 'the government' tried to dissect me, I'd hire a team of hotshot lawyers to sue them all. Easy.
it is not that easy...
Also everyone here has a point, like before, i said im 100% werewolfian, and all you guys were probably like, yea.. right of course he is... If i walked up to the President and said "IM a werewolf" he would probably smile and recomend therapy... See, no one takes you seriously so i just lay low...
WareW-Believer
01-13-2007, 04:58 PM
Also everyone here has a point, like before, i said im 100% werewolfian, and all you guys were probably like, yea.. right of course he is....
Not me actually. I'd question you if I was interested (my experience has led me past questioning). But I wouldn't think that though. I know their real, and I'll keep referring to The Book if anyone ever questions me. But is "werewolfian" a word? I know ect. is :D.
See, no one takes you seriously so i just lay low...Actually, some do. You just have to know where to look, and be patient.
If I was a werewolf, I'd use my abilities to make as much money as possible as quickly as possible. If 'the government' tried to dissect me, I'd hire a team of hotshot lawyers to sue them all. Easy.
Did you put any thought into this whatsoever? How would being able to turn into a wolf make you a lot of money quickly? Also, if the government tried to dissect you, you'd probably know about it after they capture you. I'm pretty sure you can't hire lawyers while being treated as a kind of foreigner with no rights.
Just another example of how my inability to think straight makes whatever I try to say sound different to how it played ou in my head. (I think this post is another one...)
I have the same problem. Just preread your posts before you submit. It'l save you a lot of trouble of deleting a post about "which toaster is the best" that you accidentally put under "how to properly chop wood".
DarkWolf
01-13-2007, 05:36 PM
I know ect. is :DDon't make me hurt you. :mad:
LV426
01-13-2007, 06:22 PM
it is not that easy...
Also everyone here has a point, like before, i said im 100% werewolfian, and all you guys were probably like, yea.. right of course he is... If i walked up to the President and said "IM a werewolf" he would probably smile and recomend therapy... See, no one takes you seriously so i just lay low...
If I had a nickel for every person that came here and said "I'm a real werewolf" and then never could prove it, I could have retired by now.
J.L.R.
01-13-2007, 07:37 PM
If I had a nickel for every person that came here and said "I'm a real werewolf" and then never could prove it, I could have retired by now.
Well LV, that's what happens when you retire your Blood Wolves. :)
SinacSupul
01-14-2007, 12:20 AM
Instead of asking the question why not seek the answer? I mean I've been here quite some time lurking in the shadows watching the boards reading the posts and for years I see people repeat the same question yet never actually seek the answer.
You want to know if werewolves are, were, or can be real then seek it out. Start in your homeland, request files from the three letter agencies, then look on the internet for the places with the most sightings, or best stories travel there. Ask people, pry, go that extra mile, borrow the key and open the door.
Personally if I were a werewolf I would come to this website claim to be a werewolf and laugh at everyone who said I wasnt or asked me to prove it. Being that phenomena is rarely caught on camera except some awesome black and white footage from the Nazi era I would assume that the energy in any form would be too much for a camera to catch anyway.
I've been here for a long time and I can say that I've never seen a single awesome bit of proof. Although I will claim to have seen a sort of were-Fox I have no proof except for the memory.
LV426
01-14-2007, 01:53 AM
Hey I've lived in 37 states. I've investigated unusual sightings, "werewolves", skunk ape, bigfoot, and just about anything in the local legends of where I've been and the only thin