How to become a lycanthrope, preferably a wolf

[DigitalNeo]

Im new to this site but i just cant get over it, i must know how to become a werewolf, i dont desire to know because i want to be a mindless killing machine or anything (which is a stereotype i think because it makes no sense that a wolf possessing human intellect, even subconciously, would totally become feral), but just to have a power and sense of nature that normal human life just cant satisfy.

I've read there are incantations (which i find acceptable) but i cant ever find ones that are proven to work or are confirmed.

I've read that if you sleep under the full moon in an open field on friday you will become a werewolf but i cant rely on such a method because its too out of the ordinary to keep secret and it seems to rely on a werewolf coming to you, which is unlikely for where i live because it doesnt fit the location for wolves.

I've read that you can make a pact with the devil or under go witch curses, but these are not viable to me due to my christian origins but i havnt read anything in the faith that its condemned to wish to become one, plus i dont really wanna mess with that kinda stuff.

Theres also being scratched by a wolf or werewolf but like i said, the location makes it unlikely to happen.

So if anyone has any tried and true methods of becoming one please tell me, i'll decide if its worth it. I understand if you dont wish to post it here due to privacy, its not something openly accepted by society and its personal.

[DL Lycan]

The only form of Lycanthropy your ever likely to achieve is the mental disease, AS most on this website will tell you, It's generally highly doubted physical shifting is possible. And for the love of god don't do anything stupid with wolfs bane etc just to try to getmore wolfy, If your after thrills then go ride a roller coaster.

[John 677808]

I would suggest you wait for a member called Pheonix to come up with his friends incantations/chants/rituals or fast for 3 months on fish/bread and then try a occult site I posted a link to. ;) You could also try drinking out of a Wolfs footprint I hear that may have some effect if you can find one.

[DL Lycan]

Whislt I've no objection to believing that, There is no way I will condone using a wolfs paw for anything! A wolf does not deserve to be hurt like that or be killed simply so you can try out some fantasy ritual. If you feel that you want this so much, then maybe I should take back my statement about ingesting Wolfs bane...

[John 677808]

I thought Wolf's Bane was poisonous

[Rylias Shadow]

It is.

[John 677808]

It is.

Then whats the point of eating it if it makes you ill. You're bound to act differently with something poisoning your mind. :rolleyes:

[DL Lycan]

I think you missed the point of me telling you to eat Wolfs bane... And it's not just poisonous, It's deadly.

[John 677808]

I think you missed the point of me telling you to eat Wolfs bane... And it's not just poisonous, It's deadly.

You're right I missed completely the angle you were coming from on the advice. I think your advising him to ingest wolfs bane so it will kill him and then he goes to wolf heaven or comes back as a wolf. That about right ;)

[blueeyes]

Wolfsbane (aka aconite, aka monkshood, aka the <i>aconitum</i> family) is a fairly toxic flowering plant with very distinct petals and leaves. It, particularly its roots, are extremely poisonous due to an alkaloid produced by the plant. This alkaloid can be absorbed through contact as minor as unbroken skin, and as a result, it is not recommended to mess with the plant needlessly or without gloves.

It's fairly useful in emergencies as a general poison since minimal dosage and preparation is needed. From a medical viewpoint, it can sometimes be used as a paralytic agent, to suppress fevers, or to reduce pain, although these are typically not very useful to those with access to modern medications.

Given how often it has been used to fatally poison individuals, including accidentally, I would suggest against using it for recreation. Given how few pre-1600 myths meaningfully mention aconite in any form, I would strongly suggest it is a less than useful method for inspiring said creatures.

Clinical lycanthropy, the delusional belief that one has become an animal (classically a wolf, as the name suggests), is currently understudied an rare. It is believed to occur from a combination of pre-existing conceptual scripts and some halucinatory psychosis. While I can't see why you would want to go psychotic, the causes of such are fairly well understood and documented (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis#Causes). Obviously, the conceptual scripts you get to do on your own. Some techniques involving magnetic interference with portions of the brain, similar to those used to trigger short-term savant syndrome, may be useful, but research on the matter is understandably limited.

As to an actual physical change, current understanding of human physiology requires either a preexisting if not active physical structure capable of dealing with the massive changes required, or some form of activity so far beyond current understanding as to be considered magical.
Neither of the above are likely to be found on the internet, although stranger things have happened, albeit not often.

[kakuyoiscool]

I heard that if u praay to lupa she will make u a werewolf. is that true?

[DL Lycan]

I sincerly doubt it.

[John 677808]

who is lupa ?

[Layira Aura]

Lupa is the wolf that supposedly suckled the twins Romulus and Remus. She is sometimes considered the wolf goddess or the goddess of the moon. But it depends what you read and which book you read.

[Lilith]

You're right I missed completely the angle you were coming from on the advice. I think your advising him to ingest wolfs bane so it will kill him and then he goes to wolf heaven or comes back as a wolf. That about right ;)

I could be wrong... but it sounded a lot like sarcasm from this end. ;)


The BEST way to become a werewolf is to wait for a full moon (preferably during Yule), find a wolf fang and drink rain water from a wolf's paw print. After drinking the water, perform the ancient moon dance (google it if you're not sure), and dance continuously in a circle around a fire for three hours.
However, you must be sure to do this in your bare skin.
Yes, that's right, let your furry willies hang free.
This is the most important part, as it shows Luna your dedication. :D

Seriously.

PS. Incase you were wondering, that was sarcasm, too.

[Hoplite]

okay if you want to be a werewolf so desparately...here's a shortcut

find a REAL werewolf and ask it to bite you....you'll surely turn into one within the next full moon...it's inevitable

come m8, becoming a werewolf is impossible....specia lly shapeshifting

[John 677808]

There is always the possibility of creating one by mixing human and wolf dna through advanced genetic technology. Still have to wait for someone to finance it. ;)

[DarkWolf]

There is always the possibility of creating one by mixing human and wolf dna through advanced genetic technology. Still have to wait for someone to finance it. ;)
We´d have to develop the technology for another, what, five hundred years? The two genetic codes are entirely imcompatible and can´t be combined genetically at our current technological stage. To make it happen we´d need to completely alter the existence of DNA/RNA to be a whole new entity. You´re looking at making a cell with a quadruple helix and extra base pairs - something far beyond our capabilities. The most advanced genetic cell on this planet has only a double helix and four base pairs - I doubt we´d suddenly discover a way to do several BILLION years worth of evolution in a single step.

[John 677808]

We´d have to develop the technology for another, what, five hundred years? The two genetic codes are entirely imcompatible and can´t be combined genetically at our current technological stage. To make it happen we´d need to completely alter the existence of DNA/RNA to be a whole new entity. You´re looking at making a cell with a quadruple helix and extra base pairs - something far beyond our capabilities. The most advanced genetic cell on this planet has only a double helix and four base pairs - I doubt we´d suddenly discover a way to do several BILLION years worth of evolution in a single step.

hmm I think 500 years is way too much, with our current alchemy abilities I would say more like 200 years at most. ;)

[DarkWolf]

hmm I think 500 years is way too much, with our current alchemy abilities I would say more like 200 years at most. ;)
You obviously don´t understand genetics and our current capabilities. We are absolutely no-where near that capability. It´s like explaining aircraft mechanics (our aim) to a caveman (where we are now).

[John 677808]

You obviously don´t understand genetics and our current capabilities. We are absolutely no-where near that capability. It´s like explaining aircraft mechanics (our aim) to a caveman (where we are now).

I tend to agree there, I dont understand genetics that well but I am sure it wouldn't take 500 years to create a human/wolf person. :cool:

[blueeyes]

Well, a werewolf through solely genetic means wouldn't really be particularly useful. For example, changing bone structure through biochemical means either takes years or ends up pulling all calcium in the bones in your body into your bloodstream. There's always the possibility humans will find away around that, but it's not reasonable to expect within a decent timeframe. I think DW's estimate of 500 years is a little low, to be honest - we're using shotguns to alter DNA as it is.
Human knowledge of genetic systems is just really lacking compared to other fields. Even the things we've got down in the books aren't really well understood - a lot of the attempts to genetically manipulate rodentia to mimic human genetic diseases have resulted in complete failures even those they should have worked.

You'd probably be better off looking at and sculpting macro-sized systems.

[John 677808]

Well, a werewolf through solely genetic means wouldn't really be particularly useful. For example, changing bone structure through biochemical means either takes years or ends up pulling all calcium in the bones in your body into your bloodstream. There's always the possibility humans will find away around that, but it's not reasonable to expect within a decent timeframe. I think DW's estimate of 500 years is a little low, to be honest - we're using shotguns to alter DNA as it is.
Human knowledge of genetic systems is just really lacking compared to other fields. Even the things we've got down in the books aren't really well understood - a lot of the attempts to genetically manipulate rodentia to mimic human genetic diseases have resulted in complete failures even those they should have worked.

You'd probably be better off looking at and sculpting macro-sized systems.

Perhaps you could have it so you could morph in a few minutes completely into a wolf/human through total cell change at once. Still I admit the technology to achieve such a biological wonder is still in a primitive stage and could take a long time. ;)

[DarkWolf]

Perhaps you could have it so you could morph in a few minutes completely into a wolf/human through total cell change at once. Still I admit the technology to achieve such a biological wonder is still in a primitive stage and could take a long time. ;)
A very long time. The energy for such a change would be more than the body can handle and the heat production from the transference of that energy would incinerate you to a crisp.

Basically such a thing would literally destroy the subject. In order to make the cells capable of such a trauma you´d need to rewrite them all to a level no thing has yet come near to on this earth. As has been stated we are just beginning to grasp the raw basics of genetics and still missing things. I agree that my estimate of 500 years would be low, but that´s me being optimistic. It could take many times that amount. Like I said it´s akin to expecting a caveman to learn aircraft engineering in a couple of days or quantum mechanics in a couple of weeks.

There´s also the physical difference in that a caveman´s brain is not capable, as an organ, to logically understand such information even if it did "learn" such things. We may very well have brains not yet capable of fully understanding (or to any major degree) the nature of genetics. We are a very long way off, to put it very simply.

[FreudianSlip]

Not to mention turning into a wolf fully would also give you the brain of a wolf.

And brain capacity.

Which isnt at all as a human and as such you'd pretty much end up a real animal for the rest of your existence.

If it was even possible

[timberwild]

Consider many creatures on this planet who shed their skins or change to blend in. We have the ability of superstrength (just ask the mother who lifted an eighteen wheel truck to rescue her child) and we definitely have the canine teeth.The question is one of psychology rather than physiology. Our wolf instincts ie - family and pack hunt with leaders and subordinates suggest we share a close bond with the beautiful wild creatures they are. Unfortunately, like the White shark, Hollywood has painted it as a savage beast for an easy buck!!

[John 677808]

Not to mention turning into a wolf fully would also give you the brain of a wolf.

And brain capacity.

Which isnt at all as a human and as such you'd pretty much end up a real animal for the rest of your existence.

If it was even possible

It is still debateable as to whether inteligeance exists on a physical or subconcious level. Anyway who says wolves are not as sentinetly smart as we are ;)

[FreudianSlip]

touché, guess my neurobiology classes pretty much make me biaised on the subjects.

Brain parts have different functions, and wolves brains have adapted in a different way than human.

Yet im no expert and cant really argue against that.

And actually we dont have superstrengh capabilities, we just use our regular strenght at a fraction of its capacity because pain stops us from going further than what we can achieve

And i believe though that its been mentionned that while yes, some animals blend in, molt and change shapes, its exceedingly rare if not completely untrue of mammals.

[Lilith]

Consider many creatures on this planet who shed their skins or change to blend in. We have the ability of superstrength (just ask the mother who lifted an eighteen wheel truck to rescue her child) and we definitely have the canine teeth.The question is one of psychology rather than physiology. Our wolf instincts ie - family and pack hunt with leaders and subordinates suggest we share a close bond with the beautiful wild creatures they are. Unfortunately, like the White shark, Hollywood has painted it as a savage beast for an easy buck!!

So here's my big problem with your claims.
Here, it's sounding a lot like you're trying to compare a human to a wolf to better explain the shifting capabilities.
You talk about a human's "superstrength" and our K-9 teeth, and then mention the family/pack.

My question for you is, why wolves? If you are going to base your shifting claims on the similarity between a human and another species, why would you choose a wolf?
Comparatively speaking, the two are almost nothing alike.
Wouldn't your argument be better suited towards comparing a human and a chimp?

I mean, honestly. As far as the super strength, not really. Yes, on rare occasions humans have performed mind-boggling stunts that are out of their everyday nature, but in no way does that make them any part wolf-like.
There are plenty of species in this wild animal kingdom that are known more for their strength than a wolf. In fact, even the average sized ape would be stronger than most large wolves, not to mention the fact that their muscles are MUCH more similar to humans.

The same goes for your entire K-9 teeth statement. Yes, humans do have a slight (and I mean extremely slight) similar dental structure, but again, it compares much more closely to an ape.
In fact, several entire cranial discoveries from prehistoric humans are so close in comparison to early ape species that archeologists are still debating how to categorize them (dental records and all).
I have yet to hear of such an official debate between early man-kind and wolf-like species. Though, please let me know if you hear of any. Anthropology fascinates me.

And finally, on to your pack claim. Yes, wolves and humans are both social creatures, but so are countless other species (don’t even get me started on the family orientation of several primates… apes included).

Honestly, it’s sounding a lot like you may have watched one too many teenage werewolf movies. Yes, wolves are noted for their strength, nobility, and cunning abilities; however, no matter how cool that may sound to you, shifting into one, or creating a hybrid species, most likely will never happen.
Even in 500 years.

So, if you’re honestly interested in the similarities between humans and other animal species, I would highly suggest reading more about the human anthropology.
If you’re interested in future biological enhancements, ask Dark Wolf. He seems to know a lot about it.
However, if you’re searching for a new way to bring your role-playing games to life, I’d suggest try another method.

[DarkHunter]

Here's a thought:

You cannot physically transform into a Werewolf. The Closest thing you CAN do is Therianthropy, but if you're not a therian to begin with then it won't happen. So go scamper back to the video games and leave us in peace.

[blueeyes]

It should be noted that brain size is a fairly useless way to measure intelligence, since the animals with the absolute largest brains around aren't particularly capable by human standards. Blue whales are smart animals, after all, but not typically considered several times smarter than humans. Even the example of a 'standard individual' among a given population may not be accurate : for example, back in the 70s some folk with neurological disorders were institutionalized from youth, and seldom learned normal speech despite peers with the same condition and mental capabilities exceeding in normal society.

Human higher functioning capabilities are not really things we consider as signs of a 'smart' individual. For example, 'shorting out' the frontal temporal lobe through tTMS (http://www.wisconsinmedical society.org/savant/rtms.cfm) has been known to cause better functioning on many of what I consider to be essential capabilities such as pattern recognition, language skills, and detail retention. This comes with some downsides, of course, such as a tendency to hyperlexia and reduced creativity, but these tend to be negatives for only a whole species rather than individuals.

Human understanding of neurology is just too basic these days to really even guess what would happen if you tried to reshape existing material. It's a concern, sure, but I think providing so limited a brain capacity as to prevent motor functioning as a statement of fact isn't quite fair.

[Lance_Kern]

I have composed a notebook that is fullof werewolf information. I use google and just type in werewolf/ves. I read it and put it in the folder.

[ThrasherCub]

I have something simmilar, though nothing in the book will work. I keep it because I am fascinated with the werewolf myth, which is what it is.

[moonlit_wanderer]

sorry to kill you're fun love, but phisical change just doesn't happen. it's all a mental thing. :cool:

[nighthowler]

this is funny wolfsbane is also used to control the affects of transformation from humanity to animality

[nighthowler]

oh btw a true werewolf would only have the instincts of the animal and the highend scents thats all p shifting is extremely rare i cant p shift but mental transformation is very possible :D

[LordNexthor]

i think about a possible theory. I think about mental image induction. This when a person through telepathy send a image to a person making believe that person that they are seeing a werewolf. Through the history there were persons that use that ability to do several things. One of the most famous comes from the former USSR during Stalin time. I can't recall the name but this guy used to get out of the building using his ability to induce an image of Stalin in to the guard's mind. when he passed through them they just see Stalin; but not this guy. I think that this happens on those socalled "p-shifter" they really don't change physically but their brain induce an image to any person have contact that they are watching a werewolf in transformation or a werewolf. That could explain when one or them is killed is reverted to the human form in a split second. because when is dead their brain stop inducing images to those around. Besides this could explain the issue about the energy needed to the transformation; because does not only require a lot the energy to transform physically; but to mantain that form could be more consuming; because thats not a natural form for a human. And part explain where some witness are asked what they see; they differ in some details; because the image induced is interpreted by the receiver's brain depending on his/her ideas/beliefs about what they are watching. This just a theory that I was thinking for some time. Maybe sound kinda crazy; but at least explain a couple things. Thats just my 2 cents. That's it all.

[MorganaFang]

Through the history there were persons that use that ability to do several things. One of the most famous comes from the former USSR during Stalin time. I can't recall the name but this guy used to get out of the building using his ability to induce an image of Stalin in to the guard's mind. when he passed through them they just see Stalin; but not this guy.

It may be to your Benefit to post where you got the information and the exact information that you found itself because this theory is pretty unbelievable still. Remember Physic energy and telepathy are still debated as being factional.

[sai-fujiwara]

o.o...

Alright, guy-who-put-up-the-thread, I will tell you outright, right at this moment, that werewolves are myths.

Which is the same as what half of these people are saying.

If you want to spent quatrillions of dollars to hire every scientist on the planet in order to forward the development of the genetic department then be my guest. Despite what you see on television, I'm sorry to say this but you most probably will not be able to input wolf dna codes into your own dna.

I'm sorry... but should I mention that there isn't a Santa Clause either? Because he's a myth too to just lure kids into being nice. (that perverted old stalker... < <=> >)

[FreudianSlip]

heh, of all the suggestions, sadly, i believe LordNexthor's is most plausible..

I mean, i dont know about that Staline guy, but hypnotism, suggestion and mesmerism (well, mesmerism is just a clever words for totally conning someone) could be employed to convince someone they've seen things that werent there heh.

The human mind under stress is like putty. Shape it and mold it ;)

[LordNexthor]

It may be to your Benefit to post where you got the information and the exact information that you found itself because this theory is pretty unbelievable still. Remember Physic energy and telepathy are still debated as being factional.
O.k, as you ask, mon ami. Here it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_Messing


ps=> sorry for use too much wiki, but is where i can find the info that i need quickly. :)

[MorganaFang]

O.k, as you ask, mon ami. Here it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_Messing


ps=> sorry for use too much wiki, but is where i can find the info that i need quickly. :)

Bah, it's still something. And sometimes those articles have citations of there info. Thank you ;)

[timphlosion]

I tend to agree there, I dont understand genetics that well but I am sure it wouldn't take 500 years to create a human/wolf person. :cool:
Quite right: see popular sciences article of "reanimating the extinct" through dna from skeletons, ect. so... If someone were to decode the human genome, you could synthesize the DNA and RNA through splicing. Which leaves on ly one question: what species would be the surrogate? :confused:

[DarkWolf]

Quite right: see popular sciences article of "reanimating the extinct" through dna from skeletons, ect. so... If someone were to decode the human genome, you could synthesize the DNA and RNA through splicing. Which leaves on ly one question: what species would be the surrogate? :confused:
Reanimation through DNA and creating powers of shapeshifting are very different.

Also if you want more credibility with posts try spelling "etc" properly.

[SilverCat]

the possibility of physically shifting, changes when the situation involves a curse as old as the human race. <theory>
i believe that a magickal force would be sufficient enough to transform someone into another form. i knew a native american who could change into an hawk of some kind...although i can't say its proven, due to the fact he would not let an outsider whitness the act of ritual.

[DarkWolf]

the possibility of physically shifting, changes when the situation involves a curse as old as the human race. <theory>
i believe that a magickal force would be sufficient enough to transform someone into another form. i knew a native american who could change into an hawk of some kind...although i can't say its proven, due to the fact he would not let an outsider whitness the act of ritual. but he came to me more than once in bird form, & dropped a written message to me. perhaps it could have been a trained raptor? but my magickal senses tell me otherwise.

he died last year in a car wreck...his father survives still & oftimes invites me to go on a camping weekend w/ him & some other tribe-mates.
Ugh.

Why do people treat this like a roleplaying site?

[Zombie]

Re: Human and wolf DNA splicing.

Didnt you hear the song from Loverboy? "Wolf and human DNA just wont splice!"

Yeah, so I stole it from South Park.... :D :D

-Z

[Child of Gaia]

Im gonna make this suggestion, somewhere, in ancient times, there was a race of wolves that was capable of balancing on its hind legs. like a grizzly bear, this wolf couldn't walk upright, but used this as a defence that, IM BIGGER THAN YOU, BACK OFF! this could lead to the werewolf myth, seeing as stories bleed to legends bleed to myths, bleed out entirely. To answer for why we haven't found the remains of such, say that they were hunted to extinction by man, because of our blood thirsty fears. Bones were similar in structure, except for the ankle, which makes it hard, if not impossible to distinguish between this race and another. oh, and the wolf might be a hyper-aggressive race as well.

[Ion Lowell]

i too yearn to become

[UNODRAGONE]

what is wolves bane? *guy calls me n00b* hey!

Wolfsbane has often been associated with the werewolf legend, although its uses vary from bringing on lycanthropy to banishing it.
These herbaceous perennials are chiefly natives of the mountainous parts of the northern hemisphere, growing in damp soils on mountain meadows. Their dark green leaves lack stipules. They are palmate or deeply palmately lobed with 5–7 segments. Each segment again is 3-lobed with coarse sharp teeth. The leaves have a spiral or alternate arrangement. The lower leaves have long petioles.

These are handsome plants, the tall, erect stem being crowned by racemes of large and eye-catching blue, purple, white, yellow or pink zygomorphic flowers with numerous stamens. They are distinguishable by having one of the five petaloid sepals (the posterior one), called the galea, in the form of a cylindrical helmet; hence the English name monkshood. There are 2–10 petals, in the form of nectaries. The two upper petals are large. They are placed under the hood of the calyx and are supported on long stalks. They have a hollow spur at their apex, containing the nectar. The other petals are small or lack completely. The 3–5 carpels are partially fused at the base.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/Aconitum_variegatum_ 280702.jpg

[UNODRAGONE]

Tell him to either prove it or bite you :)

[thenewbishop]

o.o...

Alright, guy-who-put-up-the-thread, I will tell you outright, right at this moment, that werewolves are myths.

Which is the same as what half of these people are saying.

If you want to spent quatrillions of dollars to hire every scientist on the planet in order to forward the development of the genetic department then be my guest. Despite what you see on television, I'm sorry to say this but you most probably will not be able to input wolf dna codes into your own dna.

I'm sorry... but should I mention that there isn't a Santa Clause either? Because he's a myth too to just lure kids into being nice. (that perverted old stalker... < <=> >)
I dis a gree just because yu cant prove they are real dos not mean they are not real

[MorganaFang]

I dis a gree just because yu cant prove they are real dos not mean they are not real

I hate hate hate hate that type of reasoning being posted. It's true but so flipping easy and juvenile to use in "the believers" defense alone.

For the love of something big and furry just come up with some kind of intelligent reasoning for why you believe, or why they actually exist (to be nice) and maybe, maybe, people will consider the possibility feasible.

[Okami no hi]

I know. For either party, NO MORE ONE LINERS!!!!!!!

[thenewbishop]

I hate hate hate hate that type of reasoning being posted. It's true but so flipping easy and juvenile to use in "the believers" defense alone.

For the love of something big and furry just come up with some kind of intelligent reasoning for why you believe, or why they actually exist (to be nice) and maybe, maybe, people will consider the possibility feasible.

I am sorry

I will defently look more in to a topic befor i post I did not mean to Piss any one off

[Okami no hi]

You're so mean. Meanie! lol

[Okami no hi]

Why, and how? 1 I thought you liked werewolves 2 If he was one he'd probably knock the crap out of you.

[DarkWolf]

Keep on topic, please. If you want a private discussion about brotherly beatings use the PM feature.

[KingFatman]

To become a lycan u can be bitten by one, the offspring of one that caries it, supposedly selling your soul to Satan works, and other way including chants, spells, ect... Any way I don't recommend any of them. Lycanthropy is not something you want. You may think you want it...but that is only because you don't have it. The added power ad heightened sense are not all u get... the pain comes with it. whether you want it to or not. You can never just pick and choose what you want to happen. You get it all. And unless you are strong enough to control it, it can break you....do what you wish...but i wouldn't advise it.

[thenewbishop]

what is your definition of pain. we talking phyical pain or mental anguish. if it is mental anguish some people may responde diffrently to it than others like being the lesser of two evils. comparied to what people are deling with now. being lycanthrope or a werewolf could be a welcome change for some people. It is all just how you look at it. what are you willing to give up for this.

[KingFatman]

For the love of something big and furry just come up with some kind of intelligent reasoning for why you believe, or why they actually exist (to be nice) and maybe, maybe, people will consider the possibility feasible.
U know why i believe they exist... I have felt the pain. I have felt my body changing. my ribs rearranging, my canines grow, a tail grow(that was weird when it first happened). I have gone through the changes. I have had the hunger. I have killed my own kind in battle. Felt the pain of a hatchet slicing into me. Barely coming out the winner. is a lot of the shit in movies and books fake. of course, but i know what has happened to me. You may say i am dreaming, but dreams don't create physical scars. You may say i am crazy. but mental disease doesn't make those around m see the same things. I don't really care if you don't believe. I know i will never change it unless i can put a lycan in front of you. And i don't care. I will believe what i have experienced is true, and u believe what you sincerely believe is true. I'm tired of fighting with people here. If some one wants to believe something then LET THEM!

next subject...
It is both metal and physical pain. You do eventually get used to it, somewhat, but it never goes away. It gets worse when you can't control anything. Only the strongest can control themselves. I can't completely control myself yet. When you can't control yourself you run the risk of killing loved ones while in transformation. I've come close to this... my first complete change I was with my girlfriend and my best friend that is basically a brother to me. I changed the first night of the full moon. I wasn't my strongest night so we were lucky. It took me about a month before i could recall the events and what i was thinking. I had to be chained and held at (silver) knife point. It was a short change only lasting about 25 min before i started to transform back. Had my friends not known what they were doing they or I could have been killed...not a pleasant memory....a still not the worse i hold

[Goldenstein]

:eek:

You have just thrown yourselves to the lions :D

[UNODRAGONE]

U know why i believe they exist... I have felt the pain. I have felt my body changing. my ribs rearranging, my canines grow, a tail grow(that was weird when it first happened). I have gone through the changes. I have had the hunger. I have killed my own kind in battle. Felt the pain of a hatchet slicing into me. Barely coming out the winner. is a lot of the shit in movies and books fake. of course, but i know what has happened to me. You may say i am dreaming, but dreams don't create physical scars. You may say i am crazy. but mental disease doesn't make those around m see the same things. I don't really care if you don't believe. I know i will never change it unless i can put a lycan in front of you. And i don't care. I will believe what i have experienced is true, and u believe what you sincerely believe is true. I'm tired of fighting with people here. If some one wants to believe something then LET THEM!

next subject...
It is both metal and physical pain. You do eventually get used to it, somewhat, but it never goes away. It gets worse when you can't control anything. Only the strongest can control themselves. I can't completely control myself yet. When you can't control yourself you run the risk of killing loved ones while in transformation. I've come close to this... my first complete change I was with my girlfriend and my best friend that is basically a brother to me. I changed the first night of the full moon. I wasn't my strongest night so we were lucky. It took me about a month before i could recall the events and what i was thinking. I had to be chained and held at (silver) knife point. It was a short change only lasting about 25 min before i started to transform back. Had my friends not known what they were doing they or I could have been killed...not a pleasant memory....a still not the worse i hold
can I see the scars? :)

[John 677808]

U know why i believe they exist... I have felt the pain. I have felt my body changing. my ribs rearranging, my canines grow, a tail grow(that was weird when it first happened). I have gone through the changes. I have had the hunger. I have killed my own kind in battle. Felt the pain of a hatchet slicing into me. Barely coming out the winner. is a lot of the shit in movies and books fake. of course, but i know what has happened to me. You may say i am dreaming, but dreams don't create physical scars. You may say i am crazy. but mental disease doesn't make those around m see the same things. I don't really care if you don't believe. I know i will never change it unless i can put a lycan in front of you. And i don't care. I will believe what i have experienced is true, and u believe what you sincerely believe is true. I'm tired of fighting with people here. If some one wants to believe something then LET THEM!

next subject...
It is both metal and physical pain. You do eventually get used to it, somewhat, but it never goes away. It gets worse when you can't control anything. Only the strongest can control themselves. I can't completely control myself yet. When you can't control yourself you run the risk of killing loved ones while in transformation. I've come close to this... my first complete change I was with my girlfriend and my best friend that is basically a brother to me. I changed the first night of the full moon. I wasn't my strongest night so we were lucky. It took me about a month before i could recall the events and what i was thinking. I had to be chained and held at (silver) knife point. It was a short change only lasting about 25 min before i started to transform back. Had my friends not known what they were doing they or I could have been killed...not a pleasant memory....a still not the worse i hold

I will not completely disagree with your claim on this, however it sounds more like the symptoms of a mental disease. :p

[FreudianSlip]

I agree, cant take a pic of the wolfman, start with a pic of your scar mate ;)

And the brain can play many tricks, put you in a sort of hypnotic transe, make you do crazy things like mutilation, make you think you've turned into a love wombat or something.

I mean, its been proven that if you stimulate some parts in the brain, you can believe you're smelling something like burnt toasts when there are none around. Yet you are really smelling them.


And yes, mental diseases can affect a large number of people heh. I mean, ever heard of mass hysteria?

With that said, im not gonna argue on the current story, just wanted to clarify that all of those symptoms and ideas CAN be induced by mental trauma or illness...

If needed and still argued against, ill whip up my DSM-4(The Shrink's bible, basically) and list the names of actual diseases which bears such symptoms ;)

[xxMatolfxx]

FreudianSlip is right people. No matter how much I hate to admit it he is right on that. Though I still believe there is such diseases and herbs and stuff that makes you believe you are doing such and such.

[KingFatman]

I agree, cant take a pic of the wolfman, start with a pic of your scar mate ;)

I only have one that hasn't healed completely. It's fresh. A stab wound up near my armpit. Some smart ass slayer tried to get me with a little silver throwing quill. If I can get a digital camera I'll send u the pic.

[RQ]

I only have one that hasn't healed completely. It's fresh. A stab wound up near my armpit. Some smart ass slayer tried to get me with a little silver throwing quill. If I can get a digital camera I'll send u the pic.I'm sure it's been mentioned in this thread already, but for your own sake, let me say it again. You are not a werewolf. You have never been, you will never be. I know you're only 18, so I'm sure you've got some kind of terrible personal problems or nobody has ever understood you or something, but what you have to realize is that you're only going to be ridiculed if you go around claiming to be a tr00 w3r3. Stop looking for attention from strangers on the internet by perpetuating an escapist fantasy. Those people who share your delusion are either dissatisfied kids, or mentally unstable single men living out in the boonies - associating with neither of which would be beneficial to you in your weakened mental state.

In other words, there's still time! Grow up!

[John 677808]

I only have one that hasn't healed completely. It's fresh. A stab wound up near my armpit. Some smart ass slayer tried to get me with a little silver throwing quill. If I can get a digital camera I'll send u the pic.

And this sort of stuff escapes going noticed, via the media and journalists. I suppose they chase you around train stations and deserted back streets throwing silver star spikes at you whilst wearing hooded garments. :D

[John 677808]

I'm sure it's been mentioned in this thread already, but for your own sake, let me say it again. You are not a werewolf. You have never been, you will never be. I know you're only 18, so I'm sure you've got some kind of terrible personal problems or nobody has ever understood you or something, but what you have to realize is that you're only going to be ridiculed if you go around claiming to be a tr00 w3r3. Stop looking for attention from strangers on the internet by perpetuating an escapist fantasy. Those people who share your delusion are either dissatisfied kids, or mentally unstable single men living out in the boonies - associating with neither of which would be beneficial to you in your weakened mental state.

In other words, there's still time! Grow up!

Even I in a angry state, wouldn't have said anything that harsh. :cool:

[thenewbishop]

And this sort of stuff escapes going noticed, via the media and journalists. I suppose they chase you around train stations and backstreets throwing silver star spikes at you whilst wearing hooded garments. :D


No i was wearing a ski mask and a jumpsute ;)

and they were steak knives

[xxMatolfxx]

wow you guys are bein a dick to king.

[DL Lycan]

Not really, To say otherwise would be to condone. I mean, *obviously* theres some secret hidden world that only hard to believe teenagers with no evidence post about on forums.

[RQ]

Not really, To say otherwise would be to condone. I mean, *obviously* theres some secret hidden world that only hard to believe teenagers with no evidence post about on forums.lol

[thenewbishop]

I would apologize if i saw some prof

[RQ]

I would apologize if i saw some profSome...professor s? Something being proffered?

Or did you mean 'proof'? Stop tormenting me with your lazy spelling. It makes my eyes bleed. You wouldn't like it if I made YOUR eyes bleed.

[KingFatman]

I'm sure it's been mentioned in this thread already, but for your own sake, let me say it again. You are not a werewolf. You have never been, you will never be. I know you're only 18, so I'm sure you've got some kind of terrible personal problems or nobody has ever understood you or something, but what you have to realize is that you're only going to be ridiculed if you go around claiming to be a tr00 w3r3. Stop looking for attention from strangers on the internet by perpetuating an escapist fantasy. Those people who share your delusion are either dissatisfied kids, or mentally unstable single men living out in the boonies - associating with neither of which would be beneficial to you in your weakened mental state.

In other words, there's still time! Grow up!

What's funny is I'm a pretty popular person in school, I have no more personally problems than the average person (but admittedly that's still a lot). I hated this bullshit when it happened but now I don't care. I am what I am. I could give a fuck less if I'm ridiculed. Fuck what other people think. I'm just giving my view and opinion on this shit. Also I wasn't chased around a train station. I was outside having a smoke when I heard the fucker, and before I could get to my hatchet he hit me. And there was no hood. Just a trench coat, not uncommon around here. I didn't even get a chance to retaliate myself. He was gone to fast and I didn't feel like a chase.

[RQ]

What's funny is I'm a pretty popular person in school, I have no more personally problems than the average person (but admittedly that's still a lot). I hated this bullshit when it happened but now I don't care. I am what I am. I could give a fuck less if I'm ridiculed. Fuck what other people think. I'm just giving my view and opinion on this shit. Also I wasn't chased around a train station. I was outside having a smoke when I heard the fucker, and before I could get to my hatchet he hit me. And there was no hood. Just a trench coat, not uncommon around here. I didn't even get a chance to retaliate myself. He was gone to fast and I didn't feel like a chase.I see. You're perfectly normal...were it not for the paranoid delusions? You are in need of professional help. That is not a joke, or a dig, or me being mean - that's fact. Don't ask me how I know, but you carrying around a hatchet might've been a tip. Your "I don't care what anybody thinks of me being a werewolf because I am, SRSLY" attitude is another. There are no such things as "slayers." Stop watching so much TV. I'm not lying when I say that no intelligent person believes your story, and furthermore none of us care to hear it from yet another person on this site. We've heard it. The story is old, so please - take the hint. Pack up your hatchets and joint pains and bugger off to your livejournal.

[Okami no hi]

I've heard of "slayers", but not from tv. I only watch like Will&Grace and Fraiser. There are people around town called were slayers, well, not called that specifically but their name is too hard to pronounce. But they are "slayer". And I am not going to say they chased me, the only reason they have any issues with me is cuz' I ran/bumped into one and ruined the guys paperwork. For some reason they are always fighting with the new Masonic church we just got recently. That I thought was weird. Oh yeah, back to my point. I have NEVER watched those crapy were and slayer movies as they never apealed to me when I first heard of them, but I have literally bumped into a "slayer", or at least that's what they say that they are.

[DL Lycan]

And heres me thinking a Slayer was a dwarf who's not very good at getting himself killed...Certainly as believable, I mean, how can the dwarfs (Blame Gamesworkshop about the plural) not have a mountainside stronghold hidden amongst the valleys?

[Okami no hi]

Dwarf??? You mean one of those people that are only 1 to 3 feet tall right. Where did that whole mountain thing come from? They live all around us, I knew one growing up. I wouldn't be rude to little people. And they like being called midgets more than little people or dwarfs.

[xxMatolfxx]

Ya but sometimes they get pissed at you if you refer to them as short in any way. I know this one short chick that always gets mad if you call her short. She says. "I am vertically challenged."

[UNODRAGONE]

Ya but sometimes they get pissed at you if you refer to them as short in any way. I know this one short chick that always gets mad if you call her short. She says. "I am vertically challenged."
or travel size :)

[Okami no hi]

or mini me :D

[xxMatolfxx]

HAHA. Travel size. Mini Me.
:cool: :cool: :banghead: :buttrock:
The two secret agents are using a new technique of breaking down walls to get to guys who are mentaly insane. See.