Any ideas???

[shaddow_hunter]

I wasn't sure where this would belong, so I thought i'd put it here and let it get moved if need be.
The point of this thread is to inquire about certain types of weres, often refered to as therianthropes. I have a frriend, Laura, who is quite possably one of them, and was wondering if anyone could teach me a bit about them.
There are certain things that have happened that I class as proof for thi theory, and request other oppinions about.
Ofcourse I am yet to see her change physically, but she has displayed numerous signs in her personality that resemble
werewolves, and I have witnessed her unknowingly act as if she is the animal in question. On several occasions, she has fallen asleep at a sleepover, and usually between the hours of midnight and four in the morning, she walks around the room on all fours, hands shaped as paws, making whining, yaping, growling and mewing noises, and even biting me. I have had numerous bruises to prove this, and I did not bite myself.
Some of the signs that have manifested in Lauras' human side are
things such as: Abitlity to stare at a full moon for hours on end in a trance-like state, not getting bored, and then being in an abnormally good mood when she is done; A hunger that comes up around certain luna phases, where Laura does not want to eat anything but rare stake, dripping with blood. Also, this hunger may last for days on end, and is not satisfied untill the above is consumed; Constant search for conflict (this may merely be a personality dissorder), both verbal and physical; Obsession with wolves; Dislike of most foods that arent meat, and of processed meats; Lycanthropic dreams and other similar ones.
I am open to all opinions.

[MorganaFang]

Therianthropy is a form of spirituality where you relate strongly to an animal spirit. Just for the record and does not really relate to lycanthropy which is a mental disease. Being a lycanthrope makes you a crazy person not a werewolf.

This thread would probably go in myth and lore, plus. :p

[shaddow_hunter]

So I've heard. But Laura denies that it's even there. She thinks it's all a joke that I made up to scare her. How is that a level of spirituality that she has achieved, if it comes out of it's own accord, and she isn't even aware of it.

[West]

Laura is stupid. Come on, getting on all fours and making animal sounds / biting people is ridiculous behavior. If we had a section of the site for bullshit (besides LARP *rimshot*) this would go there

I'll just put this in Therian.

[shaddow_hunter]

You can say this is bull all you want, West. But I know what I've seen, and I know that it's true. Why are all of you people such sceptics? Did any of you ever think that some of this stuff might be real? And ya know, you didn't have to put it so nicely. *sarcasm on that last sentence, incase you can't tell* Now I see why no one wants to express their opinion on this site- BECAUSE EVEN WHEN THEY DO, YOU PEOPLE ALL POINT AND LAUGH AND SAY THEIR FULL OF BULLSHIT. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:


....and now i've had my little rant.... :mad: :( :mad:

[UNODRAGONE]

You can say this is bull all you want, West. But I know what I've seen, and I know that it's true. Why are all of you people such sceptics? Did any of you ever think that some of this stuff might be real? And ya know, you didn't have to put it so nicely. *sarcasm on that last sentence, incase you can't tell* Now I see why no one wants to express their opinion on this site- BECAUSE EVEN WHEN THEY DO, YOU PEOPLE ALL POINT AND LAUGH AND SAY THEIR FULL OF BULLSHIT.

That is something I have as well noticed a lot in this site lately, people are being way to critical and closed minded. Do I believe in werewolves? I am curious or else why am I on this site right? I do believe that there is something out there beyond us and to think other wise, in my opinion, is ignorant we are not all mighty and we are not the only things that are in this world. Do I think your friend is a werewolf? Don't know but from what your describing something is up. Don't take what people say to heart the world is full of ignorant skeptics look at the people who made fun Franklin with his little kite and now whose laughing?

[MorganaFang]

....and now i've had my little

Most that are the over critical ones have been here since the late nineties and early two-thousands. We've seen it and heard it all and at some point even possibly believed. We're just a little jaded from the experience is all.

Then there is also the fact that most so called werewolves or people who come to present information how werewolves existing predominately write like this "i m real, we don't kill people but for you a**holes we'l make an aception!!!11!!1 :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: Werewolves exist!!! :buttrock:

Or

"I have evidence that werewolves exist, I've seen it but no one ever believes me!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: I've sat in on rituals and my family are gypsies so I know they were werewolf rituals. And they are not mean like everyone says and if humans found out about them they'd probably kill them!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: "

The first one is pretty self explanatory what is wrong with it so I won't go there right now but the second one since it rings fairly similar to your original post. Basically, it is annoying, because it does not really present evidence that werewolves are real, it just leaves the reader to have to believe the poster who we have no idea is credible or not. The post also is presented with little attempt at proper punctuation or grammar. Usually for a person to come off as credible the way they present themselves has to be really well done. If you want to be taken seriously you write with good grammar/punctuation and usually limit exclamation points and emoticons.

If you truly believe something, and care deeply in that belief why is it so important not to have it questioned? If you don't want that belief questioned in the first place then do not present it all? If you ask me, though, to have a faith in something question is a great test to see how strongly you believe.
I can understand wanting to share your opinions on the belief of werewolves (or knowing they exist as some prefer) but you have to be prepared for all reactions. You make a choice and you must deal with the consequences. Simple as that, but instead everyone fucking blubbers how the site mods are mean, and old members are mean because they attack your posts. No. We attack poorly written, badly thought out, ideas that are presented very juvenile. Even then if should not matter, if people believe strong enough than that is their thing and be happy with it, you have no one you need to convince but yourself.
The way people bitch and moan and whine after their posts getting "attacked" kind of show that the belief really is not that strong because you cannot find any other way to be convincing even to yourself. Sometimes not saying anything at all and keeping it to yourself or close friends says a lot.

Main point after my long rant: Get over it, learn to deal with all the consequences of choices you make. Yes not all outcomes are fair but you made that choice to go there in the first place.

Yes this is a werewolf site, but that does not mean everyone believes in real werewolves. Some would like to believe if good evidence is shown, like myself, but most are pretty much going to say it's fiction.

[shaddow_hunter]

I'm sorry if my threads are poorly written, but please try to remember that I am only fifteen and that I am not as exprienced as most.
Granted, Laura being like that does sound farfetched, but I was not trying to use this as proof for anything. I was simply asking if anyone knew what was happening to her. Seeing as vertually no one has even gone so far to try to elaborate on that, I would say it was a mistake to post this thread in the first place.

[NeonLightChild]

Evaluate her for clinlcal lycanthropy, or refer her to someone for that purpose since I'm guessing you're not a PhD. Don't worry, neither am I.

Wolves do not stare at the moon like she does...the fascination with the moon is purely human. If anything, wolves like to hunt during the new moon because the full moon gives off too much light for the prey. Or so I've heard.

Constant search for conflict is, again, human. Wolves are not out to get each other. They can and occasionally will bully another pack member, but not to death like people do.

Dislike of most foods that aren't meat...ok, who really enjoys eating their broccoli and spaghetti when someone always offers an alternative of steak? The more her parents cater to her whims of feeding her steak, the more she's gonna drag this out.

And ever thought that she could be joshing you when she denies your statements? Because if I hurt someone in any way while I'm out of it (such as kicking them when I'm asleep, which I've been known to do), I don't doubt it, especially if they have bruises to show me.

And being 15 has nothing to do with bad spelling and grammar. When I was in 4th grade, me and my best friend were the best spellers in the entire class...on the big slepping bee, the word that stumped me and helped him win was "multitudinous." So learn how to spell and don't use your age as an excuse to type like a flipping 5-year-old.

[MorganaFang]

I'm sorry if my threads are poorly written, but please try to remember that I am only fifteen and that I am not as exprienced as most.
Granted, Laura being like that does sound farfetched, but I was not trying to use this as proof for anything. I was simply asking if anyone knew what was happening to her. Seeing as vertually no one has even gone so far to try to elaborate on that, I would say it was a mistake to post this thread in the first place.

Sorry about having the edit thingy appear on your thread, I'm not use to being a mod again. :P

My idea about your first and second posts: If she herself does not think she is than she is not. Spirituality wise as well is a conscious thing, if she does not feel any spiritual connection than it is not there.

If you really experienced those moments of unconscious feralness by her, then maybe it's a form of seizure or form of sleep walking. If people are capable of sleep nympho-ness then they are capable of acting like a doggy.

I also agree with the Horse lady with any other possiblities :p

As for the age thing, I was not going to bring it up because I was expecting the same old "15 year olds can be more mature than some 40 year olds" from you. Though that's true in some cases, youth still has this certain edge naivety with some of the world. Trust me, been there done that ;)
Any despite being younger you're still taking english classes, if you're in an English speaking place. And you still are a conscious being who can observe that to convince people of what is common consider fiction. Sometimes you need to be trying to go above and beyond what people expect. In fact that's pretty much what it takes to survive in the competitive world. You can't just fall on the ground and cry "But I'm only 15!" Because very few people are going to help you back up and say "it's ok."

It may have been a mistake to post this thread but you chose to do it, next think before leaping :)

[ThrasherCub]

Now I see why no one wants to express their opinion on this site- BECAUSE EVEN WHEN THEY DO, YOU PEOPLE ALL POINT AND LAUGH AND SAY THEIR FULL OF BULLSHIT.
I express my opinion all the time and have done so on some pretty weird things such as the reality of bending a spoon right out of existance.

Your post wasn't opinion. It was, giving you the benefit of the doubt, a series of weird events that look entirely incredible that you proceeded to bring here after using not even a scrap of logic upon.

Of course we are skeptical. If we were not we'd end up being lead around by every idiot, liar, or innocently mistaken person to happen upon these forums. As a note, I believe werewolves might just exist - I've got no reason to believe that they don't. I just don't have any reason to believe that they do either.

[Gilenea]

It's possible that your friend goes through a thing called a "mental shift." Mental shifts are a common occurance amongst those who claim to be therianthropes. Or so I've heard. Might want to look into that.

Another possibility for your friend's denial (IF she is, in fact, a therian) could be due to the fact that it's something that's rather EXTREMELY personal to people. Much like talking about certain beliefs, people just aren't comfortable talking about it. No matter how good of friends y'all are, she may deny it because talking about it makes her uncomfortable.

But be careful trying to find "issues" with your friend when you're not in her head. You'll drive yourself nuts thinking about it and trying to find excuses for her odd behavior.

Gil

[LV426]

I seriously doubt your friend is a werewolf but that doesn't mean there isn't an issue. Her behavior of waking and walking on all fours could be that she is actually sleepwalking. I have family members that have done some very strange things when sleepwalking and yet they appeared to be awake but unresponsive to being addressed. The actions and sleepwalking came about because of severe stress. There are many cases of this.

Also her craving for red meat could actually be a dietary deficiency. Red rare meat actually supplies iron and high concentrations of protein. Some people have problems proccessing iron and protein from non-animal sources. I should know because I have this problem. If I go for more than 2 weeks without eating red meat I tend to get cravings and if I go longer I end up with dizzy spells and signs of anemia.

Staring at the moon could be a focal point for meditation. People can stare at the moon for long periods of time because the light is not as bright and painful and it makes for a giid focal point or directional symbol. Not to mention that it is quite beautiful and fascinating to observe.

If your friend isn't acknowledging these anomalies in her behavior then it could mean that she is using them to mask a deeper issue in her life and may not feel comfortable telling you all of the details. Counseling may be in order or maybe introduction to a neutral party that she can talk to freely.

[shaddow_hunter]

Thankyou for your say on what the issue with Laura may be. Although your ideas have prety much confirmed what I Have presumed since I first noticed these things in her, three years ago, it has been a great help to hear it from those who have a better understanding of psychology and the likes than I do. Now that the matter has gone as far as it is likely to go, I request that it be closed now.
Unless, ofcourse, someone else has a differing oppinion.
>Shaddow_hunter