Random questions about werewolves and vampires

[timphlosion]

Simply that: random questions...(dont ask)

[timphlosion]

Simply that: random questions...(dont ask)
Okay I am new at this forum so please excuse if the way I am doing this is not right.
Ok, here goes:
Question 1:
Do vampires get AIDS and HIV?
Do werewolves get Rabies, distemper, and kennel cough?

[MorganaFang]

Okay I am new at this forum so please excuse if the way I am doing this is not right.
Ok, here goes:
Question 1:
Do vampires get AIDS and HIV?
Do werewolves get Rabies, distemper, and kennel cough?

I have no idea but those questions hilarious.

By the way, you can edit your original posts to include what else you might add. Then you don't have to double post.

[The_Paladin]

Okay I am new at this forum so please excuse if the way I am doing this is not right.
Ok, here goes:
Question 1:
Do vampires get AIDS and HIV?
Do werewolves get Rabies, distemper, and kennel cough?

Dunno about Werewolves BUT Vampires, being immortal beings to age would, I should so think, that they'd be immune to diseases like AIDs or so...if I'm wrong...well..I dunno. ^^;;;

[BCvonRayfus]

Well, think of all the blood vampires drink...same deal with werewolves I guess, all the human flesh eating and what-not, how could they NOT be immuned to AIDS? If they're not...dang, that sucks. :p

[UNODRAGONE]

Well, think of all the blood vampires drink...same deal with werewolves I guess, all the human flesh eating and what-not, how could they NOT be immuned to AIDS? If they're not...dang, that sucks.

I think vampires are like mosiquitos, if they can't get AIDS niether can them :) and werewolves I think can get it cause both dogs can get rabies and humans can get sick from it as well :)

[Okami no hi]

How about fleas?

[UNODRAGONE]

fleas can't get AIDS either but I think fleas would sense werewolves are too weird and not bother

[Fire_Lupa]

Being Immortals, there are only a few things they can catch like for instance Werewolves I've heard the fleas are a real killer I've never read or heard about rabies or any of the others, & as far as I know the only thing that Vampires can get is a real bad case of sunburn....as someone already said vampires immunities keep the pretty healthy for the undead!!!

[fuzzalemur0]

fleas are worst damn creatures in the entire world...

[Fire_Lupa]

fleas are worst damn creatures in the entire world...

I hear ya!!! :mad:

[thenewbishop]

I was wondering if lycanthrope is considered a disease then can other animals become weres If they caught the disease?

[xxMatolfxx]

So much as I know that only humans can catch this "Disease".

[UNODRAGONE]

I was wondering if lycanthrope is considered a disease then can other animals become weres If they caught the disease?
didn't that happen to the family dog in the movie Cursed?

[thenewbishop]

didn't that happen to the family dog in the movie Cursed?
Yes that is what got my thinking

[Canis Lupus]

If 2 werewolves mate, is it considered bestiality?

[xxMatolfxx]

Werewolves in their transfered state have no genitals. In human form they could. They would make a pure blood if they are both full bloods themself. If not then they would make a quarter blood I think. I don't know. The way the disease is spawned in werewolf for is throught the saliva or in some cases through scratches.

[RQ]

Werewolves in their transfered state have no genitals.I love how you can speak bullshit with such authority.

[BCvonRayfus]

If I become a werewolf, I'm gonna bite a DUCK and see what happens later. :D Hehe, duckwolf...or...were-duck-wolf :p

[xxMatolfxx]

I love how you can speak bullshit with such authority.
To me it's not bullshit. I don't take it completly serious. I do believe in a lot of stuff though. I have seen a lot of shit. Nope no point in trying to prove my point because I can't unless people took a stroll with me at night. Any plain old night around my town stuff happens. Even if you don't think it happens it does. My town is infested with them I sware. No point though as I said. I just myswell keep my opinoins to myself. I have been flamed on here several times. Even though it is kind of fun for me to see how people do it. I must say god or morgana is the best at it so far. I am not critisizing them either. I have respect for them and their opinoins. They only stand up in what they believe in and I do the same it just happens that we believe in different things. The fun thing about it is though watching them take apart this entire paragraph sentence by sentence just to prove a point. How much time does that take. Though I am saying this when I type this really long ass paragraph worth of bullshit as you say. This is not meant negative against you or anyone. So don't take it the wrong way. I am just sayin' what I think at the point in time I wrote this. Then again I feel different everyday about things. I try not to flame people on here. Actually, I don't think I have. I might of but they probally deserved it or I just had enough of their shit about something. That is how most people feel about people and their opinoins though. This is the end of this very long thing. Bye :) .

[Okami no hi]

If I become a werewolf, I'm gonna bite a DUCK and see what happens later. :D Hehe, duckwolf...or...were-duck-wolf :p


Or you a vampyre and bite a duck...Count Quakula :D

[RQ]

To me it's not bullshit. I don't take it completly serious. I do believe in a lot of stuff though. I have seen a lot of shit. Nope no point in trying to prove my point because I can't unless people took a stroll with me at night.There are no such things as werewolves. You're 15, and have an over-active imagination coupled with a tendency toward escapism and a desire to feel special. That's the truth. If you ever become an adult you'll realize that. Your town is not special. Nothing out-of-the-ordinary happens there. You can believe in something all you want - that doesn't make it real.

[Okami no hi]

Atually, a very popular psychic says if people bleive enough in something that it will be. Psychic Sylvia Browne. She says that bigfoot and Lochness are real only because people beleive in them to their point of existance. People actually made them. And now, even if you don't beleive them, you could end up seeing them because they are real. I can't remember what the process is called, but it is like they are made out of matter from the minds of humans and our thoughts or something like that. It's in one of her many books. And many 40 year old house wives beleive her so it isn't a bunch of tweens.

[RQ]

Atually, a very popular psychic says if people bleive enough in something that it will be. Psychic Sylvia Browne. She says that bigfoot and Lochness are real only because people beleive in them to their point of existance. People actually made them. And now, even if you don't beleive them, you could end up seeing them because they are real. I can't remember what the process is called, but it is like they are made out of matter from the minds of humans and our thoughts or something like that. It's in one of her many books. And many 40 year old house wives beleive her so it isn't a bunch of tweens.Psychics need to eat and pay their bills too. Don't think they don't tell you anything they don't think you want to hear, even "bad" news. That kind of Deepak Chopra universal-realization crap is bullshit.

Whether its you, Matrix, or a bunch of bored housewives, I invite you to wish as hard as you want, but some problems are irreparable. No matter how hard the paraplegic wishes, s/he will still never walk again if the damage is bad enough. No matter how hurt you are, people don't come back from the dead. No matter how cool it would be, werewolves do not exist.

Do you really think that if people had the power to create reality through a sheer force of will and belief, that they would wish into reality werewolves? Are you fucking kidding me? Once you grow up you start to notice real problems. Werewolves, or the lack thereof, are not high on the bloody list.

[Okami no hi]

Umm...I never really said I beleived the psychic. I was just bringing up her thoughts on the matter and the fact that even so called mature people beleive it. Even if it is true I probably wouldn't beleive her cuase I think she, wait...know she is just really in it for the money. Wether she beleives it or not I don't care, just don't mistake me for beleiving in what she says when I never said that I did.

PS. I just reread this and I think I sound mean. Sorry, it's isn't ment to sound that way.

[xxMatolfxx]

Yes someone replied to it. To bad it wasn't god or morgan. :( . Ohh well. By the way I am as normal as I can be outside of this. Then again why am I doing this. I don't need to back myself up to the likes of you. HAHA. lol. I can't be serious about this. He is right I am only 15 what do I know. That will change in a month. Ohh well I can't change his opinoin because I can't get a camera photo. They move to fast :) .

[RQ]

She is right I am only 15 what do I know. That will change in a month. Ohh well I can't change her opinoin because I can't get a camera photo. They move to fast :) .Fixed.

[thenewbishop]

Ohh well I can't change her opinion because I can't get a camera photo. They move to fast : ).
Try asking them politely to stop or slow down.

[UNODRAGONE]

Try asking them politely to stop or slow down.
or throw food near them o they stop to eat then take the pic :)

[Bone and Soul]

DAMNED FLEAS!!!!!!!!! they ITCH so BAD!!!!!!! :banghead:

[xxMatolfxx]

Yea at times I swear I have fleas. I don't though I can't get them. I don't think I can...

[UNODRAGONE]

Yea at times I swear I have fleas. I don't though I can't get them. I don't think I can...
oh yes ya can lol

[xxMatolfxx]

You have had them to apparently.

[UNODRAGONE]

You have had them to apparently.
my loving four legged friend likes to share them with me :)

[xxMatolfxx]

Yes mine to and others I randomly see.

[Bone and Soul]

Theres A LOT of media of the disputes between Werewolves and Vampires (Underworld, Van Helsing, Werewolf: the Apocalypse, Etc.)lately and I was wondering, is there sufficient folklore that can back this up or is it something created by Hollywood for something new because they were bored? Please let me know.:confused:

[fuzzalemur0]

i'm pretty sure its just a hollywood scheme to introduce a new plot... I havent heard much about werewolf vs Vampire in history...

[Moon_Slave]

me either but i think that werewolves would fight because thats there nature and they got one think right the werewolf families and true and close to each other..

[fuzzalemur0]

me either but i think that werewolves would fight because thats there nature and they ot one think right th werewolf families and true and close to each other..

what?:confused:

[crimson arrow]

They do fight, just not on the large scale like in some of the movies. In fact, not all of them hate one another at all. While the werewolves were slaves at one time, it became apparent that the vampires couldnt stop them from leaving their posts in the daylight and disappear. Other vampires were slaughtered during the full moon. Eventually an unwriten aggrement was reached, and the werewolves were freed. Some werewolves stayed because they had befriended the vampires. Some vampires slayed their old slaves to prevent them from leaving. But for the most part, everyone was okay for a large period. Some vampires still wish for the old days or for the werewolves to be wipped out. There are also werewolves that seek retribution for their fallen comrades. Other times, a werewolf or a vampire might try to feed on the other unknowingly. But for a large portion, there is peace, sort of.

[Moon_Slave]

They do fight, just not on the large scale like in some of the movies. In fact, not all of them hate one another at all. While the werewolves were slaves at one time, it became apparent that the vampires couldnt stop them from leaving their posts in the daylight and disappear. Other vampires were slaughtered during the full moon. Eventually an unwriten aggrement was reached, and the werewolves were freed. Some werewolves stayed because they had befriended the vampires. Some vampires slayed their old slaves to prevent them from leaving. But for the most part, everyone was okay for a large period. Some vampires still wish for the old days or for the werewolves to be wipped out. There are also werewolves that seek retribution for their fallen comrades. Other times, a werewolf or a vampire might try to feed on the other unknowingly. But for a large portion, there is peace, sort of.

true true

[Shield_Wulf]

They do fight, just not on the large scale like in some of the movies. In fact, not all of them hate one another at all. While the werewolves were slaves at one time, it became apparent that the vampires couldnt stop them from leaving their posts in the daylight and disappear. Other vampires were slaughtered during the full moon. Eventually an unwriten aggrement was reached, and the werewolves were freed. Some werewolves stayed because they had befriended the vampires. Some vampires slayed their old slaves to prevent them from leaving. But for the most part, everyone was okay for a large period. Some vampires still wish for the old days or for the werewolves to be wipped out. There are also werewolves that seek retribution for their fallen comrades. Other times, a werewolf or a vampire might try to feed on the other unknowingly. But for a large portion, there is peace, sort of.

That's a good story, sounds like it's from Underworld.
Okay, since some people don't like to read into Ancient Myth from different cultures I will say same thing here.
1: The only connection Werewolves and Vampires have is that in same believes if you where a Werewolf in life you would become a Vampire in death.
2: Vampire in Myth are Undead or the Live Dead (how ever you want to say it). They were the corpses, the Revenant of some one that was once a live(and some type they where a living Witch or some one that did "Black Magic" in some Cultures).
3: They would come out mostly at night(some could survive in day light but did not attack). Though they are know for drinking blood in myth Vampire where also know for going after the Life Force of people, semen of young men or the milk from the breast of women. Some went after the unborn child still in a women and some just went to get normal human food at times.
Vampires like Dracula are not in old myth any where he was the first of his kind. Vampire don't have an Order or deals with Werewolves. Vampire like in the Myth are not the Sexy, smart things you see in the movies or in Anne Rice book. They are undead corpses of people(though some where said to be really beautiful in some stories).

[fuzzalemur0]

ummm i haven't ever seen a vampire in my life.... i probably wouldn't attack one unless it attacked me first and i don't think im honoring my fallen comradsor what ever...

[LV426]

Ok now that you've all spread around complete and utter bullshit how about you grow up and get your head out of your ass. Vampires don't exist, neither do werewolves, so therefore vampires could not have kept werewolves as slaves and there can't be a vampire/werewolf war.

[Goth Girl]

Sure there can, it's called www.monstersgame.com :)

[Moon_Slave]

Sure there can, it's called www.monstersgame.com :)

i so want to play that game

[fuzzalemur0]

i acually agree with some of LV426 said, not the i dont believe in werewolf part or my head stuck in my ass, but that story does sound like some fictional DnD story or something as i said before i don't think i'm Honoring my fallen comrades or whatever...

Just my opinion....

[lupine-bianca]

hmmm...

I'm just wondering, how do we KNOW any of this?

I mean, sure, histry of werewolves and vampires go back far in time, but they change so much... The idea of them has evolved since like, ever, and they continue to evolve...how do we sort out the myth from the fact (if any of it is indeed fact.)
I mean, werewolves started out as the great king lycan who was transformed into a wolf, but I don't remember any mention of how he passed on this ailment. Then there were remus and romulus, sort of wolf people. Many centuries later came the loupgaroo, simple wolf-people who lived in the bayous and had clothes, familys, parties, just liek us. Finally we come down to modern day werewolve, regular people who are bitten by werewolves and then transform into wolves at the full moon.
It's the same with vampires, we had the original, vlad the impaler, whose grave was never found. Then dracula, the vampire whodonned a cape and drank the blood of young virgins. We end up woth the vampires you see in underworld, vanhelsing, and those kind of movies. we even have those in the vampire chronicles by anne rice, which are completely different.
SO who do we believe? Who is right?
In my opinion, lycanthropy and vampirism in history and the present, are described as some sort of virus, as I've said before. This "virus" (because it is undiscovered/unidentified/nonexistent) affects its host in a many different ways.( see my posts in the "are vampires real" thread.)
Also, I'd like to put my best thoughts forward ont hat first question, can vamppires get aids, werewolves get rabies?
I don't think that vampire can get Aids. Vampires are supposed to be immortal/nonhuman/undead beings. So how could they be affected by human disease? Also, I think that their blood would sort of be a toxin that filters out the disease... I get this from the anne rice novels, but I don't "Really" know because I don't know what myths are true, (or even if vampires exist), but I am answering this question as if I truly believed vampires and werewolves could/do exist.
I don't believe that werewolves could get rabies because, although they're not exactly immortal, from what I understand, they heal pretty fast and their immune system could probably fight offf almost any virus effectively.

Now it's my turn to ask a question, I want to see what other people think...
Why are werewolves supposed to be allergic to silver?
(I think that it's because silver is like the moons "color/metal/whatever you want to call it, and since the moon controld werewolves shape/feeling/ like everything werewolfy about them, it would only make sense that it could also have the power to destroy the werewolf...but wouldn't that mean that if silver was the moon, gold would be the sun, and then vampires would be allergic to gold? or does gold have no attachment to the sun, nor silver to the moon?)

hugs,
BRAT!

[xxMatolfxx]

I've already shown my opinoin. I don't think that they are affected by it. Just the sever of the head in werewolf for, or just straight out kill them in human form.

[chasingmidnight]

I think if vampires and werewolves do exist, then the garlic thing is definitely a myth! Silver bullets is probly a myth too. But then again... I really don't know. I need to meet a vampire...

[xxMatolfxx]

Yea I don't believe in either of those. Thought he sun thing is something I do believe in. That and the only way to kill a werewolf is to decapitate it. That or kill it in human form.

[chasingmidnight]

I think that to kill a werewolf, you'd have to either wait for it to die of old age, or stab it through the heart with something silver. Vampires probably holy water would be very bad.

[xxMatolfxx]

Don't believe in the silver thing. Though a stab to the heart would be difficult. A werewolf's bones are tough and what surrounds the heart.

[chasingmidnight]

You sure? I've never heard that before. Even if the silver bullet thing isn't true, I do believe that silver in general would weaken them or cause pain.

[BlackRosePhantom]

me either but i think that werewolves would fight because thats there nature and they got one think right the werewolf families and true and close to each other..

Actually, wolves only fight each other or non-pray when they feel they are being threatened or for territorial reasons. As for humans, they would only fight vampires out of fear and if they had had over 30 of them to 1 vampire, so werewolves probably would fight a vampire just for the h@ll of it, there would have to be reasoning behind it.(do not take this the wrong way; I do not believe that werewolves or vampires do exist)

[xxMatolfxx]

He is right about wolves. There has only been a few recorded events where a wolf kills a human. All, in which, the person was threatening the wolf. If you just leave them alone they won't bother you.

That is why I think they are smarter than most animals. They pick there fights and they won't fight unless provoked so they live a lot longer.

[chasingmidnight]

Okay I am new at this forum so please excuse if the way I am doing this is not right.
Ok, here goes:
Question 1:
Do vampires get AIDS and HIV?
Do werewolves get Rabies, distemper, and kennel cough?

I'm not sure that those questions were serious, :p , but, I doubt vampires could get HIV because you have to get that from dirty needles or other things that go directly into your blood stream. Werewolves probably could get rabies, too... :D
I agree, though. Those questions are completely hillarious and that makes my day...

[DarkWolf]

I'm not sure that those questions were serious, :p , but, I doubt vampires could get HIV because you have to get that from dirty needles or other things that go directly into your blood stream. Werewolves probably could get rabies, too... :D
I agree, though. Those questions are completely hillarious and that makes my day...
Typically HIV cannot be ingested by just swallowing infected blood as the stomach acids can kill it. However, any abrasions or cuts or such as in the mouth, throat, or lining of the stomach can allow infection. It has less risk than sex but still a significant risk. It can also be passed through any bodily fluid - so dirty needles or no you can still get infected even without any bloodstream contact.

I think the question was orientated as to whether a vampire was immune to the virus not whether it can be passed to them. As in would they ever have to worry about HIV (and consequently AIDS)?

[chasingmidnight]

I see...

[BlackRosePhantom]

I've seen some pictures of people with AIDS that were in a hospital bed, and, this is just speculation, they look like a "Hollywood" vampire that hasn't gotten any blood for a hundred years. Coincidence, maybe, maybe not, dun, dun, dun...

[Rele WT]

Actually Midnight, a dirty needle wouldn'tgive you HIV at all, as it dies in the temperature of regular air, it gets too cold and instantly dies. So unless the room you were in was the same temperature as a human body a dirty needle couldn't give you HIV. I think.

[chasingmidnight]

That's where you're wrong. A dirty needle is one of the main things that can give you HIV. For example if you were doing drugs with a number of other people and let's say the person before you using the needle had HIV, chances are you'd get it.

[Rele WT]

Well only if it was right away, because it's in the needle, so it keeps itself warm, but after it cools off you can't ger HIV from it.

[chasingmidnight]

That's what I mean though. They don't take much time in between if they're taking drugs.

[Rele WT]

Okay, I was saying like if you just found a needle or something it wouldn't give you HIV.

[chasingmidnight]

Oh, no that wouldn't. I knew that.
besides who would use a needle they found laying around?!! lol. :D

[Rele WT]

If they were doing drugs, then they wouldn't care...

[BlackRosePhantom]

Actually Midnight, a dirty needle wouldn'tgive you HIV at all, as it dies in the temperature of regular air, it gets too cold and instantly dies. So unless the room you were in was the same temperature as a human body a dirty needle couldn't give you HIV. I think.

Bacterium and Viruses might die from the air in our atmosphere and the lack of heat, but they actually go into a state like hibernation where they are dormant while out on a surface. In this state they can last for days at a time, so it can be pass though unsterilized needles and such.

[Rele WT]

Yes, I know that, I just misundertood her.
But, I don't really think that vampires or werewolves could get HIV.

[dracosn]

Possibly the human half of the equation but I doubt it considering the virus in question. Have there ever been a record/ book with a vampire or werewolf that has died of a human disease?

[BlackRosePhantom]

Possibly the human half of the equation but I doubt it considering the virus in question. Have there ever been a record/ book with a vampire or werewolf that has died of a human disease?

Do you count murder as a disease? Some might speculate it as a disease of the mind.

[chasingmidnight]

I think that it depends on why they decided to murder someone. If they did it because they wanted to kill some random person, that would be a disease of the mind. But if it was to save someone they loved then that wouldn't be a disease. That would just be desparation.

[Chemical]

I don't think that murder counts as a disease in quite the way people are talking about, but when you look at murder as being a disease of the mind, then suicide would be a disease too.

[Goth Girl]

How is murder a disease? It's just people being stoopid just cause maybe they have had a tough life or are jealous or what-not. They're just idiots. As for suicide, it itself isn't a disease but it is often caused by the disease known as depresion. Not as many people committ murder and are depressed so I really don't think murder is part of a disease or even is one. Just my thoughts.

[BlackRosePhantom]

I know that murder isn't literally a disease. When I said that 'murder being disease of the mind', I meant when the person themselves really doesn't like killing, but they can't help themselves. Like in mythology, werewolves have this overpowering force inside them that forces them to kill without their consent. That is what I mean.

[Hamster_Mommy]

I like the legends of werewolves better that depict the werewolf having freedom of choice in their actions be them vicious or kind acts. I don't think werewolves would be impaired from making their own decisions, unless their werewolfry was some form of possession, or they where impaired as humans to begin with.

[chasingmidnight]

I had meant that you'd have to be mentally ill to kill someone unless in self-defence.

[moonlight-walker]

i dont think werewolves could get rabies. i do think that over time , some get a bit crazy and risk exposing themselves to the world.

[Hamster_Mommy]

i dont think werewolves could get rabies. i do think that over time , some get a bit crazy and risk exposing themselves to the world.

I figure that would depend on the werewolf as an individual, and how they started as a werewolf.

[ulfheadnar]

I had meant that you'd have to be mentally ill to kill someone unless in self-defence.

How's that work? Explain war, assassination, coup de etat, revolution, etc.

What's wrong with killing? Soldiers do it because a lot of people can't or won't. Does that mean that soldiers are all mentally ill? Or does that simply mean that death by proxy doesn't make you guilty? Simply put, murder is a constant and pervasive thing that humans do. We sometimes judge it as bad and sometimes as good. The only qualifier is the context and which side is writing the history books.

It could be argued that killing for the common good can be one of the highest callings there is. You would literally be helping people that can't help themselves. Like a shepherd over sheep. I see no reason that a reasoning werewolf couldn't be an avenging force that could kill for the common good. In this day and age, with justice being an uncommon thing, it might be needed.

Those that say that violence never solves anything are living with their heads in the sand. Tell it to the Phonecians and the American Indians. Tell it to any culture that was wiped out or assimilated into another throughout history.

[BlackRosePhantom]

How's that work? Explain war, assassination, coup de etat, revolution, etc.

What's wrong with killing? Soldiers do it because a lot of people can't or won't. Does that mean that soldiers are all mentally ill? Or does that simply mean that death by proxy doesn't make you guilty? Simply put, murder is a constant and pervasive thing that humans do. We sometimes judge it as bad and sometimes as good. The only qualifier is the context and which side is writing the history books.

It could be argued that killing for the common good can be one of the highest callings there is. You would literally be helping people that can't help themselves. Like a shepherd over sheep. I see no reason that a reasoning werewolf couldn't be an avenging force that could kill for the common good. In this day and age, with justice being an uncommon thing, it might be needed.

Those that say that violence never solves anything are living with their heads in the sand. Tell it to the Phonecians and the American Indians. Tell it to any culture that was wiped out or assimilated into another throughout history.

Though I have to agree with you on just about everything, there is one thing that I think you're confusing. I think chasingmidnight was referring to a serial kill or just someone that kills for no reason at all, besides the "excitement" it give them. People like that are psychopaths that are "mentally ill" as in the term chasingmidnight was using.

[demonic_monkey]

Murder in itself is multifaceted. It is a disease when the person committing the murders does it simply for the thrill of killing or kills because he/she kills one person and has to keep killing just to keep his/her self out of prison. Serial killers, for them murder is a disease. The same applies to any killer of multiple people.

If a person kills only once (by accident, in self-defence, etc.) and never kills again, it would not be considered as a disease, unless that single kill threw the into the boiling pot called insanity.

As for soldiers, I am a soldier and what we do is not technically construed as murder but rather "defending our country." When you kill for your country, the blood is on the hands of its rulers, not your own. So would they be the ones with the disease?

Then there are the cases where killing is all the person has ever known. This doesn't happen much anymore but that, too, would be under question. Those cases could go either way.

It all depends upon the person.

[silvr_werwulf]

fleas are worst damn creatures in the entire world...

I agree, full heartedly

[BlackRosePhantom]

Murder in itself is multifaceted. It is a disease when the person committing the murders does it simply for the thrill of killing or kills because he/she kills one person and has to keep killing just to keep his/her self out of prison. Serial killers, for them murder is a disease. The same applies to any killer of multiple people.

Did you get the highlighted section from Futurama (sorry if spelled incorrectly)?

If a person kills only once (by accident, in self-defence, etc.) and never kills again, it would not be considered as a disease, unless that single kill threw the into the boiling pot called insanity.

So, you're saying that a person could be so weak (mentally) that when they kill someone, their actions just torments their minds until they go nuts, right? I'm not sure if there is anyone that weak in this world (but if there is, I feel sorry for them).

As for soldiers, I am a soldier and what we do is not technically construed as murder but rather "defending our country." When you kill for your country, the blood is on the hands of its rulers, not your own. So would they be the ones with the disease?

In a sense, but it's really just a disorder, and that disorder is called A.I.D.S. (Accumulated Ignorance Disorder Syndrome). It's a very terrible disorder that makes one retarded when they are taken away from the real world in which everyone else lives in. It's not fatal, but it is the reason why most people in power don't keep the promises that they made when the people elected them. Only the few that still choose for their political career to not take over their life don't gain this disorder. It's a very sad disorder indeed.

Then there are the cases where killing is all the person has ever known. This doesn't happen much anymore but that, too, would be under question. Those cases could go either way.

It all depends upon the person.

Of course, but this is getting off topic (AKA, the title). So my next random question about werewolves and vampires is (drum-role please) If a werewolf falls in love with a vampire, would it (and the vampire) be shunned from it's family and pack (or colony/clan for the vampire)? And no, I have never seen Romeo and Juliet, but yes I to did think of that in the middle of typing this question.

[Hamster_Mommy]

I agree, full heartedly

Worse than, oh say, tapeworms?!

[Hamster_Mommy]

Did you get the highlighted section from Futurama (sorry if spelled incorrectly)?



So, you're saying that a person could be so weak (mentally) that when they kill someone, their actions just torments their minds until they go nuts, right? I'm not sure if there is anyone that weak in this world (but if there is, I feel sorry for them).



In a sense, but it's really just a disorder, and that disorder is called A.I.D.S. (Accumulated Ignorance Disorder Syndrome). It's a very terrible disorder that makes one retarded when they are taken away from the real world in which everyone else lives in. It's not fatal, but it is the reason why most people in power don't keep the promises that they made when the people elected them. Only the few that still choose for their political career to not take over their life don't gain this disorder. It's a very sad disorder indeed.



Of course, but this is getting off topic (AKA, the title). So my next random question about werewolves and vampires is (drum-role please) If a werewolf falls in love with a vampire, would it (and the vampire) be shunned from it's family and pack (or colony/clan for the vampire)? And no, I have never seen Romeo and Juliet, but yes I to did think of that in the middle of typing this question.

I figure werewolf/vampire relationships with eachother and concerning pack/clan/family members would be like any other realationship with it's ups and downs ultimitely for all interrelating with eachother.


A paranormal legend I read once says that a werewolf upon death has a high chance of returning as a vampire to the world.

While werewolves and vampires are different beings they've been closely linked historically having a love-hate relationship throughout the years depending on legend.

There is a German legend where a victim escaped death by a vampire-werewolf and his werewolf companions/servents. He was injured and left muted during his escape and later recounted his survival story in his village by drawing it out on a table.

Another legend tells of a traveller visiting or passing through a remote graveyard in winter who is attacked by a group of werewolves and battered up, but they don't kill him. One of them sits on him to keep his blood from freezing in the extreme conditions as the man soon discovers for a vampiress who occupies the graveyard. Somehow the man escapes or is rescued before he meets whatever fate awaited him.

I think most vampires and werewolves prefer to stick to their own kind, or solitary, but sometimes for one reason or another find themselves teamed up, maybe they want to be at the time, or maybe it is just convienent for a situation.

[BlackRosePhantom]

Though I love your answer (and find that your thoughts are wonderfully untoughed by hollywood versions of the creatures), it really didn't answer the question posed. What would happen to a werewolf and a (classical) vampire if they fell in love, assuming (and I didn't mention this part before because I thought it was already implied) that vampires and werewolves are enemies/rivals?

[Hamster_Mommy]

Though I love your answer (and find that your thoughts are wonderfully untoughed by hollywood versions of the creatures), it really didn't answer the question posed. What would happen to a werewolf and a (classical) vampire if they fell in love, assuming (and I didn't mention this part before because I thought it was already implied) that vampires and werewolves are enemies/rivals?

Thank you. :) Ah, OK. Fell in love BUT were of rival races...

BTW, what is a classic vampire?
To me classic vampire is the vampire of legend. I think of essentially a non-glamourous undead corpse of someone wearing a funeral shroud or the clothes they where buried in riseing nightly to feed on the blood of their loved ones, or others to sustain their existance in such a state. Can't see anyone, werewolf or not loveing such a being, unless perhaps they knew the vampire while they where yet among the living and their feelings for them where not changed upon their death and undeath.

Anyhow WHAT IF:

I suspect they might run away together if possible from those that would not approve of their relations.

They might try to sway the view of their respective races, or families if possible somehow also.

If they elect to run away together maybe they will rebel against their races and if possible transfer unto one another becoming hybrids and start their own race/family.

I think a werewolf-vampire love relationship might be rough going not just for the lack of approval of the relation between races:

Differing urges, strong emotions, different biology etc.

[demonic_monkey]

Seems logical.

Here's one; If a small clan of vampires, say twenty or so, relocated to an area controlled by a clan of over 200 werewolves, how long would the vamps survive (assuming the weres are not on frindly terms)?

Need feedback for a bit of story I'm working on.

[UNODRAGONE]

Seems logical.

Here's one; If a small clan of vampires, say twenty or so, relocated to an area controlled by a clan of over 200 werewolves, how long would the vamps survive (assuming the weres are not on frindly terms)?

Need feedback for a bit of story I'm working on.

I would say give them a week or so settling in and fo the werewolves to plan their attack, I estimate about two to three weeks

[BlackRosePhantom]

Seems logical.

Here's one; If a small clan of vampires, say twenty or so, relocated to an area controlled by a clan of over 200 werewolves, how long would the vamps survive (assuming the weres are not on frindly terms)?

Need feedback for a bit of story I'm working on.

Well, depends on the strength of the clan of vampires vs. that of the pack of werewolves. Also, werewolves might be more social than regular wolves, but 200 seems far fetched. If there were 200+ werewolves in the land then I can only assume that A) this is a very large area with many packs or B) There is a suficent amount of food to go around for all of the packs, even in a fairly small area. Now choice A seems more realistic so I'll be working with that.

If the vampires roamed in this area knowing about the werewolves they must have been fearless and strong, and would actually only gather the attention of a few packs. That standing they might last a month or so, with only 5- vampires remaining that have finally fled the land. Now some packs will have more damage done than other, but the total werewolf deaths should only be from 5-20 depending on how big each pack is and their strength. Unless the packs attacked together, packs that attacked second and third would receive the most damage because the first pack would only get the vampires blood flowing.

Of course, I did mention what if all the packs angered by the invasion of terratory attacked all at once. For the answer to that the time line of the vampires remaining would be less than one weak because of shear numbers and having no chance to rest, not even for a second. There might be more survivors in this senario if the vampires decide to flee soon enough, or they could all be killed. Hope this helps for your story.

[xxMatolfxx]

The person above me has a extremely good proof.

[Hamster_Mommy]

Unless the vampires have some wicked traps, spells, abilities etc. being already grossly outnumbered and presumably unable to be active during the day outdoors, or at all given their nature, I think the werewolves would quickly overcome them ultimitely in a week or less once they became aware of the vampires presence in their midst. The werewolves would have more time to prepare an attack/defense. I can see where 200 werewolves sounds like a lot to gather in one area for any length of time, but not unrealistically I think, maybe they have their own town or fortress set up somewhere. For food they could have groceries with big meat departments, or raise livestock even. Or tourists could just visit but never leave ha-ha. Same for the vampires.

[BlackRosePhantom]

Unless the vampires have some wicked traps, spells, abilities etc. being already grossly outnumbered and presumably unable to be active during the day outdoors, or at all given their nature, I think the werewolves would quickly overcome them ultimitely in a week or less once they became aware of the vampires presence in their midst. The werewolves would have more time to prepare an attack/defense. I can see where 200 werewolves sounds like a lot to gather in one area for any length of time, but not unrealistically I think, maybe they have their own town or fortress set up somewhere. For food they could have groceries with big meat departments, or raise livestock even. Or tourists could just visit but never leave ha-ha. Same for the vampires.

Yeah...... Why would the werewolves want to build a fortress again? The reason I ask this is because fortress = stairs, long hallways, hallways that look exactly like one another, rooms that look exactly like one another, passageways that look exactly like one another, etc that look exactly the same. Do you catch my drift? Fortress + Werewolf = Destroyed fortress for because the werewolf got lost and/or annoyed with the total similarity and destroyed the damn place. Besides, werewolves would most likely like the outdoors (which has a lot of open roaming space) better than the indoors (which a confined). I wouldn't be surprised if werewolves were normally claustrophobic. Hey, that's a great question! Do you think that a lot of werewolves are claustrophobic?

[lupine-bianca]

Do you think that a lot of werewolves are claustrophobic?

I would think that werewolves, in wolf-form, aren't afraid of anthing except perhaps silver. Maybe they dislike enclosed spaces, but a phobia...I don't think so...
That is a really good question! ;p
But, alas, the only one ho could truly answer it is a werewolf and since we don't erm..have any on hand... as this isn't the LARP section, we might never know...
But like i said, I don't relaly think they have fears, to be in such a seemingly undamageable and perhaps immortal form, one might feel all-powerful and forget things such as fears all together...not very wise, but as you would have more of an animalistoce brain, sort of expected....
Just my thoughts..
hugs,
-BRAT!
ps. I mean no offense to anyone by anythiing I say, I beg forgiveness if I have incurred your rath. ;p

[xxMatolfxx]

Werewolves are not immortal like vampires. I think you are a tad confused. Vampires would outnumber werewolves. How does a vampire spread their disease and now ask yourself how does a vampire feed. See the similarity, they would vastly outnumber a werewolf. Then again, a vampire can't go out durring the day.

[Hamster_Mommy]

Yeah...... Why would the werewolves want to build a fortress again? The reason I ask this is because fortress = stairs, long hallways, hallways that look exactly like one another, rooms that look exactly like one another, passageways that look exactly like one another, etc that look exactly the same. Do you catch my drift? Fortress + Werewolf = Destroyed fortress for because the werewolf got lost and/or annoyed with the total similarity and destroyed the damn place. Besides, werewolves would most likely like the outdoors (which has a lot of open roaming space) better than the indoors (which a confined). I wouldn't be surprised if werewolves were normally claustrophobic. Hey, that's a great question! Do you think that a lot of werewolves are claustrophobic?

I would hope if the werewolves built the fortress however bland and repetative in design it was if made so they would be smart enough to not get lost in their own creation.
The werewolves don't have to live in the fortress, or even use it regularly, but they could have one to use. The fortress could hold anti-vampire unique weaponry, shelter the injured if any, young, or non-werewolf loved ones that may be around, act as a base of operations in which to gather as a group in privacy etc. The fortress could also be surrounded by a huge forest area and a wall. Maybe the fortress is just a huge wall around a forested land area, like a territorial boundry. The possibilities are as many as one's imagination and with creative crafting can be made believable enough for entertainment purposes.
I think that is a creative suggestion that werewolves might not like structured settlements and get claustrophobic given their nature, I like it.
I figure even a werewolf has to have some structure be it a hole in the ground or cave to call home though, 200 werewolves laying around an open forest after a night's roaming is a bit conspicuous.

For the question:
Based on my experiences in werewolf legend, modern sub culture, and other resources: I think that a lot of werewolves get easily pent up when they are indoors for too long, yeah, or unable to access and roam a natural environment, or even an open urban environment, should they reside in a more industrialized area for some reason. I think this is especially so when they are desireing to shift, or a shift is close, or under stress.

[Layira Aura]

Do you think that a lot of werewolves are claustrophobic?


Have you ever seen a caged dog(or any animal)? They pace, they don't like it. Almost every animal is "claustrophiobic" in a sense. I don't believe they would have a phobia, but they would most likely feel cornered or uncomfortable in confined areas. Which is probably why the werewolves wouldn't build a fortress. If any type of "safe-house" was built, it probably wouldn't be built with close hallways and such.

[silvr_werwulf]

I think that to kill a werewolf, you'd have to either wait for it to die of old age, or stab it through the heart with something silver. Vampires probably holy water would be very bad.

werewolves dont die of old age..... I hope

[Moon_Slave]

no the age old just like a human but when they turn into a were... the grow stronger just as if the were young.

[demonic_monkey]

Well, the area the werewolves will inhabit in my story is really more like a small town where humans never go, considering the likelihood that they won't come back. They have basic housing and nothing even remotely like a fortress unless you count the town hall. Really, they're civilized (big shock considering Hollywood's portrayal of them). Also, they won't know that the sudden influx of new inhabitants are vamps until two weeks after they arrive and one tries to lure one of the vamps into the nearby forests to devour her. Now some would say that the were's would realize it sooner, given their hightened senses, but these grew accustomed to a simple life without having to run from vampire death squads (which this twenty vamp team is) and don't go fur and fangs unless an unaware human stumbles into their territory and then it's pretty easy to kill the human. There's really no use for their supersenses. They let their guard way down. By the way, in my story the were's are immortal, too. Could this info allow for a bit of enhanced story as well as an ending where a few on both sides live?

[Aeolus]

Well, the area the werewolves will inhabit in my story is really more like a small town where humans never go, considering the likelihood that they won't come back. They have basic housing and nothing even remotely like a fortress unless you count the town hall. Really, they're civilized (big shock considering Hollywood's portrayal of them). Also, they won't know that the sudden influx of new inhabitants are vamps until two weeks after they arrive and one tries to lure one of the vamps into the nearby forests to devour her. Now some would say that the were's would realize it sooner, given their hightened senses, but these grew accustomed to a simple life without having to run from vampire death squads (which this twenty vamp team is) and don't go fur and fangs unless an unaware human stumbles into their territory and then it's pretty easy to kill the human. There's really no use for their supersenses. They let their guard way down. By the way, in my story the were's are immortal, too. Could this info allow for a bit of enhanced story as well as an ending where a few on both sides live?

Your story, your creatures. You can recreate creatures in stories, giving people a new take on what they are like.

[Lady Tiger]

so what if u believe if or if not some of the vampires and werewolves fight. leave it to those who are fighting. if ur not why worry about it? true? so if ur not fight one or the other than don't worry about it....

[serpentwarrior]

I would bite a snake in werewolf form.

[Kaden]

Uhm... okay? What the hell does that have to do with anything?

[serpentwarrior]

I WAS REPLING TO ANOTHER PERSOn

[DarkWolf]

I WAS REPLING TO ANOTHER PERSOn
Then use the quote feature, it's simple enough.

[Kaden]

I WAS REPLING TO ANOTHER PERSOn

Wow you yelled everything but that little n at the end... aren't you special. Did any one get you a dictionary for the Holidays because you spelled replying wrong.

[UNODRAGONE]

I WAS REPLING TO ANOTHER PERSOn

I think you meant to hit the reply button with their response. Try again

[crimson arrow]

I know i asked this before but i want the new people to get a chance to give theor point of view. Does anyone believe that weres and vampires exist in todays society?

[Kaden]

In today's society? No. In the past? No. Ever? No.

[serpentwarrior]

I stink at spelling but I didn't mean to capslock. oops!

[xxMatolfxx]

Don't worry I do it all the time, just make sure to reread what you wrote.

[Emma_Ray]

I know i asked this before but i want the new people to get a chance to give theor point of view. Does anyone believe that weres and vampires exist in todays society?

Allegorically, sure. Categorically, possibly(certain diseases cause vampiric-like needs/symptoms and lycanthropy is a recognized mental illness). Realistically, no. Not unless the ancients somehow confused a Giant Redwood with a werewolf - since those are the longest lived things on the planet. Sorry, no immortality :(

[UNODRAGONE]

Allegorically, sure. Categorically, possibly(certain diseases cause vampiric-like needs/symptoms and lycanthropy is a recognized mental illness). Realistically, no. Not unless the ancients somehow confused a Giant Redwood with a werewolf - since those are the longest lived things on the planet. Sorry, no immortality :(

Blunt and to the point :) welcome

[Emma_Ray]

Thanks! Not one for beating around the bush, LOL. Considering I make a living making myths my own, I sure hope they aren't real. Holy shnikes, imagine the lawsuits for defamation of character *tongue in cheek* >:)

[Destiny]

I haven't read all of this, but what do you think, if myths and legends were true, about some of the myths? Which ones would you think were true?

Personally I never liked the coffin and garlic thing.:D