Okori Tenko
01-21-2007, 11:03 AM
There were several things in this that seem rather confusing, or put in a way that was very jaded. I don't mean to cause such a scene, or ignight new flames, which this might, but for what my beliefs are in myself, I had to reply. I'll start with the few statements that caught my eyes:
"Amethyst
Therianthropy is not something that makes you inhuman, above human, different, or special."
I'd have to disagree only in part. Does it make us inhuman? No. Does it make us FEEL inhuman? Yes. Does it make us different or special? Different enought that we all find ourselves here. If we didn't feel different, then we would not be here searching others out who also felt this difference. Special? Only because of the difference from those who stick to "normally accepted perameters of socially accepted behavior". I say and stick to behavior because we would not be doing and discussing what we believe if we did not believe what we do.
"Being special and individual is something that comes from your personality and how you decide to live your life."
I could not agree more with this. Very insightfull.
"That way, when the same questions crop up again and again, the rest of us can justifiably get angry."
There is no justification for being jadedly wrathfull. We are generations in the making. Societies are always unstable until we teach the young tradition, and for common internet society, we are not far enough along to keep a traditional doctrin, just a philosophy that we adhear to, which can be changed at whim. Remember that alot of others do feel like they are what we know ourselves to be, for what about ourselves we have learned to accept, in both our strengths and weaknesses, what we do excell at and what we still have to work on. Those who do not know any better can only explain themselves by what they can find, however wrong it may first be. This is when Philosophy meets doctrine. We have to remain patient and understanding of those who do not understand, and re-educate them in our ways of the philosophy we have, until they can make thier own descisions about themselves.
Remember that those of us who were here originally also had many of the same misconceptions. We were no different from those who are just now seeking.
ight
However, he also sometimes talks about having the soul of an animal, and it does seem to approach a spiritual level occasionally. Another of his furry friends talked to me once about furry beliefs (which to my ears sounded like they were ripped from ‘Werewolf: The Apocalypse’ cosmology, right down to the triat, but who am I to judge…)This ‘level’ of ‘furryism’, should it be accurate, seems a lot closer to Therianthropy (at least, so far as I understand Therianthropy).
This is a prime example of what I am speaking of. Granted, the truth is, if you are a gamer, then there's no way around that. If you are a Furry, then there is no changing that. If these two things are all you have to explain yourself, then there needs to be a reform in thier education.
This includes giving them our history, showing them what we have learned and letting them explore on thier own once they have been re-educated enough. If you were in an innocent's tracks in just learning the wrong things, would you want to be bashed like some of those who have been here for so long and become jaded?
We al need to learn more patients. Packs, flocks, prides... they all stick together to do two things when it comes to families: They take care of and educate the young about thier society.
We should act no different.
DarkWolf
"Now, from my above link, whether or not you’re a furry shouldn’t be too much of a complex question, but I sense that it’s being used in a spiritual sense. Now, I might wonder if this is true interest or just a need to belong, but I suppose that’s true of any conversion."
True interest or spirituallity? Isn't that what we are all here to find out? To explore what we are and what we are not? This does draw back to the original topic. Or... doesn't it?
The descision on the future lays in the paws of those who would lead the philosophies.
Who will you be? A Mufassa or Scar? Simbas and Nalas are born, and they need to learn.
"Amethyst
Therianthropy is not something that makes you inhuman, above human, different, or special."
I'd have to disagree only in part. Does it make us inhuman? No. Does it make us FEEL inhuman? Yes. Does it make us different or special? Different enought that we all find ourselves here. If we didn't feel different, then we would not be here searching others out who also felt this difference. Special? Only because of the difference from those who stick to "normally accepted perameters of socially accepted behavior". I say and stick to behavior because we would not be doing and discussing what we believe if we did not believe what we do.
"Being special and individual is something that comes from your personality and how you decide to live your life."
I could not agree more with this. Very insightfull.
"That way, when the same questions crop up again and again, the rest of us can justifiably get angry."
There is no justification for being jadedly wrathfull. We are generations in the making. Societies are always unstable until we teach the young tradition, and for common internet society, we are not far enough along to keep a traditional doctrin, just a philosophy that we adhear to, which can be changed at whim. Remember that alot of others do feel like they are what we know ourselves to be, for what about ourselves we have learned to accept, in both our strengths and weaknesses, what we do excell at and what we still have to work on. Those who do not know any better can only explain themselves by what they can find, however wrong it may first be. This is when Philosophy meets doctrine. We have to remain patient and understanding of those who do not understand, and re-educate them in our ways of the philosophy we have, until they can make thier own descisions about themselves.
Remember that those of us who were here originally also had many of the same misconceptions. We were no different from those who are just now seeking.
ight
However, he also sometimes talks about having the soul of an animal, and it does seem to approach a spiritual level occasionally. Another of his furry friends talked to me once about furry beliefs (which to my ears sounded like they were ripped from ‘Werewolf: The Apocalypse’ cosmology, right down to the triat, but who am I to judge…)This ‘level’ of ‘furryism’, should it be accurate, seems a lot closer to Therianthropy (at least, so far as I understand Therianthropy).
This is a prime example of what I am speaking of. Granted, the truth is, if you are a gamer, then there's no way around that. If you are a Furry, then there is no changing that. If these two things are all you have to explain yourself, then there needs to be a reform in thier education.
This includes giving them our history, showing them what we have learned and letting them explore on thier own once they have been re-educated enough. If you were in an innocent's tracks in just learning the wrong things, would you want to be bashed like some of those who have been here for so long and become jaded?
We al need to learn more patients. Packs, flocks, prides... they all stick together to do two things when it comes to families: They take care of and educate the young about thier society.
We should act no different.
DarkWolf
"Now, from my above link, whether or not you’re a furry shouldn’t be too much of a complex question, but I sense that it’s being used in a spiritual sense. Now, I might wonder if this is true interest or just a need to belong, but I suppose that’s true of any conversion."
True interest or spirituallity? Isn't that what we are all here to find out? To explore what we are and what we are not? This does draw back to the original topic. Or... doesn't it?
The descision on the future lays in the paws of those who would lead the philosophies.
Who will you be? A Mufassa or Scar? Simbas and Nalas are born, and they need to learn.