True Lycans Unite

[Lucid_Nightmares]

This thread is just a little meeting place for those of us who believe they are weres and for those who believe that weres exsits co-inhabitantly with the rest of the world. Hollywood and folklore have a tendacy to over exagerate weres, we are not blood thristy barbarians, nor are we hidiously deform,ed abominations, We are beautiful, graceful creatures, who have a unique connection with nature, the moon, and all of creation. Please feel fee to discuss what ever you like as far as this topic is concerned, and please, have respect for each others opinions.

[LV426]

This thread is just a little meeting place for those of us who believe they are weres and for those who believe that weres exsits co-inhabitantly with the rest of the world. Hollywood and folklore have a tendacy to over exagerate weres, we are not blood thristy barbarians, nor are we hidiously deform,ed abominations, We are beautiful, graceful creatures, who have a unique connection with nature, the moon, and all of creation. Please feel fee to discuss what ever you like as far as this topic is concerned, and please, have respect for each others opinions.

Please go back and correct all of your spelling and punctuation errors.

[Moonthornn]

I’m unsure of whether I’m or not. I’ve had severally insanely werewolf dreams where I am tired in the morning and my feet hurt like I’ve run for hours across nothing but cement and gravel (What makes up my little suburban neighborhood)

I really want to find out because if I am were than awesome I should learn how to go in and out on my own will. If I’m not then I must find out how to become one. Do you have any hints on how you would tell if you are a werewolf??

[Vagabond Flow]

The term 'Lycan' originated with the 2003 film Underworld. Couldn't you make up something more original?

[Lucid_Nightmares]

The term 'Lycan' originated with the 2003 film Underworld. Couldn't you make up something more original?

I choose the term "lycan" as a shorter version of lycanthrope, not because I took it from the movie. Please do not assume that I am a moron based on that one word. I had joined this particular forum because I thought that maybe I'd be around other people who were more concerned with werewolves and other shape shifters and the folk lore behind it all, rather than a group of people hell bent on making sure that spelling and grammer is absolutly perfect and wether or not a term that is used means something completly different than it acctually does. But evidently I was mistaken.

[xxMatolfxx]

I refuse to vote. I believe though. I have no idea if I am or if I am not. I wouldn't go out of my way to be one because I just think that is stupid. Who in their right mind would infect someone just because they asked them. It usually happens on accident or if someone threatened to tell someone if they didn't bite them now. This is just my opinion though. :cool:

[RQ]

I had joined this particular forum because I thought I'd be around other people who were concerned with werewolves, shape shifters and folk, rather than people hell bent on making sure that spelling/grammer is perfect.Dude, it's been stated in other threads on this forum, but let me refresh your memory: discussion forums such as Werewolf.com are entirely centered on communication through written text.

It is NOT too much to ask that if you choose to use this form of communication, that you do so in a legible and correct way. The only incorrect spelling/grammar that is moderately acceptable is that coming from people using English as a second language (and even THEN, they try very hard to be correct and are grateful when corrected because it improves their understanding).
and wether or not a term that is used means something different than it acctually does. But evidently I was mistaken.Again, this comes down to your ability to effectively communicate your meaning which, in this case, seems to be that you are looking for other delusional individuals who believe they can pee-shift into animals because they're dissatisfied with their lives and prone to engaging in escapist fantasies. Let me help you help yourself: get off the internet. Find some real people with whom you can have real connections about real things. You'll thank me when you grow up.

[Moonthornn]

Damn, why is everyone so harsh here? And why is spelling and grammar so important! (don't answer that, I read the previous post.) But seriously, IT DOESN'T MATTER!

[LV426]

Damn, why is everyone so harsh here? And why is spelling and grammar so important! (don't answer that, I read the previous post.) But seriously, IT DOESN'T MATTER!
Of course it matters. The internet is not excuse for illiteracy. I'm harsh because I've been online since 1998 and had to go through repeats of this same shit day after day after day. People too lazy to use entire words or look up the correct spelling of a word. People who want to be so different that they make up shit to make themselves special. Well guess what, my tolerance level is about ZERO. So either shape up or log out and quit bitching.

[Somebody!!]

Of course it matters. The internet is not excuse for illiteracy. I'm harsh because I've been online since 1998 and had to go through repeats of this same shit day after day after day. People too lazy to use entire words or look up the correct spelling of a word. People who want to be so different that they make up shit to make themselves special. Well guess what, my tolerance level is about ZERO. So either shape up or log out and quit bitching.

Good reason...

But seriously, WEREWOLFS?!? thats just stupid.

How many more people are going to walk on in here and claim that they are a werewolf? Its getting quite annoying. Why not respond to the other "werewolf"'s threads instead of making new threads with the same question over and over again.

[sai-fujiwara]

Good reason...

But seriously, WEREWOLFS?!? thats just stupid.

How many more people are going to walk on in here and claim that they are a werewolf? Its getting quite annoying. Why not respond to the other "werewolf"'s threads instead of making new threads with the same question over and over again.
Because these so called "werewolves" think that this site is an online shrine to them and that it belongs to the myth, history, and reality of werewolves and other such lyncanthropes and creaters of the night.

These people wish to be noticed and recognized for what they think they are, so they create new threads. I also believe that they cannot find the old threads, and therefore make new ones.

The reasons for their inability to finding these threads could be laziness, and the rules of zombie, but it may also be because the mods delete these threads after a few posts of nonesense.

But thats just what I think ;)

[Zombie]

, and the rules of zombie, But thats just what I think ;)[/FONT][/QUOTE]

I didnt make any rules!!! :D :D :D
And I think "canis lupis homo sapien" would be more correct than "lycan".

-Z

[NeonLightChild]

These people wish to be noticed and recognized for what they are, so they create new threads.
Fixed for accuracy.

And yes, we do notice and recognize them as attention whores.

And if you are a true lycanthrope, I suggest none other than counseling. Clinical lycanthropy is nothing to be proud of and can seriously harm others.

[Canis Lupus]

If you really are a lycanthrope, don't scream it out loud. Scientists in white coats will hunt you and do nasty experiments on you. :D

[Spartanwarrior]

Because these so called "werewolves" think that this site is an online shrine to them and that it belongs to the myth, history, and reality of werewolves and other such lyncanthropes and creaters of the night.

These people wish to be noticed and recognized for what they think they are, so they create new threads. I also believe that they cannot find the old threads, and therefore make new ones.

The reasons for their inability to finding these threads could be laziness, and the rules of zombie, but it may also be because the mods delete these threads after a few posts of nonesense.

But thats just what I think ;)


Not that I am trying to take sides but the site is named werewolf.com (duh). So I don’t really think it is that much of a stretch that people can think that the site is based on, take a guess, werewolves. Who cares anyhow (well probably the same people that are crazy about your spelling, speaking of which I ran this though spell check about 4 time, they will still find a problem with it trust me.)? the original post is offending or all that outrageous. You never really know what is out there, not that I am trying to say that werewolf’s are real, I’m not saying that. However there have been multiple animals discovered that were at one time or another just a ledged (look it up), to simply close your mind to anything without conclusive proof, (with this issue it will be hard to get to) is ignorance. People all around the world believe in a god with out much proof if other then a book and hearsay, I’m one of those people. Believing in something, silly or not is one of the fundamental building blocks of human civilization, even if that believe is not supported by evidence or reason, chew it over.

[sai-fujiwara]

Not that I am trying to take sides but the site is named werewolf.com (duh). So I don’t really think it is that much of a stretch that people can think that the site is based on, take a guess, werewolves. Who cares anyhow (well probably the same people that are crazy about your spelling, speaking of which I ran this though spell check about 4 time, they will still find a problem with it trust me.)? the original post is offending or all that outrageous. You never really know what is out there, not that I am trying to say that werewolf’s are real, I’m not saying that. However there have been multiple animals discovered that were at one time or another just a ledged (look it up), to simply close your mind to anything without conclusive proof, (with this issue it will be hard to get to) is ignorance. People all around the world believe in a god with out much proof if other then a book and hearsay, I’m one of those people. Believing in something, silly or not is one of the fundamental building blocks of human civilization, even if that believe is not supported by evidence or reason, chew it over.
Try looking up "sarcasm" in the dictionary. :)

[Spartanwarrior]

Try looking up "sarcasm" in the dictionary. :)
just making a point, thanks though. :p

[Vagabond Flow]

If you really are a lycanthrope, don't scream it out loud. Scientists in white coats will hunt you and do nasty experiments on you. :D

Couldn't you just call the cops?

[Lucid_Nightmares]

With all due respect, just because I may slip up occasionally on spelling a word correctly, doesn't mean I'm illiterate. There's another possible reason for my minor misspellings, could be that I'm dyslexic, which I am and unfortunatly I can't put coloured film on my keyboard to stop the letters from shifting. And if it makes anyone feel better, I looked up the word dyslexic to spell it correctly.

[xxMatolfxx]

If you really are a lycanthrope, don't scream it out loud. Scientists in white coats will hunt you and do nasty experiments on you. :D
I side with him. Any smart one would not even be saying they are right out in the open. The really smart ones would not be on this site at all. :)

[Shield_Wulf]

I side with him. Any smart one would not even be saying they are right out in the open. The really smart ones would not be on this site at all. :)

Or if they are, they are calling all the people that say they are Werewolf stupid with the rest of us. lol :D

[xxMatolfxx]

Ya. I am not meaning to make fun. I am just simply pointing out to everyone who comes on here and acts as they are one to please stop. If you want a site like that pm me I know of a new one starting.

[BCvonRayfus]

For once, I'm going to post something simple. Burn me if you like, but I believe in werewolves. Everybody says they need to see it to believe it, well I have to see something showing DIRECTLY that they don't exist for me to believe they don't exist.

[RQ]

For once, I'm going to post something simple. Burn me if you like, but I believe in werewolves. Everybody says they need to see it to believe it, well I have to see something showing DIRECTLY that they don't exist for me to believe they don't exist.You and Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, and God must be getting along famously.

[John 677808]

You and Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, and God must be getting along famously.

Don't insult, God ! :cool:

[Spartanwarrior]

With all due respect, just because I may slip up occasionally on spelling a word correctly, doesn't mean I'm illiterate. There's another possible reason for my minor misspellings, could be that I'm dyslexic, which I am and unfortunatly I can't put coloured film on my keyboard to stop the letters from shifting. And if it makes anyone feel better, I looked up the word dyslexic to spell it correctly.

You have to be careful with your spelling, not perfect. Most of the time people that will jump you on it have nothing better to do (unless it is a mod), however that does not mean that you can be careless. Just run your text through spell-check once before entering it. I have spelling problems to, I have got to run all my stuff through spell check to, it sucks but you get used to it. Do that and people (most) will stay off your back. :)

[LV426]

You and Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, and God must be getting along famously.
Don't be dissin' The Claus Man now.

[RQ]

Don't insult, God ! :cool:Ahh, the difference a comma makes. Fear not, for I am a benevolent and kind deity.*

*Lie.

[BCvonRayfus]

You and Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, and God must be getting along famously.- Red_Queen

Don't insult the Tooth Fairy :p

[Martino]

I see everyone have other opinion . But in somethings you told the truth . People dont want to believe in nothing now . Only money are important in these times . I talk to people which told me they are were many times but when i want to see them and talk to them they say dont have time and other bullshit . So that is reason why no one believe . For liars and other .

[KingFatman]

The term 'Lycan' originated with the 2003 film Underworld. Couldn't you make up something more original?
Dude the trerm lycan has been in use for far longer than fucking underworld. Even montague summers has used the word in his own writings. ( If you don't know who I'm talking about then you've never researched anything on lycanthopes... he's basically a legend) I'm not sure on an exact date though. I'll find it as soon as I can. ALso I agree that a majority of people that say they are weres are probably lieing. the poulation is that great. Before this year the U.S. only had just over 100 known the royal family. So yeah a lot of people are liars. Hell for all any of you know I could be lying. I used to get pissed when I wasn't believed, but hell what's the point. Half of you wouldn't believe it unless I walked up and bit you, and maybe the other half have valid reason for believing. Let people think whatever they want. I just find it pretty shitty that every time someone wants to discuss it they get bombarded with a million "ur an idiot if u believe"'s. If you don't agree then why waste ur time posting.

[MorganaFang]

Dude the trerm lycan has been in use for far longer than fucking underworld. Even montague summers has used the word in his own writings. ( If you don't know who I'm talking about then you've never researched anything on lycanthopes... he's basically a legend) I'm not sure on an exact date though. I'll find it as soon as I can.

Kiddo, I'm going to have to get an actual quote from Summers before I'd believe it and honestly I do not have the books nor the time at my disposal to go searching myself. And the time frame for Summers was around the 1930's. Summers was also kind of a looney, I'd read his stuff with a grain of salt, maybe the exception being the Malleus Maleficarum, since those were supposedly from other people who claimed to be witch hunters. Only on the relevance that historically those people believed what they were writing.


Half of you wouldn't believe it unless I walked up and bit you, and maybe the other half have valid reason for believing.

I'd be so rich for how many times I've heard that statement and variations of it.


Let people think whatever they want. I just find it pretty shitty that every time someone wants to discuss it they get bombarded with a million "ur an idiot if u believe"'s.

That's hilarious. Yeah the people arguing against werewolves spell worse than the people that are "arguing" for.


If you don't agree then why waste ur time posting.

In most cases it's trying to get a good debate going so we can see sides and maybe even get very relevant and difficult to disprove proof of existence. Hey crazy, huh? But the majority of time we get people who are so indignant that their posts are being "torn apart" that the best they come up with is "i hav 2 b there and bite you myself to proff it". If people actually discuss with a little bit more meat to their discussions like "werewolves are possible because of such and such a genetic inconsistency and blah blah" then it's a little more buyable, though people will still argue but you just have to relax and not be too fucking serious.

Another thing which I've said a zillion times, if you honestly truly, utterly believe in something but cannot come up with a good argument or just "not in the mood to type a lot" then why post at all yourselves? You should be satisfied that you yourself believe so strongly in such and not have to convince anyone.

Do an action and suffer consequences of said action. Don't be a fucking dope and whine about it. That'll get you no where.

Dude, also your believability factor is way down (than even normal for the anonymous interwebs) because you express about how much weed you smoke all the time. Honestly HONESTLY, do you think people are going to have a lot of faith in what you say online?

I see everyone have other opinion . But in somethings you told the truth . People dont want to believe in nothing now . Only money are important in these times . I talk to people which told me they are were many times but when i want to see them and talk to them they say dont have time and other bullshit . So that is reason why no one believe . For liars and other .

I cannot make any sense of that other than "people don't want to believe in anything". I'd have to say I whole heartedly disagree and wish people would open their eyes more to their fellow human beings.

[LV426]

MOntegue Summers' only book on werewolves was called “The Werewolf” and was published in 1933. I do not recall the word "lycan" being used in that book. I do know that "lycanthrope" and "lycanthropy" was used frequently however. Besides that Montegue Summers was a certifiable nutcase. He was a catholic priest whose entire goal in life was to find and persecute witches. He believed they were "evil livers" and must be eradicated. He firmly believed that they deserved any torture and punishment that was meted out to them. He studiously pursued the evils of witches, convinced that they are the spawn of satan. Even though anthropologists had documented witches as an old religion and ambivalent practice, he still insisted that witches needed to be destroyed.

The contents of his werewolf, vampire, and occult books were based solely on old wives' tales and pieces of local legends that he ripped of. He also took "eye witness" accounts as fact and reported them as such. And at one point in his review of a psychiatrist he referred to someone from 1824 as being a foremost authority on psychiatric study. I'm pretty sure that by 1933 there were more accurate psychiatric evaluations going on.

So if you are going to cite fanaticists and lunatics as sources for your factual accounts as werewolves, you have the wrong website.

[walker of ways]

What you guys (and gals) just don't seem to get is that KingFatMan is at least partialy right. For most of your, you are on a 'seeing is believeing' basis, which never really works for anything. Let me explain it this way, take a blind person who lives by that basis, who has lived their entire life being blind, they cannot see anything at all. So what is the world to them? Non existant? No, they have to BELIEVE it exists because of what is around them, right? Knowlage is nothing without a belief to back it up! People are always going to have their different ideas on things, and you must recognise this. Why do we have to be constantly fighting about things like this? If someone believes something like this, then fine! Is it hurting you for them to believe it? If you answer yes, than I don't think you should come to this forum or any forum that has to do with werewolves anymore.

[LV426]

What you guys (and gals) just don't seem to get is that KingFatMan is at least partialy right. For most of your, you are on a 'seeing is believeing' basis, which never really works for anything. Let me explain it this way, take a blind person who lives by that basis, who has lived their entire life being blind, they cannot see anything at all. So what is the world to them? Non existant? No, they have to BELIEVE it exists because of what is around them, right? Knowlage is nothing without a belief to back it up! People are always going to have their different ideas on things, and you must recognise this. Why do we have to be constantly fighting about things like this? If someone believes something like this, then fine! Is it hurting you for them to believe it? If you answer yes, than I don't think you should come to this forum or any forum that has to do with werewolves anymore.


Minor details this forum is not about werewolves.

Anyway there is a difference in someone who is blind not believing because they can't see it and someone who is capable of fully examining all aspects of a situation or creature and making a scientific determination that the creature does or does not exist. In this case we are stating that there is no evidence, visual or other to prove that werewolves do in fact exist. Hell I don't have to see it if other proof is provided. DNA samples that can be tested for alternate or mixed DNA structures would be an excellent way to begin proving that werewolves exist. Without proof the belief in werewolves is no more concrete than the existence of god and all the religions associated with it.

If you think that proof is not needed then I have a pink elephant in my closet that I would like to sell you. Oh but it's invisible.

[xxMatolfxx]

Now I am not going to repost his post. I am not going to make fun or insult either. I do believe in them even. I am just going to simply point out that this site is not for just werewolf talking. It is a forum that has a mythology and metafauna area and other onces of such. Like I said before. I know of a site that is for such things. If you seriously want a forum like that so people here can post without having to point out stuff like this and take there time to take a paragraph and break it down by sentences and say what is wrong or right in it then pm me. No I am not advertising for this site. Atleast I am not meaning to. I am just simply trying to get people off of here thinking that this site is for this and on to another so they leave people alone who think that they have insanely bogus opinoins and decide to do as I said break it down and attempt to disapprove them.

[MorganaFang]

Now I am not going to repost his post. I am not going to make fun or insult either. I do believe in them even. I am just going to simply point out that this site is not for just werewolf talking. It is a forum that has a mythology and metafauna area and other onces of such. Like I said before. I know of a site that is for such things. If you seriously want a forum like that so people here can post without having to point out stuff like this and take there time to take a paragraph and break it down by sentences and say what is wrong or right in it then pm me. No I am not advertising for this site. Atleast I am not meaning to. I am just simply trying to get people off of here thinking that this site is for this and on to another so they leave people alone who think that they have insanely bogus opinoins and decide to do as I said break it down and attempt to disapprove them.


Basically what you people want is to post on a site where people hang off your every word and praise your ideas unconditionally.

Whether there is any actual fact or good citation of what you are posting.

A bonus of that site being people are too lazy to care about typing full out sentences or spelling correctly or sounding the least bit intelligent anyway.

Well more power to you, babes.

[John 677808]

[QUOTE=LV426]Minor details this forum is not about werewolves.

Anyway there is a difference in someone who is blind not believing because they can't see it and someone who is capable of fully examining all aspects of a situation or creature and making a scientific determination that the creature does or does not exist. In this case we are stating that there is no evidence, visual or other to prove that werewolves do in fact exist. Hell I don't have to see it if other proof is provided. DNA samples that can be tested for alternate or mixed DNA structures would be an excellent way to begin proving that werewolves exist. Without proof the belief in werewolves is no more concrete than the existence of god and all the religions associated with it.

Eh, Excuse me, but the the major point of this site is that it features werewolf and mythology related stuff. Why else would the site be Werewolf.com, here's my point LV426. :mad:

[Shield_Wulf]

Ya it features them. I know a of sites that features thing about myths and stuff but doesn't mean that's what there all about. And as its been said before, the reason why the site is call werewolf.com is because the site owner Chriz was(or still is) A fan of White Wolf's Werewolf games. Damn, that's been said so mant times before(I thought I'd take my turn saying it...lol). So it not all about werewolves and shit like that at all.

[Moonchild_Starla]

I choose the term "lycan" as a shorter version of lycanthrope, not because I took it from the movie. Please do not assume that I am a moron based on that one word. I had joined this particular forum because I thought that maybe I'd be around other people who were more concerned with werewolves and other shape shifters and the folk lore behind it all, rather than a group of people hell bent on making sure that spelling and grammer is absolutly perfect and wether or not a term that is used means something completly different than it acctually does. But evidently I was mistaken.


:beerchug: Cheers all around! For serious, dear god so what if someone has grammar problems and spelling errors, this is the internet for goddness sake not an english exam; it has it's own lingo. I praise you for standing up for yourself. CONGRATS! :notworthy

[RQ]

Cheers all around! For serious, dear god so what if someone has grammar problems and spelling errors, this is the internet for goddness sake not an english exam; it has it's own lingo. I praise you for standing up for yourself. CONGRATS! The internet is a means of communication. It's not about it being or not being an English exam; effective communication involves proper spelling and grammar. If you can't communicate effectively, stay off the internet.

[Canis Lupus]

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w53/_-Aranel-_/internet.gif
:D

[thenewbishop]

Yes osterfer I am gooing :D

Translation "yes officer I am going"

[walker of ways]

The internet is a means of communication. It's not about it being or not being an English exam; effective communication involves proper spelling and grammar. If you can't communicate effectively, stay off the internet.

will someones please lets me knows when someones is going to talk backs to me, so 'Mr. Sensitives' don'ts goes to crysbaby's house for vacation.

[BCvonRayfus]

will someones please lets me knows when someones is going to talk backs to me, so 'Mr. Sensitives' don'ts goes to crysbaby's house for vacation.

That sounds like Switzgar from Metalocalypse! Anyway, you know what? I'm a werewolf...check out my awesome, shocking and amazing proof!

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3382/werewolf3st8.png

It took me forever to make-ehem get that picture...taken...ye ah. :D Don't ask me how I turned in the daylight...

[walker of ways]

That sounds like Switzgar from Metalocalypse!


Thats where I got it from, I just thought It was fitting fot the sittuation... :)

[Tovah]

I LOVE it, BC. That was funny.

[BCvonRayfus]

It really did take a long time to make that :p

[Captain Death]

I never knew weres wore trilbys. Or suits for that matter. Love the ginger locks :p

Just in case anyone wondered, I'm not an idiot. I kno he is tr00 w3r3 >.>

[BCvonRayfus]

Thank you...that really is my hair...yeah

[xxMatolfxx]

HAHAHA. That is dumb. I am serious. That is very dumb.

[Canis Lupus]

Great photoshop job BC :D Now we all know you are tr00 w3r3! :D

[BCvonRayfus]

Actually, I did it in Paint :D

[John 677808]

Good Job, it looks rather well done, if I do say so myself. :)

[Canis Lupus]

All hail BCvonRayfus, lord of MS Paint! :notworthy

[Malice]

Lol. Beautiful pic. Now all of the evil scientest dudes will come and poke you with their wicked knives.

[BCvonRayfus]

CRAP...I didn't ONCE think of that...:eek:

[Silvus Omoryul]

Kiddo, I'm going to have to get an actual quote from Summers before I'd believe it and honestly I do not have the books nor the time at my disposal to go searching myself. And the time frame for Summers was around the 1930's. Summers was also kind of a looney, I'd read his stuff with a grain of salt, maybe the exception being the Malleus Maleficarum, since those were supposedly from other people who claimed to be witch hunters. Only on the relevance that historically those people believed what they were writing.




I'd be so rich for how many times I've heard that statement and variations of it.




That's hilarious. Yeah the people arguing against werewolves spell worse than the people that are "arguing" for.




In most cases it's trying to get a good debate going so we can see sides and maybe even get very relevant and difficult to disprove proof of existence. Hey crazy, huh? But the majority of time we get people who are so indignant that their posts are being "torn apart" that the best they come up with is "i hav 2 b there and bite you myself to proff it". If people actually discuss with a little bit more meat to their discussions like "werewolves are possible because of such and such a genetic inconsistency and blah blah" then it's a little more buyable, though people will still argue but you just have to relax and not be too fucking serious.

Another thing which I've said a zillion times, if you honestly truly, utterly believe in something but cannot come up with a good argument or just "not in the mood to type a lot" then why post at all yourselves? You should be satisfied that you yourself believe so strongly in such and not have to convince anyone.

Do an action and suffer consequences of said action. Don't be a fucking dope and whine about it. That'll get you no where.

Dude, also your believability factor is way down (than even normal for the anonymous interwebs) because you express about how much weed you smoke all the time. Honestly HONESTLY, do you think people are going to have a lot of faith in what you say online?



I cannot make any sense of that other than "people don't want to believe in anything". I'd have to say I whole heartedly disagree and wish people would open their eyes more to their fellow human beings.

That, is probably one of the most intelligent things I may ever read online. About the "faith in what you believe, and not needing to justify it" thing. And, granted I stopped reading after that, and that because I didn't post that verbatim, I may be burned, or otherwise criticized.
As it goes, threads like these often end up the same, but I'm not judging anything.

[Canis Lupus]

Can I burn you now then? :D

[Silvus Omoryul]

Can I burn you now then? :D

Sure!:D

[thenewbishop]

I like fire, let me burn him

[Silvus Omoryul]

I like fire, let me burn him

*Holds up an extinguisher*
Do what you'd like, I'm good!:D

[xxMatolfxx]

God! Is this thread still going on. Can it be closed please. This thread has got off topic and made no sense in the first place. No point in letting this thread keep going and let more people talk about nonsense on here.

[LV426]

I'd rather confine it to one thread.

[AlphaKnight]

I for one believe in the existence of werewolves. I have seen many strange and wonderful things in my travels, and shape shifting isn't so far out there. Now whether I believe the people here is another thing.....but one never knows!

AlphaSilverBlood

[Moon_Slave]

I for one believe in the existence of werewolves. I have seen many strange and wonderful things in my travels, and shape shifting isn't so far out there. Now whether I believe the people here is another thing.....but one never knows!

AlphaSilverBlood

people try to tell me im crazy but i agree with you to a extent. Im with you...

[sabrina_lycaulf]

Wow, a real werewolf page?! Now that I got to see :) Any wolf people on here? LOL :P

[Moon_Slave]

ya me lol..

[BCvonRayfus]

Aaaw man are you two in for it...:p Don't assume this is a site FOR werewolves...it'll get you burned...it's more for werewolf/ therian enthusiasts.

[McKitty]

Aaaw man are you two in for it...:p Don't assume this is a site FOR werewolves...it'll get you burned...it's more for werewolf/ therian enthusiasts.

Ayup, and a site themed around werewolves where everything else under the sun is discussed too.

[Moon_Slave]

but i love werewolves :D :D

[Shalinda]

Ok, i am so freakin tired of hearing all that "werewolves doesn't exist" and "its just teenagers who think they are something" well you better listen up, i don't care what you think about me, but i feel good with myself not hiding the truth to everyone, damn just look around, its not like people say "Oh the milkman doesn't exist" and do you know why? because he shows himself to the public, thats the same i intend to do, in moderate amounts ofcourse since i don't want to be hunted, but slightly tell one after another about it, its a shame some live in the unknown.
now i don't know how you others feel, but this is my way of seeing it, like it or don't thats your decision.

[MorganaFang]

Ok, i am so freakin tired of hearing all that "werewolves doesn't exist" and "its just teenagers who think they are something"

All I read is "wah wah wah wah I'M FREAKING SPECIAL PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEEE wah wah wah." Get off your high horse there, darlin.

You can believe what you want, but a part of being mature and being a functional member of society is not being so stuck on your opinion that you have to be over zealous in expressing it. Another part of maturity is understanding that there are consequences to every choice you make if you can't handle that they you SHOULD NOT BE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS. Bitching and whining and doing this whole "I'm so freakin...." routine only reflects poorly on you and justifies why people talk about tr00 w3r3's being a bunch of kids that are needing some love... d'awwww...

[Goth Girl]

Yep, we got another 16 year old. You, I've been watching some of these for a while and noticed one thing in commom. All the people between 13 and 16 that come on here as a tr00 w3r3 always end up leaving shortly after joining. They come on, talk highly of themselves, then leave right before or just after getting owned by Morgy, DW, or LV. Yes, if you can't handle how the more mature members criticize your post, then you shouldn't be posting here. Believe what you will but if you want to continue posting without insult you're gonna have to post proof of w3r35 and not just say you are one and don't care what people think, and then get all huffy like most people yer age have. And if you want any hope of believers, you best not run away in the next week, cuz I've noticed ALOT of that. Even before I joined and was reading these forums three years ago people would post a sentence or two than run cuz they couldn't handle the consiquences. So, quick tip. You want to prove something in here, please don't use one liners like most do. And no more just saying you're a w3r3 and leaving it at that. Now I wonder if God will post in here? I'll just have to wait I guess.

[Shalinda]

Im not the type who run away, so bring it on, i just say what i think and what i feel got a problem with that? or are you just sitting there, thinking that all that you say is right, and what others say is wrong? and that you are better than others because you live in your very own little dream world where everything is just plain normal and everything you say is the way it is? damn, your problem must be LACK of attention from others, because you don't have the attention you want, you start saying that all others are just on the lookout for attention in their own way, am i right or am i right?

[MorganaFang]

Im not the type who run away, so bring it on

Uh it's the internet, it's not hard to grow a set of balls.




i just say what i think and what i feel got a problem with that? or are you just sitting there, thinking that all that you say is right, and what others say is wrong? and that you are better than others because you live in your very own little dream world where everything is just plain normal and everything you say is the way it is?

I was 16 once, and I never forget that, I did sound and think a lot of people here. Hell I even had my made for movie moments like you right here where you're on your soap box fighting against the norm of the world. I'm not better or worse than anyone, neither are you. Get over yourself.

damn, your problem must be LACK of attention from others, because you don't have the attention you want, you start saying that all others are just on the lookout for attention in their own way, am i right or am i right?

I felt that way when I was a teenager so I lashed out on messageboards posting crap and livejournal. Claiming to be a witch, werewolf, vampire whatever to get some kind of attention. Then I grew up went to college, got laid a few times and figured out my parents do actually care about me.

So am I attention seeking now? Nah, just occasionally trying to keep kids on their toes. Because I'm a control freak.

So do you feel better now? Have you got all angst out "everyone is out to get me wah wah wah."

go here: www.livejournal.com if you have anymore

[Shalinda]

Nobody is out to get me, i just wander around with humans, and they think im just like them, in some way yes, i look like them at some point, but on the other hand, anyways, yeah you are a control freak and that makes me sick, how some people think they are here to say what others must believe in and what they must do, im around that kind of people everyday and it gives me the creeps, but as i said earlier, you are welcome to believe what you want.

[Goth Girl]

As for me, no, I do not think I'm right all the time. Or even most of the time. I was just trying to give you some advise and tell you what MOST others like you do. If you won't leave then great, more power to ya if you wanna stay and fight. When I first joined I was kinda like you. Thought I was always right, but geez did Morgy ever tear me apart. So sorry if I sounded mean or all high and mighty, but you yourself just sounded that same way in your last post. It's hard to tell other's feelings over the internet, so I may have sounded like one of those people who thinks they're always right, and I just got the impretion you're a brat. While I'm sure you're not, things get taken the wrong way easily online. So sorry if I was mean sounding.

[Shalinda]

I didn't want to sound like a brat, i just mark my meanings and feelings, and im sorry too if you felt any kind of insulted, i don't want to argue if i can prevent it, but i always stick to my own belief, which gets me into trouble way too much

[LV426]

Nobody is out to get me, i just wander around with humans, and they think im just like them, in some way yes, i look like them at some point, but on the other hand, anyways, yeah you are a control freak and that makes me sick, how some people think they are here to say what others must believe in and what they must do, im around that kind of people everyday and it gives me the creeps, but as i said earlier, you are welcome to believe what you want.

Unless you prove unequivocally that you are a werewolf then there is no such thing. I don't want to see another word out of you to the contrary until you've given solid evidence.

In laymans terms it means STFU unless you got the shit to back it up.

[Shalinda]

I can't change shape on purpose, i admit that, but stuff happens when im angry, sad, frustrated, tired or chocked, and thats not the time where i think i better bring up a videocamera to get it on tape, else it is all mentally

[Dark Fang]

I believe in werewolves but I am not one. I might have thought I was at one point, but I was thirteen. No I wasn't doing drugs. It's kinda a long story. Anyway, if a werewolf really was on this site I seriously doubt they would come out and say "Hey everyone, I'm a werewolf." You know why? They'd get made fun of, people might try to stalk them and its stupid. Do you tell random people on the internet your darkest secrets that you don't even tell your friends and family? No. So why would a real were tell a bunch of people they don't know that they're what they are? It just wouldn't happen. I joined this site because of the name. I thought it was all about werewolves. It mainly is. There are those other random threads but most of the threads mention the paranormal in some way shape of form. Anyway, I have no idea where I'm going with this.

[Shalinda]

How bout we just stay off topic then morgy? that make you happy?

[MorganaFang]

How bout we just stay off topic then morgy? that make you happy?

Get one of your friends and/or parents to record you being a "real werewolf" and I might just send an oh so sugary sweet smile your way.

[Shalinda]

The only proof you ever get is my word, deal with it as you like, if you want more then seek me out, and i will show you... if you dare

[LV426]

The only proof you ever get is my word, deal with it as you like, if you want more then seek me out, and i will show you... if you dare

So in other words you are just another wanna be werewolf trying to impress the internet world with your fur. Dude, grow up and get a life.

[Shalinda]

I already got a life, so why should i get another? i could take somebodys life if i had to, but then they would really have to piss me off

[MorganaFang]

I already got a life, so why should i get another? i could take somebodys life if i had to, but then they would really have to piss me off

So... are your parents werewolves? and how do they feel about you posting this "fact" on the internet?

Also threats (or threat like language) are a huge sign of weakness and a waste of time. Actions speak louder than words.

[Shalinda]

my past is none of your bussiness, only people i trust can get such valuable information, and you are not one of them, who am i threatening btw? i just say i can take somebodys life if i need to, i bet you can too, if it is your last resort.

[MorganaFang]

my past is none of your bussiness, only people i trust can get such valuable information, and you are not one of them, who am i threatening btw? i just say i can take somebodys life if i need to, i bet you can too, if it is your last resort.

You're 16, normally 16 year olds have parents are some sort of parents and most of those parents these days are fairly oblivious to their kid's online activity. Most tr00 w3r3s ever factor in the explanation of their family accepting them talking about being a werewolf on a online forum. I like asking because it amuses the hell out of me some of the responses I get. I have to say yours is quite as funny as well. I'm aware kids can have pasts just as much as any adult but the chances of a truly sordid history is pretty nil. Why do I think that? Um some how you are on a computer and competent enough to write and post online showing that you've had some experience in the world wide web.

Also about taking someone's life. I really don't feel it as necessary to mention it, all people are capable of such. Saying something like that communicates something very unhealthy about the state of mind of the person staying it.

[Shalinda]

My personal life doesnt concern you a bit morgy, when do you get it? you got a sick humor if you find it amusing when someone tells you something like this. ahh yes, MOST parents know what their kids are doing on the internet, but i doubt my parents think that much about that, and there is a very good reason to that, which is none of your bussiness either.
yes, everybody can kill, some do it by accident, some because they are crazy and then those who do it to survive, which one of these fits you the best you think? hm? take your time and think about it.

[MorganaFang]

yes, everybody can kill, some do it by accident, some because they are crazy and then those who do it to survive, which one of these fits you the best you think? hm? take your time and think about it.

I fit in the bracket of people that don't need to kill others or act like they can. Also I live without a guise of being something I'm not. Hey go figure.

Grow up. The hit and be hit mentality is the weakest mindset to have. You may survive several "battles" but you'll not win out in the long run.

[ThrasherCub]

My personal life doesnt concern you a bit morgy,
When you directly or indirectly bring it up in a public forum, it doesn't matter. If Morgana is talking about your personal life and you didn't want that, then you probably shouldn't have brought it up. She's not a mind-reader so far as I am aware, and therefore it is impossible for her to start on such a topic unless you gave her something to work with.

you got a sick humor if you find it amusing when someone tells you something like this.
Nothing is sick about finding it amusing when someone makes oneself look foolish. It may not be terribly nice, but it's not like she went out of her way to find someone in said situation. For some reason they always make house calls to the forum.

yes, everybody can kill, some do it by accident, some because they are crazy and then those who do it to survive, which one of these fits you the best you think? hm? take your time and think about it.
I kill only indirectly and, rather rarely, on accident. My indirect killings would be the animals I consume the meat of, which I suppose lies somewhere between survival and my own comfort. Indirect killings are when I manage to step on cockroachs (which always insist on sitting on the sidewalk and then not running from me even a little) during my eavening walks despite attempts to avoid them.

Here's one for you; all people can lie. Some do it out of fear, some for fun, some even do it on accident. Why not take your time to think about it and decide which one best fits you?

[Shalinda]

I believe is is you who pretend you are something you are not, you think you know something right? well if that isnt what we call a self-delusion i dont know what to call it.
you dont like killing people? nor do i, but if it is needed... well, when you gotta go the you gotta go
right?

anyways, do you feel like keep trying to mock me and prove that i am wrong? because if that is your primary goal at the moment, then let me tell you, that you are going to keep doing this for a long, long time

have a nice day
Tim

[ThrasherCub]

I believe is is you who pretend you are something you are not, you think you know something right?
Actually I acknowledge that there are many things that I know which only apply to my microcosmic manifest universe (making them very small facts indeed), and I also realize that while the word "know" implies a 0% chance of said knowledge being incorrect (or at least the belief that such is true), that such things can never be. In short, when I say that I know something, it is merely a less long-winded way of saying, that I know it as much as I can.

Addressing the previous part of the statement, what exactly is it that I am pretending to be which I am not?

you dont like killing people? nor do i, but if it is needed... well, when you gotta go the you gotta go
right?
I do indeed dislike the idea of killing people, and I do agree that there are perhaps times when it is needed. However, this is not what we have been discussing. The topic at hand is the mental stability of one who brings it up in conversation as you did.

anyways, do you feel like keep trying to mock me and prove that i am wrong?
I'm not trying to mock you, I am just plain mocking you. "Try" indicates a possible faiure. Also, I am not trying to prove that you are wrong so much as attemting to have fun at the expense of the silly things you have said. Hopefully it will be so irritating or disheartening that you'll just stop, thereby giving your mind a chance to let go of this silly fantasy. The best part is that even if that fails, the rest of us who aren't fabricating amazing tales of why we are special will have a good laugh.

that you are going to keep doing this for a long, long time
Every Coyote's wet dream. You act as if this is some chore. While I'd certainly rather that there were simply no idiots loitering on the forum, there is a special (and rather grand) enjoyment I get from mocking the intellectually lame.:)

[Shalinda]

That message was not for you, it was adressed to Morgy

[ThrasherCub]

Public forum; Anyone can reply to anything, and I suspect the only difference is that Morgana wants you to shut up and/or recieve therapy sooner than I do.

[NeonLightChild]

I believe is is you who pretend you are something you are not, you think you know something right? well if that isnt what we call a self-delusion i dont know what to call it.
you dont like killing people? nor do i, but if it is needed... well, when you gotta go the you gotta go
right?
Excuse me, "pretend" that I'm something I'm not? I've had blood tests, medical examinations and shots all my life and everything that comes out of them indicates that I am fully human. You call that a "delusion"? Unless you're referring to the fact that I've managed to hide that horse and wolf DNA inside my body somehow...oh WAIT, it's not there! Silly me!

anyways, do you feel like keep trying to mock me and prove that i am wrong? because if that is your primary goal at the moment, then let me tell you, that you are going to keep doing this for a long, long time
If you keep trying to prove us wrong, you'll have one of two outcomes: either we prove you wrong outright, or in the interest of MATURITY, we let the argument drop and ignore your attention-whorish rants. And there is, fortunately, a third outcome that can occur, however you seem to be digging your heels in and throwing a childish temper-tantrum that "I DON'T HAFTA CUZ I DON'T WANNA!" each time we ask for a video of you being a "werewolf."

And what's this whole thing about killing people, I mean, where does that come into play? Because, going by what you've said, because you can apparently kill people "so easily," you must've done it before, and to understand that it was "easy," you had to have had several victims to test whether the kill was indeed easy or very difficult. And the sad thing for you is that most healthy, fit humans don't go down so easy, even when unarmed (knife, gun, etc). Which means that you prey on the weak, which as a human only makes you one thing: a coward. Times two, because you're too afraid to show us that when you "shift" into a "Werewolf," all that happens is you bare your teeth and growl which, guess what: I can do it too! AAGGHHH I'm a werewolf!! Ooooo, scary. Oops, was that taunting and mocking you? Oh, silly me...I shall definitely be killed by you one day for that...oh dear, I shall fear for my life...EVERYBODY PANIC!

You lose at life.

[Shalinda]

You decide for yourself what to believe in, and what not, but i must inform you, that if you one day take off those purple glass shades, you might get a heart attack, your kind simply doesnt have the will to accept the truth, and that is why you keep staying with the stuff your mind made up, when you say "Werewolves doesnt exists" your mind fits into that, and keeps you in that stage, with a great lack of truth.

i dont know how the killing got into this, i dont care anyway, but to your information, i have been threatened once with a gun to my back... now who is a coward in that situation eh? the unarmed, or the armed one trying to rob you? is it then wrong to do your best to fight them off, even if it comes to killing them?

and i wonder how a chicken like you ever got the nerve to check out a site like this, if you are afraid i am going to kill you, because i wont, i have 2 reason for that.

1: Waste of my time finding you

2: i only kill people who deserve it, i know everyone can be a jerk on the outside, just to play tough, but deep inside, most people are good, there are also the deep down bastards, and they do not deserve to live.

[ThrasherCub]

...EVERYBODY PANIC!
Props to Neon!

You decide for yourself what to believe in, and what not, but i must inform you, that if you one day take off those purple glass shades, you might get a heart attack, your kind simply doesnt have the will to accept the truth, and that is why you keep staying with the stuff your mind made up, when you say "Werewolves doesnt exists" your mind fits into that, and keeps you in that stage, with a great lack of truth.
I love the random crap about purple shades and heart attacks.

i dont know how the killing got into this,
You randomly brought it up on page 9.

i have been threatened once with a gun to my back... now who is a coward in that situation eh?
Having actually been a would-be victim of a mugger, you manage to fool me not.

i only kill people who deserve it
I doubt you to be much of a killer. In all honesty, I suspect it would take me less than 16 seconds to subdue you in a fight.

Also, for the record, I believe in werewolves.

Neon's right. You lose at life.

[Shalinda]

Your welcome to think i loose at life, but are you sur that i am the actual looser? and not yourself?

[NeonLightChild]

You decide for yourself what to believe in, and what not, but i must inform you, that if you one day take off those purple glass shades, you might get a heart attack, your kind simply doesnt have the will to accept the truth, and that is why you keep staying with the stuff your mind made up, when you say "Werewolves doesnt exists" your mind fits into that, and keeps you in that stage, with a great lack of truth.
Biggest. Run-on. EVAR. Oh, and I did already. It's a mad world out there and oops, too bad I survived it using my l33t hy00m4n-ness. Doesn't take much, just a little determination and a reminder to clean the apartment every once in a while when the maggots appear.

and i wonder how a chicken like you ever got the nerve to check out a site like this, if you are afraid i am going to kill you, because i wont, i have 2 reason for that.

1: Waste of my time finding you

2: i only kill people who deserve it, i know everyone can be a jerk on the outside, just to play tough, but deep inside, most people are good, there are also the deep down bastards, and they do not deserve to live.

Dude, you just completely missed my point]. And pulling a grand ol' Boondock Saints-style of life ain't exactly worth it.

Let me know how the real world is when mommy and daddy aren't there to give you a roof over your head, food on your plate and extra money for when working part-time doesn't yield enough.

Cheers!

[ThrasherCub]

are you sur that i am the actual looser? and not yourself?
Yes.

http://emoto.smugmug.com/photos/111970090-S.jpg

[Shalinda]

Nice pic, i guess thats you...hah, who am i trying to fool? it is you. anyways, how can you be so sure that you are right? can you tell me that... if your wicked mind can come up with any good excuse that would be good.

and let me tell you this much, my mommy and daddy aint giving me roof over my head anymore, but they are still with me.

[NeonLightChild]

Nice pic, i guess thats you...hah, who am i trying to fool? it is you.

Who's mocking who now, huh? Don't dish it out if you can't take it. You're a coward.

Times THREE now.

You OFFICIALLY lose at life. Go away or something like that.

[ThrasherCub]

First off, how can I be sure you're a loser?
In your first post you announced that you're a werewolf, showing that you failed to actually read and understand anything about the forum. You are therefore either lazy or stupid.
You make things up about being a werewolf which tells two things. First of all, that you must make things up in the first place indicates a lack of feeling of self worth, conscious or not, or something closely related thereto. The other thing it tells me is that you have failed to actually study werewolves in anything other than movies and old myths, indicating either laziness or a fear that it may accidentally discover that you are lying to yourself.
You appear to hold a personal grudge against Morgana, as can be seen here (http://www.werewolf.com/vb/showthread.php?p=211 816#post211816) where you are evidently angry with Morgana because she stated a simple fact.
You appear to put no effort into spelling, and even the most basic parts of psychology are evidently beyond your grasp, despite the fact that you (obviously) have internet access and can therefore easily learn about it and make yourself appear much less stupid.

How can I be so sure I am not the loser here? I'm an accomplished martial artist well on my way to reaching many of my life's goals, and due to my current employment, I'm half-living one of them. I am currently an assistant teacher/tutor at the local college, specifically as an aid in the humanities-philosophy department, where I personally specialize in the philosophy and religion of Asia. I currently run my own rather successful Discordian Cabal, sell assorted art wares for spare change, and am in a happy relationship. I have come to terms with my incredibly unpleasant past, including quite a few things which I myself did which were much less than savory.

...

You still appear to be the loser and I still appear not to be.

[Shalinda]

oh, you think that, even tho i allow you peeps to throw anything you got at me, i wont strike back when i get the chance?

come on, you gotta be smarter than that... or... no on second thought, maybe not.

so, you feel that because you got a job and that, you are not a looser? i know many people who got a job, and a relationship, and money, but they are still loosers, and do you know where you can put your martial arts? in a suitcase, then you can take it with you on a ship out of this world, along with some other disgusting and anoying elements.

[ThrasherCub]

come on, you gotta be smarter than that... or... no on second thought, maybe not
I nearly had to leave the office; uncontrollable laughter.

I love that Neon and I have posted well thought out replies which actually include logic and quotations, and your's includes a slightly more long-winded version, "Heh heh... yur dum!"

[Shalinda]

Its good you got a bunch of humor, nobody has died of having fun before.

[ThrasherCub]

I have to go; work calls.

I figure this thread has a pretty good chance of being closed or deleted. Possibly before I get a chance to see it again.

So, since you loved the other picture so much, I leave you with this;

http://emoto.smugmug.com/photos/114821689-S.jpg

[Shalinda]

Have a good day at work then

[LV426]

I'm just curious how not being werewolves like you makes us losers? I mean let's see, most of us who have opposed your assanine suppositions that you a werewolf all have some form of college education and have explored the realm of werewolves far beyond just clicking a site on google and saying "I'm a werewolf". We've systematically gone through your tortured threads and dismantled them into inconsistencies and yet your only defense to this is "you are all losers and don't know who I am". Now mind you this is amusing and all. I mean it rates up there with a 3rd grade school yard argument. But the fact of the matter is that werewolves do not exist. There has been no scientific evidence to prove that they exist. In every culture around the world there are legends and myths that allude to these mysterious half man half animal creatures and yet with today's technology we have yet to find any real concrete evidence to support them.

So when you crawl out of the internet sewer and claim that you are the all powerful werewolf and then demand that we just believe you because you said so, well you must think we are really stupid. Sorry, "believe me because I said so" doesn't cut it in the real world. Your claim to werewolfism is simply a whiny teenager's cry for attention in effort to claim that no one understands you so you can wander the earth alone like the Incredible Hulk except for the fact that you are nothing more than a whiny brat. Honestly, your entire claim to fame is a mythology wet dream and one that is old. So old that the entire website has moved on past your pathetic cry for attention about 5 years ago.

True losers are people like you who instead of doing something with their lives they sit on the internet and try to make people think they are so special by pretending to be something they aren't. Guess what, you're human like the rest of us, get over it.

[Shalinda]

I have never said that you absolutely have to believe me have i? actually, what i said was "believe what you want".
ím not forcing anyone to believe me, those who want to believe it are welcome to do so, those who dont want to... well thats not my problem

[NeonLightChild]

I have never said that you absolutely have to believe me have i? actually, what i said was "believe what you want".
ím not forcing anyone to believe me, those who want to believe it are welcome to do so, those who dont want to... well thats not my problem

Where to start, where to start...
Ok, i am so freakin tired of hearing all that "werewolves doesn't exist" and "its just teenagers who think they are something" well you better listen up, i don't care what you think about me, but i feel good with myself not hiding the truth to everyone, damn just look around, its not like people say "Oh the milkman doesn't exist" and do you know why? because he shows himself to the public, thats the same i intend to do, in moderate amounts ofcourse since i don't want to be hunted, but slightly tell one after another about it, its a shame some live in the unknown.
now i don't know how you others feel, but this is my way of seeing it
Read between the lines: I'm right, you're wrong. Even the most intelligent, titled PhDs don't say anything like "You better listen up." Cognitive development occurs before emotional development, though here I'm tempted to say otherwise.

Im not the type who run away, so bring it on, i just say what i think and what i feel got a problem with that? or are you just sitting there, thinking that all that you say is right, and what others say is wrong? and that you are better than others because you live in your very own little dream world where everything is just plain normal and everything you say is the way it is?
i just wander around with humans, and they think im just like them, in some way yes, i look like them at some point, but on the other hand, anyways,
"Anyways" what? And from that same thread...
but as i said earlier, you are welcome to believe what you want.
That's the FIRST time yo'uve said that. The other time was "I don't care what you think," which implies once again that "I'm right, you're wrong, and I don't care what you think because you're wrong anyway."

The only proof you ever get is my word, deal with it as you like, if you want more then seek me out, and i will show you... if you dare
"I'm right, you're wrong, and if not I'll kill you because it's so 'easy' and I'm so good at it." Cowardly, dude, waaay cowardly., backed up by
i could take somebodys life if i had to, but then they would really have to piss me off
meaning that if we searched you out since you've otherwise proved to us via temper-tantrums that you're really a werewolf, you'll get pissed at us for proving you wrong once we get there and end up killing us anyway. Give us a way out that doesn't result in our deaths, please.

my past is none of your bussiness, only people i trust can get such valuable information, and you are not one of them
So you trust the entire world with your "secret" on a PUBLIC forum, but your past is too...let's say..."angst- and depression-ridden" to be made public? Not exactly on topic, but I figured I'd say that anyway.

I believe is is you who pretend you are something you are not, you think you know something right? well if that isnt what we call a self-delusion i dont know what to call it. [...] anyways, do you feel like keep trying to mock me and prove that i am wrong?
BINGO!! "I'm right, you're wrong!"

Care to try that again?

[Shalinda]

Ah yes, once again a bunch of quotes, well, if you read it properly, there is nowhere in any of those text where i actually say " i am right, you are wrong" your mind may trick you to think thats what it says, just so you have something to argue about.
ever given that a thought?

[MorganaFang]

Ah yes, once again a bunch of quotes, well, if you read it properly, there is nowhere in any of those text where i actually say " i am right, you are wrong" your mind may trick you to think thats what it says, just so you have something to argue about.
ever given that a thought?

Granted you're location thing claims you hail from Denmark, but the idea of "reading between the lines" is pretty universal. You are not directly saying it but anyone with an inkling of psychology education understands that the way you are presenting yourself (through word usage, sentence structure, punctuation..lalala) that you have a definite superiority complex going for your own "opinion." It is not a mind trick, it is the choices you are making to present yourself. Sorry it works that way.

Eh and I'll admit it I kick a kick out of bugging teenagers online. I do not feel I misrepresent myself at all there, I'm pretty direct.

As for the parents thing... (s'cuse me but I needs my immaturity for this one) HAHA! Oh man! I was waiting for that, so you're now implying your parents are removed from your life, either by death or something else that was rather dramatic. Not that I need to know nor do I care. A fairly common response actually. I just was curious to see which way you would compensate for being a youthful werewolf with too much free reign over what they will share with the public.

Thrasher, Neon, LV, I love you guys for being more put together than me in your statements.

[Zombie]

~snoooooze~ *wakes up* "Will you damn kids turn off that doggone racket?! Some of us are trying to sleep!" ~snoooooze~:p :p :p :D

-Z:D

[LV426]

As for the parents thing... (s'cuse me but I needs my immaturity for this one) HAHA! Oh man! I was waiting for that, so you're now implying your parents are removed from your life, either by death or something else that was rather dramatic. Not that I need to know nor do I care. A fairly common response actually. I just was curious to see which way you would compensate for being a youthful werewolf with too much free reign over what they will share with the public.

Thrasher, Neon, LV, I love you guys for being more put together than me in your statements.

I think he ate them. His parent that is.

[NeonLightChild]

Ah yes, once again a bunch of quotes, well, if you read it properly, there is nowhere in any of those text where i actually say " i am right, you are wrong" your mind may trick you to think thats what it says, just so you have something to argue about.
ever given that a thought?

"Werewolf!"
"Werewolf?"
"There."
"What?"
"There, wolf. There, castle."
"Why are you talking that way?"
"I thought you wanted to."
"No, I don't want to."
"Suit yourself. I'm easy."

Oh and, um...
oh, you think that, even tho i allow you peeps to throw anything you got at me, i wont strike back when i get the chance?

come on, you gotta be smarter than that... or... no on second thought, maybe not.
You completely missed my point. AGAIN.

You're more than allowed to strike back. HOWEVER, an accomplished debate artist who is confident in his position will strike back using examples, logic and statistics (however flawed they may be). You did nothing of the sort. Meaning that You Missed My Point x2, you Lose At Life x3, and you're a Coward x3.

And one more thing.
your mind may trick you to think thats what it says, just so you have something to argue about.
Yes, the mind is a powerful tool. Think before you start talking shite like that to a psych major. Clinical lycanthropy is nothing to boast about.

[deathjoker]

...
WHAT!!!
*smacks face with hands and screams*
You have to be kidding me... For the 50th time.
Hey LV426, how can you let this go on, eh?
Man, you know what, i'm not saying anything.

(the following statement is directed at all werewolves): Uh, no.

Thank you

[Shalinda]

So, just because you are some quack you think you know how other people are like?
i think you should start concentrating more on what is possible, than what you "think" is not possible
you are so manipulated by what people around you think is worth believing.
and since when did i loose at life?
tell me that dr. doolittle

[MorganaFang]

and since when did i loose at life?
tell me that dr. doolittle

Well for one, despite people spelling it accurately in their posts you continue to spell lose "l-o-o-s-e."

Loose means something else entirely. :D

[Layira Aura]

Well, if everyone has such a problem with Shalinda claiming to be a werewolf, then why are you still talking about it? Its a public forum, people are allowed to say just about whatever they want, and apparently, claiming to be a werewolf isn't one of those things.

You can have your beliefs, but that gives you no reason to scorn another's. Whether or not Shalinda actually is a werewolf isn't by my determination; so if you have a problem with it, then just don't talk about it. Arguing over it will accomplish nothing, especially since it hasn't so far.

LV, Morgana, and whoever else is in this argument, just drop it. No one's getting what they want and to continue this senseless conversation would be a waste of space. And name calling won't help either. Shalinda, we spoke before on this issue so you know that I am not necessarily taking sides, just making a point. And I am not singling anyone out other than Lv, and Morgana because they seemed to have decided to persistently prove Shalinda 'wrong'.

So let me say this. There is no right or wrong, just opinion. And you may think that Shalinda's opinion is wrong, that's your choice and no one can change your mind. However, that gives you no right to continually put Shalinda down by correcting him(? sorry, don't really know. you can fix that if I'm wrong.) and calling him a loser. It doesn't solve anything, so stop. Honestly, let's just close this thread so no one has a chance to do anymore damage to our "peaceful little community". (as if)

I am requesting that this thread be closed. And if you ignore me, that's fine. Maybe it would have been better for all of us if you had ignored Shalinda in the first place. But I will remind you that this thread is specifically calling to all werewolves to say what they want. So I think that includes Shalinda as well. Again, just let it go. We're all acting like a bunch of kids and not really going anywhere with our technical language; and it seems like you are trying to outdo each other with your 'facts'. This isn't a contest; We aren't war veterans comparing our scars, and there is no reason to bring in schooling and personal achievements, that just suggests that you are conceited and hubris.

Let me say that almost none of this is singled out, except for when I did mention a few names; otherwise, this goes for everyone and generalized for everyone in the forum now and those who will be.

Have a wonderful day!

~*Layira Aura*~

[LV426]

Stating that one is a werewolf is not a matter of opinion. There is a right or a wrong answer. There is indeed either factual evidence to prove that one is a werewolf or is not a werewolf.

Now if Shalinda had stated, in my opinion I believe I am a werewolf, then I would have countered, in my opinion I believe you are an idiot.

There is no Belief involved when someone clearly states "I am a werewolf".

Oh and you can call to close a topic as much as you want but it's not your choice. If someone wants to act like a fool and post on a public forum that he is a werewolf then he should expect that there will be those who will refute his claim. We refute that claim by using logic and science, the tools of our education. If you can't deal with someone making better use of their intelligence than you, perhaps you need to run along to some other forum.

[MorganaFang]

Well, if everyone has such a problem with Shalinda claiming to be a werewolf, then why are you still talking about it? Its a public forum, people are allowed to say just about whatever they want, and apparently, claiming to be a werewolf isn't one of those things.

People are just as entitled to argue differently especially when a person presents their original post in a challenging manner.

You can have your beliefs, but that gives you no reason to scorn another's.

Funny enough, I did not really question his belief of being a werewolf until he started going after my butt in posts. And then with good humor intended I poked a little fun.

Basically, I just wanted him to know that coming on too a board and whining about how no one believes him or doing the whole tough guy routine is not well loved. If he wanted to be taken seriously he should try behaving in another manner instead of an angst ridden post.


And I am not singling anyone out other than Lv, and Morgana because they seemed to have decided to persistently prove Shalinda 'wrong'.

Okay, first off, drop it yourself. I'm just playing around and LV is doing her own thing. If you take the internet too seriously or Shalinda does then you are both seriously in need of some help.
I never challenged his beliefs, nor was I trying to prove him wrong. You obviously blurred over my posts. He kept challenging me, so I went by his signature and bit back.


Honestly, let's just close this thread so no one has a chance to do anymore damage to our "peaceful little community". (as if)

I have been on ww.com since I was 14 years old, that's pathetically 7 years. Never has this place really been all that peaceful.

Okay look, because I have been here so long and because I have seen this shit time and time again I'll admit maybe just maybe I am way too abrasive about it. But so what?! When I was fourteen and talking the same shit I got attack, or even better, for you "know it all kids" I acquired a couple of online stalkers because I was a tr00 w3r3 looking for other tr00 w3r3. For the most part now I try to get others not to have that kind of bullshit happen to them.

I break apart their posts. Try to tell them they should clearly think about what they are saying and not for the love of god, whine or moan about life. Also the most important thing...

If you truly believe something about yourself, to the point that you could care less who believes you then you should not have to fight and argue your case. Basically you should be happy that you alone know what you know, if others can't handle it then that is them, they don't need to be convinced because a lot of them will not change their thoughts until presented with good reason. People will find you who have common values, it does happen eventually being an adolescent is just difficult and weirdly enough the internet makes it worse because it caters to people not being brave enough to voices themselves out in the real world.

I am requesting that this thread be closed. And if you ignore me, that's fine.

pm a mod or admin then, you just upped the drama for calling me and LV out and though I cannot speak for her. I entirely despise being called out especially when my side of things is totally over looked and misinterpreted. It's a consequence I have to face by choosing to be a bit harsher to the juvvies on here but still I have a lack of appreciation for it.

Maybe it would have been better for all of us if you had ignored Shalinda in the first place. But I will remind you that this thread is specifically calling to all werewolves to say what they want. So I think that includes Shalinda as well.

His first post was virtually a challenge and also this is a discussion board, discussion can include debate believe it or not. Most people who have replied to shalinda did not flame him they were trying to make sense of what he was saying and then challenging him back. That's basically an engaged discussion if he or other people cannot handle that then they should move to a board that caters more to lazy people.
Obviously, shalinda was getting a bit of a rise out the thread himself or else he would not have written back so often.



Again, just let it go. We're all acting like a bunch of kids and not really going anywhere with our technical language; and it seems like you are trying to outdo each other with your 'facts'. This isn't a contest; We aren't war veterans comparing our scars, and there is no reason to bring in schooling and personal achievements, that just suggests that you are conceited and hubris.

Oh lord, please. Well kudos on using "hubris" at least but get over your high and mighty self righteousness. If you do not want to read this stuff, don't read it. It's not like people are loudly arguing in front of you, you can just close the browser window. It's the internet folks, when you make a decision to say something, you need to consider all the consequences and online those consequences are pretty unbearable at times. Like having spelling/grammar nazis or a bunch of doubting Thomas-es.

Let me say that almost none of this is singled out, except for when I did mention a few names; otherwise, this goes for everyone and generalized for everyone in the forum now and those who will be.

You made a bigger deal out of this than anyone who was actually involved. Good job.

[Shalinda]

So, you take my statement as a challenge?
you feel that because i go to a thread that actually asks werewolves to speak up, i am challenging you?
well ok, if thats how you want it, im gonna stand my ground, give it your worst.

[MorganaFang]

So, you take my statement as a challenge?
you feel that because i go to a thread that actually asks werewolves to speak up, i am challenging you?
well ok, if thats how you want it, im gonna stand my ground, give it your worst.

It's sad because you have such the redeeming factor that you actually use decent sentence structure and can spell (for the most part), if only the content was not so poor.

The last thing I want is to have more the conversation of were wolves existing being "yeah huh", "nahuh." Because the reality of where I stand in that conversation is "I would very much like to believe werewolves exist because they are cool but could you please write something that makes sense and is convincing enough?" I am actually a lot more convinced by people who just say they are a shapeshifter and leave it at that. They don't feel need to explain or challenge, they just say that and are done.

[xxMatolfxx]

I go with Morgan. Though Morgan people do like to object to what people post on that subject on here. You should know that. Not saying that you don't. I remember when I did what he did and I stopped. I learned good and fast to keep my mouth shut about that topic. Though I will speak out about it every now and then when I can't help myself.

[Goth Girl]

Same thing here, Shali. Eventually you might get it. Morgy is just one of those people you hate to end up loving. And even though you fight her now and may still in the future you should listen to her. Matolf and I were just like you when we came here but after many, many arguments with Morgy and getting our asses handed to us on a platter, we kind of learned from her. And she actually tries to help too sometimes. So listen to her. Come back and post with a longer message. Get more info and more detailed and she may start even giving you credits for the effort. Man was I poor at spelling before fighting with her. But she wouldn't stop chewing me out and now I am mutch better. Though I do still have problems and there are a few words that I just like spelling differently.

[Shield_Wulf]

It's sad because you have such the redeeming factor that you actually use decent sentence structure and can spell (for the most part), if only the content was not so poor.

The last thing I want is to have more the conversation of were wolves existing being "yeah huh", "nahuh." Because the reality of where I stand in that conversation is "I would very much like to believe werewolves exist because they are cool but could you please write something that makes sense and is convincing enough?" I am actually a lot more convinced by people who just say they are a shapeshifter and leave it at that. They don't feel need to explain or challenge, they just say that and are done.

Well if that's all it takes then I'm a Dragon end of case. :D But I really have to agree with Morgy and God on this one. If you really believe you are something that other might not that okay, ether don't tell people or fight them about and things won't come down to this.

[MorganaFang]

I go with Morgan. Though Morgan people do like to object to what people post on that subject on here. You should know that. Not saying that you don't. I remember when I did what he did and I stopped. I learned good and fast to keep my mouth shut about that topic. Though I will speak out about it every now and then when I can't help myself.

Eheh, Well lemme see, maybe what I said in the prior post came off a little funky. But you are right others do go after people who do just post that they are a were and leave it at that. But y'know it's all in how the original poster decides to receive the objections.

If some "were-posters" just let the hits roll off their back and keep a good humor all the same about things it is pretty admirable.

When a "were-poster" takes the objections too seriously and feels they have to macho it up by "standing ground", or mentioning taking lives or whatever that is faulty and prey to more people going after them.

I do know some werewolf believers out there do tend to feel (when they post and have people "attacking" their statement) very offended. But apart of maturity is learning to let go. If you don't think you can handle a strong argument then just don't post back and be contented with what you yourself know to be true. I say that time and time again, but being that way helps me a lot. Also you need to considerate of the people arguing against. Consider why they may feel differently? and be possibly understanding of it. I know they might not always be that way towards you, but "you" can be better than "them".

These are just things I've learned for myself.

Woo writing errors abound, I'm tired :p

[NeonLightChild]

So, just because you are some quack you think you know how other people are like?
i think you should start concentrating more on what is possible, than what you "think" is not possible
you are so manipulated by what people around you think is worth believing.
and since when did i loose at life?
tell me that dr. doolittle

OK, well first, you resorted to calling me names. Not only is that a hallmark of some serious immaturity goin' on, but it's also the mark of someone who's reached the end of their rope and arguing out of pure emotion rather than facts and logic. And we all know where arguing out of pure emotion gets you...right? Or do I need to actually point to you so you'll understand who I'm talking about?

Second of all, YOU are not in school with a walking DSM-IV as a professor of most of your major classes. Nor are you in classes with professors who have interviewed and interacted with numerous serial killers and convicted criminals. So, my point of preference is that you don't call me or any of my professors "quacks." Because if you want a "quack," I can refer you to plenty of other people, most of whom are actually out there in the professional world treating people in very unethical ways for very real medical conditions.

Third, you called ME a "quack." Name me ONE person who has gone through grad school and received his/her PhD at my age and actively practicing in the real world as a psychologist who ISN'T a quack. So, using this logic, you should be thinking "____________________ _________" and making logical conclusions as to my level of education.

Fourth, we do concentrate on what is possible, but strictly within reason. For example, it is truly possible that Hitler had issues with the oral stage of psychosexual development because he was weaned significantly later than his siblings. It's possible that Charles Manson modeled his actions on those of his prostitute mother who also tended to commit crimes to get money and drugs as well as his fellow prisoners, so therefore he learned to just take what he wanted. Are these true? In theory, yes. In reality, who knows...remember, theories are just like gods: you believe that some are better than others.

So using this, we can ask "Are you a werewolf?" In theory, you have ears, fur, fangs, and a tail. In reality, like my answer above, who knows. Unfortunately for you, it's a proven fact of science that the energy needed to change forms (especially if you're going back and forth as a "werewolf" might do) is simply not available to humans. Might it be in the future? Maybe, and hell if someone could make something that allowed us the energy we needed to shapeshift, you certainly wouldn't be the only one jumping all over it.

Let's try this again: Grow up, get a proper education, at least do some intertube research so you don't come across as a complete dumbass, and for heaven's sake, stop making run-on sentences.

I do know some werewolf believers out there do tend to feel (when they post and have people "attacking" their statement) very offended. But apart of maturity is learning to let go. If you don't think you can handle a strong argument then just don't post back and be contented with what you yourself know to be true. I say that time and time again, but being that way helps me a lot. Also you need to considerate of the people arguing against. Consider why they may feel differently? and be possibly understanding of it. I know they might not always be that way towards you, but "you" can be better than "them".
Hear, hear! I figure this can be the end of my witty, logical and educated opinions and facts. Poor baby's got a hard road ahead of him if this is how he lives. Many cheers, props to my gals LV, Morgy, Thrasher and GG, and peace out, y'all!

[Werewolfchick]

Blah...you go get a life, let people believe what they want to believe in! Who would think we would be worshiping a guy named Jesus way back when that name still meant well just any old name.

Good reason...

But seriously, WEREWOLFS?!? thats just stupid.

How many more people are going to walk on in here and claim that they are a werewolf? Its getting quite annoying. Why not respond to the other "werewolf"'s threads instead of making new threads with the same question over and over again.

[MorganaFang]

Blah...you go get a life, let people believe what they want to believe in! Who would think we would be worshiping a guy named Jesus way back when that name still meant well just any old name.

Oh yes because Jesus is so much less feesible than a werewolf.

Which by the by, whether or not the guy is a werewolf is not being argued, it's how much they have presented themselves as a jerk and indirectly threatening other members.

Hey, actually reading posts and not generalizing or maybe not reading and not posting a very unnecessary post might be worth it for you.

[Goth Girl]

And the fact that it was recorded that Jesus lived. Whether or not you beleive he's the son of God I don't care but the fact is it's proven he was alive and had indeed been executed in which way that he had. Where, or should I say were as, there are no documented records reguarding werecreatures of any kind. Energy. How do you know if you need alot of energy to shift? Maybe werewolves gain an extra organ that pumps adrenaline at a higher rate or something like that to change. Then again the brain alone can produce vast amounts of energy in some people. So maybe some would have the needed energy. I've been studying the human body since I was three and my dad had gotten me into it. Heck, on Montel the other day I saw something about a kid who was blind and around age three he taught himself to learn echo comunication. Something that scientists thought that only bats and few insectiods have only been able to fathom. But now a boy is able to click his tongue against his teeth and actually watch the sound waves bounce off of his surroundings. Heck, this kid can skateboard and even PLAY VIDEO games better than anyone I know and his eyes are made of plastic. I have taught myself to rely on sound in an almost similar manor. I can tell you when a phone will ring up to ten seconds before it happens cuz I can hear the electricity running through the wires outside my house. Taking that hearing test at school I'd always raise my arm before the sound came cuz I could hear the little buzz just as she barely touched the button. And in nearly complete darkness I see in wire frame. A gift I've had since five. I taught myself for years on some of the things I can do but at least I know I can do them. Which is why I know stuff like the kid who can see sound is possible and shifter may too. Heck, even I can shift in ways. Nearly every major bone in my body can easily dis-locate. And just as easily pop back into place. I've been teaching myself that since I was almost ten. Now I really don't care if you beleive me, cuz hey, you can come on over if you want. I know West and Morgy and Sai live around here somewhere. But if you look for cases like this you'll find that the human brain, even the human body, is far more than capable of preforming non-human actions and feats. A woman who can lift a Ford F-250 off of her dying husband or even a woman who lifts a friggin bus off of her child. A guy so magnetic he can cling to your refridgerator. Hell, I know plenty of people including me who can at least force their teeth out like a vampyre. It hurts but it's possible if you take the time to build up your muscles and train them. So I huess this is my point. The human mind and body can indeed do ultimately in-human things. And that it may also produce an amount of energy that so many as of late think weres need to be able to "make the change". Just my ramblings. Feel free to pick them appart if you like.

[Worst fear]

Some people think of werewolves as vicious abominations. They think that we kill out of no reason.. some times werewolves do . but mostly out of threat, or hatred.. lol :D

[MorganaFang]

Just my ramblings. Feel free to pick them appart if you like.

www.livejournal.com (http://www.livejournal.com)

My eyes feel assaulted, but I have to say nothing of what you have yammered on does not really relate to the existence of werewolves. What I tried to read was just spouting off of special traits you may possess and why we should believe you as a reliable source. (My jesus comment was sarcasm.)

I've read Medical journals since I was 2, (okay at 2 I was looking at pictures but still everyone must believe me because I say so!) that does not make me capable of performing surgery.

About gland in werewolf... The whole thing about werewolves not having the energy is getting down to the cellular level. No cells (known) have the ability to mutate so fast and in such mass in a body that it two would be able to switch back and forth from physical forms. It's not as easy as the shifting of bones. I can dislocate some of my joints too, but that is the typical tendency of most joints. That is mechanics.

As for hearing, a lot of people are surprisingly capable of picking up low frequencies. I've seen video of babies who's faces have contorted when a dog whistle is blown, possibly showing they're can hear the sound.

Humans doing inhuman things is common and can be scientifically explained. Which I guess makes them not so inhuman. Teeth do move constantly in your mouth, that's why people with perfectly straight teeth for most of their life develop crooked ones later. Strength can be gained by different body types and adrenalin rushes.

[Goth Girl]

But then what about those people who heal alot faster than others? Their cells must be rapidly regenerating and stuff like that. Right?

[MorganaFang]

But then what about those people who heal alot faster than others? Their cells must be rapidly regenerating and stuff like that. Right?

Eh that isn't exactly that much, because of course no one can heal from a stab wound in less than a day. And it is just a portion of your body not the whole thing.

Even fast healers would not heal so quickly it they were really badly torn up.

[White Phoenix]

Some people think of werewolves as vicious abominations. They think that we kill out of no reason.. some times werewolves do . but mostly out of threat, or hatred.. lol :D

Werewolves are an abomination and an affront to nature and God and must be cleansed.

[DarkWolf]

Werewolves are an abomination and an affront to nature and God and must be cleansed.
Ugh. I think stupid people like you are the ones who need to be cleansed.

Why is it so much to ask for people to use some logic before posting?

[thenewbishop]

Werewolves are an abomination and an affront to nature and God and must be cleansed.

Interesting. That was white phoenix's first post

What are the odds of that?

[White Phoenix]

Ugh. I think stupid people like you are the ones who need to be cleansed.

Why is it so much to ask for people to use some logic before posting?

You and I are very similar I see. It is nice to see others that are honest enough to admit that there are those that should be cleansed. Only through death can we purify that which is tainted.

P.S. My first post had to say something; I find its best to make a splash.

[MalleusMaleficar]

And the fact that it was recorded that Jesus lived. Whether or not you beleive he's the son of God I don't care but the fact is it's proven he was alive and had indeed been executed in which way that he had. Where, or should I say were as, there are no documented records reguarding werecreatures of any kind. Energy. How do you know if you need alot of energy to shift? Maybe werewolves gain an extra organ that pumps adrenaline at a higher rate or something like that to change. Then again the brain alone can produce vast amounts of energy in some people. So maybe some would have the needed energy. I've been studying the human body since I was three and my dad had gotten me into it. Heck, on Montel the other day I saw something about a kid who was blind and around age three he taught himself to learn echo comunication. Something that scientists thought that only bats and few insectiods have only been able to fathom. But now a boy is able to click his tongue against his teeth and actually watch the sound waves bounce off of his surroundings. Heck, this kid can skateboard and even PLAY VIDEO games better than anyone I know and his eyes are made of plastic. I have taught myself to rely on sound in an almost similar manor. I can tell you when a phone will ring up to ten seconds before it happens cuz I can hear the electricity running through the wires outside my house. Taking that hearing test at school I'd always raise my arm before the sound came cuz I could hear the little buzz just as she barely touched the button. And in nearly complete darkness I see in wire frame. A gift I've had since five. I taught myself for years on some of the things I can do but at least I know I can do them. Which is why I know stuff like the kid who can see sound is possible and shifter may too. Heck, even I can shift in ways. Nearly every major bone in my body can easily dis-locate. And just as easily pop back into place. I've been teaching myself that since I was almost ten. Now I really don't care if you beleive me, cuz hey, you can come on over if you want. I know West and Morgy and Sai live around here somewhere. But if you look for cases like this you'll find that the human brain, even the human body, is far more than capable of preforming non-human actions and feats. A woman who can lift a Ford F-250 off of her dying husband or even a woman who lifts a friggin bus off of her child. A guy so magnetic he can cling to your refridgerator. Hell, I know plenty of people including me who can at least force their teeth out like a vampyre. It hurts but it's possible if you take the time to build up your muscles and train them. So I huess this is my point. The human mind and body can indeed do ultimately in-human things. And that it may also produce an amount of energy that so many as of late think weres need to be able to "make the change". Just my ramblings. Feel free to pick them appart if you like.



The first thing i would like to saw is what is this documentation of jesus? i mean the only thing i have heard to have "him" in it is the bible. and it is hard to trust something that may have been written years after jesus died. It is also hard to believe something that has a lot of strange contridictions in it. Sorry if my spelling is bad i am not good at it. But since this isn't a post on religion i will not elaborate further. Yes it is true that the human body can do some incredible things. just the other day i saw a video of a woman surving a point blank gunshot to the head. She was conscience for a long while afterwards. But the problem doesn't come from the energy needed to change into a werecreature no that is not the point needed to be made but where does the extra mass come from? not just that but the pain associated with a change would be so enormous would a person be able to take it? Think about it most of the bone structure would have to be changed so that would indicate breaking and some sort of healing. This would cause most if not all humans to fall to a point of shock. This would be almost an equivalent of breaking most of the bones in one's body. Not to mention how one's snout will get longer and where that stuff will come from. ok i am done for now.

[RedTalon]

Where, or should I say were as, there are no documented records reguarding werecreatures of any kind.

There are as valid records of were-creatures existing as there are of Jesus existing. See for yourself! People were executed for being werewolves, because that is what they were believed to be in those times. This does not prove that weres have existed, however. It just shows that in those times, people searched for explanations from folklore.

And sure, I very much believe that a man named Jesus could have lived at some point, but do I belive him to be a "true son of God"? No.. I don't believe in God, but I do believe in the fact that people can easily come up with stories and legends and begin believing in them. How else would we have religions? *smirk*

Heck, even I can shift in ways. Nearly every major bone in my body can easily dis-locate.

This isn't called shifting, it's called dislocating bones.

Hell, I know plenty of people including me who can at least force their teeth out like a vampyre. It hurts but it's possible if you take the time to build up your muscles and train them.

Do you have ANY idea how your teeth are located in your mouth? They are not attached to muscles.

[Goth Girl]

That what the hell is that thing that flexes in my mouth? Not trying to be rude just to let you know. I really want to find out. Oh, and for the weres, I ment a record of the shifting and all. Not inocent people being slaughtered.

[RedTalon]

That what the hell is that thing that flexes in my mouth?

That's your tongue and it's not attached to your teeth. :D

Oh, and for the weres, I ment a record of the shifting and all. Not in