Jewish/Catholic

[UNODRAGONE]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070810/ap_on_re_eu/kaddish_for_a_cardin al

[Aeolus]

It's amazing that the death of someone who strived to create peace between two opposing beliefs was remembered with such words as 'It is important to emphazise that it is impossible to be both Jewish and Catholic. That is what this could suggest to some people.' Almost like there is still a bit of enmity between the two groups in the matter.

[UNODRAGONE]

It's amazing that the death of someone who strived to create peace between two opposing beliefs was remembered with such words as 'It is important to emphazise that it is impossible to be both Jewish and Catholic. That is what this could suggest to some people.' Almost like there is still a bit of enmity between the two groups in the matter.

Thats what pissed me off about this article! Why can't someone be of two religions or combine different aspects of some religions and make their own beliefs! It's their choice especially when you think about it, each religion is different in it's own right but there are so many similarities.

[Aeolus]

Thats what pissed me off about this article! Why can't someone be of two religions or combine different aspects of some religions and make their won beliefs! It's their choice especially when you think about it, each religion is different in it's own right but there are so many similarities.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, Judaism and Catholicism do have some major doctrinal differences, and a were at odds with eachother for some time. We can't expect them to even be totally peaceful with eachother yet. I just thought that, given the recent death of Cardinal Lustiger, they might be able to put differences aside for his sake momentarily.

[dracosn]

I am not opposed to any religion in particular but differences in religions between people seem to usually result in some sort of violence all in the name of the god(s) of that religion.
I believe that if someone wants to practice more than 1 religion than let them as long as they don’t interfere with any one else having that same right. Religion should not be an excuse to violence it should be the reason that we all have in common and celebrate.

[Vendetta]

Thats what pissed me off about this article! Why can't someone be of two religions or combine different aspects of some religions and make their own beliefs!
They can, but then they can't call themselves Jewish or Catholic.

This is, I think, the biggest failing of organization religions.

[UNODRAGONE]

They can, but then they can't call themselves Jewish or Catholic.

This is, I think, the biggest failing of organization religions.


I agree it is a huge failing of organizations but it makes me think at the same time if they can't call themselves Jewish or Catholic, then what?

[Aeolus]

It's not really a failing Ven, it's just a fact. You can be either undecided or one or the other, but usually you can't be democrat or republican, for example.

When you are a part of a religion, that is where you put your beliefs, and naturally, it's going to be tough to have two very different views of spirituallity simultaneously. Think of it as more of a physical inconstancy rather than a decision made impossible by the choice of the institution.

[Vendetta]

It's not really a failing Ven, it's just a fact. You can be either undecided or one or the other, but usually you can't be democrat or republican, for example.
Uhh you could be an Independant; voting on what you believe/support regardless of Democratic/Republican party affiliation.

When you are a part of a religion, that is where you put your beliefs, and naturally, it's going to be tough to have two very different views of spirituallity simultaneously. Think of it as more of a physical inconstancy rather than a decision made impossible by the choice of the institution.
Why do someone's ideas of spirituality have be two polar opposites? This is exactly how sects and branch religions get founded.

The problem is that organized religions think everyone in their "church" should subscribe to the EXACT same ideology. I think we can accept that no two people are exactly alike, so why do we assume they will have the same beliefs? No, organized religions treat people en masse rather than as individuals. The only one's I've seen that are fairly accepting of nonconformity are Unitarians and to a certain degree Swedenborgians.

[Aeolus]

Uhh you could be an Independant; voting on what you believe/support regardless of Democratic/Republican party affiliation.

But you can't really be both a democrat and a republican, now, can you?


Why do someone's ideas of spirituality have be two polar opposites? This is exactly how sects and branch religions get founded.

Why can't they be polar opposites? I don't really understand what you are complaining about. They don't have to have the same ideas to get along, I will agree with you on that, but Judaism and Catholicism just aren't the same thing. They shouldn't have to agree on one set of teachings for everyone, if that is what you are trying to get at.

The problem is that organized religions think everyone in their "church" should subscribe to the EXACT same ideology.

Uh, coming from someone who participates in one, some churches have that attitude, but certainly not all others follow suit. Also, I don't think that it is any better in any other organized area of society where there will be differences in opinion, as far as everyone being forced to take a side goes.

I think we can accept that no two people are exactly alike, so why do we assume they will have the same beliefs? No, organized religions treat people en masse rather than as individuals. The only one's I've seen that are fairly accepting of nonconformity are Unitarians and to a certain degree Swedenborgians.

Well, in their defence, many people who go to a particular church may have a generally similar view on spiritual ideas all around, and I don't understand what is wrong with that. If one belief deviates from another, that's all right ins't it? Who says they HAVE to agree on everything? Again, maybe I'm not understanding what you are trying to get across.

All that disappoints me is that the two belief systems couldn't commemorate the Cardinal without bringing old issues to the surface for the duration of even so much as a week. Other than that, I think it is stupid to expect the two groups of people to come to terms all of a sudden.

The Jewish and the Catholics both preach what they have to say as if it is correct, and their is nothing wrong with that. It simply leads to a perdicament where they cannot easilly negotiate the two differences of opinion. This is going to take an understandably long time, and as I have said before, there are other areas of society besides just religion where two or more doctrines/fundamentals find themselves at odds, and are unable to come together in peace.