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Dogman
09-26-2007, 02:00 PM
So Northern Michigan the place of my Birth has a Legend. The Dogman. there are always reports of sightings and encounters. they say every seventh year of the current decade i.e. 97,07,17. on he apears and is seen roamin the northern woods. accounts from all over the reagon not just state tell of this "animal"....

"The creature was not a wild dog, nor a wolf or coyote, and truly not a werewolf, at least not in terms that Hollywood always set on such creatures of myth. Its emergence had nothing to do with the full moon. Like any other nocturnal predator, it hid during the day and was active at night. It did not fear crucifixes, garlic, wolfs bane, or any other of the infamous remedies made famous in the movies. It could not be killed by silver bullets, or regular bullets for that matter. It was a supernatural combination of an otherworldly specter and a wild, ravenous creature. Though it had the appearance of a gigantic, wild canine, it had many human-like characteristics too. Its paws were more like hands, and it could stand up on its hind legs. And probably the worst of all, its muzzle had the unnatural ability to make many of the same facial expressions as humans could make."

Tempest
09-26-2007, 02:38 PM
There was a video posted about this Dogman here (http://werewolf.com/vb/showthread.php?t=165 04&page=4#34), unfortunately whoever posted it on youtube has taken it down. We did discuss it a bit and it's pretty fake. If you go to the sightings website (http://www.michigan-dogman.com/sightings-antrim.html) you can see that the pictures are fake. Legends like these are usually hoaxes.

Dogman
09-26-2007, 02:58 PM
There was a video posted about this Dogman here (http://werewolf.com/vb/showthread.php?t=165 04&page=4#34), unfortunately whoever posted it on youtube has taken it down. We did discuss it a bit and it's pretty fake. If you go to the sightings website (http://www.michigan-dogman.com/sightings-antrim.html) you can see that the pictures are fake. Legends like these are usually hoaxes.

its been around for a long ass time though so only time will tell. i myself beleive in some sort of animal of this nature out in the wild. and ive seen some freaky shit

Tempest
09-26-2007, 03:01 PM
its been around for a long ass time though so only time will tell. i myself beleive in some sort of animal of this nature out in the wild. and ive seen some freaky shit

Maybe there is, however from what little evidence I've seen I'd have to say that the majority of these "sightings" are fake. I wouldn't say it's impossible to have an undiscovered species running around in Michigan...there are a lot of things we humans have yet to discover.

This halloween I might be staying overnight in a haunted house, maybe that will change my opinion on things like this :p

Edit - Found the video if you are interested in watching it: http://youtube.com/watch?v=txXmH5c8_f8

Dogman
09-27-2007, 11:54 AM
Maybe there is, however from what little evidence I've seen I'd have to say that the majority of these "sightings" are fake. I wouldn't say it's impossible to have an undiscovered species running around in Michigan...there are a lot of things we humans have yet to discover.

This halloween I might be staying overnight in a haunted house, maybe that will change my opinion on things like this :p

Edit - Found the video if you are interested in watching it: http://youtube.com/watch?v=txXmH5c8_f8

Back in the 1860s, there was a warrior group of Cheyenne called the Dog Soldiers or Dog Men. For many poor US Army troopers, they were the ³Special Forces² of their times. Like wolves or wild dogs, they were tenacious in their pursuit of their prey and would come back againŠ and againŠ and again until they won victory. Similar warrior societies using the dog or wolf can be found in almost every American Indian nation. The process for a warrior in this society is in learning how to become just as your totem, or symbol. And that lends its way into Indian shape shifting. Now Iım speaking figuratively * not literally, eh.

But depending on your point of view, shape shifting canŠ ³change². For Indians, shape shifting is applied in hunting, song and dance, healing and warfare. A brave will study his spirit animal for many years to learn all of its uniqueness and mannerisms, trying to become one with it or * just like it. Ordinarily, Indian shape shifting couldnıt be more different than the modern horror crud. But there can be exceptions where this homily plays out close to modern day Dracs, and Frankysteins, eh. And maybe, the Northern Michigan ³Legend of the Dogmen² is one such instance, hmm?

The Cheyenne Dog Men supposedly were wiped out by the US Army. But there are stories, carried over from the elders, that tell of some of the Dog Men actually shape shifting into the 'real dogs' that they mimicked in battle. Thus, these few escaped the US Armyıs planned killing of them all back in the ³Battle of Summit Springs² in Colorado. Now, be you a believer of this or not, itıs worthwhile to note that unlike the horror junk you see in movies and on TV, the Dog Men are not going to rip you apart and devour you, eh. They couldnıt even if they wanted to. Thatıs because even if they were bad spirits, most Indians know that you cannot be harmed by evilŠ of any kind unlessŠ you invite it into yourself. Christianity and every other religion on the Earth Mother teach the same thing, eh.

Equally though, the Good Book and all of those other beliefs also speak of spirits that have manifestations here among us two-leggeds, too. Angels are one such example of good spirits and demons are the opposite in that theyıre evil. Well, Shapshifters are usually considered as good, a tad mischievous maybe, but not evil. The same canıt be said for their opposite * skinwalkers, eh. If the Michigan Dog Men are shapeshifters, then theyıd be spooky, alright, as theyıre other-worldly. But not evil, though. So it could be that the ³Dog Men of Michigan² are just old Michigan Indian warriors, going through their seven-year routine of shape shifting. Who can say? But speaking of routineŠ I do personally fret a bit when Iım driving deep in the dark woods, on a full-mooned night and thingsŠ changeŠ know what I mean? - David Walks as Bear

i belive there is more truth is David Walks as Bear's theory

Canis Lupus
10-11-2007, 01:36 PM
Maybe there is, however from what little evidence I've seen I'd have to say that the majority of these "sightings" are fake. I wouldn't say it's impossible to have an undiscovered species running around in Michigan...there are a lot of things we humans have yet to discover.

This halloween I might be staying overnight in a haunted house, maybe that will change my opinion on things like this :p

Edit - Found the video if you are interested in watching it: http://youtube.com/watch?v=txXmH5c8_f8

It's been removed due to a copyright claim. Proof that it's fake. :D

ThrasherCub
10-11-2007, 02:33 PM
It's been removed due to a copyright claim. Proof that it's fake. :D

Win.

Back in the 1860s, there was a warrior group of Cheyenne called the Dog Soldiers or Dog Men. For many poor US Army troopers, they were the ³Special Forces² of their times. Like wolves or wild dogs, they were tenacious in their pursuit of their prey and would come back againŠ and againŠ and again until they won victory. Similar warrior societies using the dog or wolf can be found in almost every American Indian nation. The process for a warrior in this society is in learning how to become just as your totem, or symbol. And that lends its way into Indian shape shifting. Now Iım speaking figuratively * not literally, eh.

But depending on your point of view, shape shifting canŠ ³change². For Indians, shape shifting is applied in hunting, song and dance, healing and warfare. A brave will study his spirit animal for many years to learn all of its uniqueness and mannerisms, trying to become one with it or * just like it. Ordinarily, Indian shape shifting couldnıt be more different than the modern horror crud. But there can be exceptions where this homily plays out close to modern day Dracs, and Frankysteins, eh. And maybe, the Northern Michigan ³Legend of the Dogmen² is one such instance, hmm?

You just called the Dogmen, the werewolf-esque creatures you've been trying to assert may exist, plain old non-amazing native americans.

Fail.

UNODRAGONE
10-12-2007, 11:19 AM
It might have started out from some sort of wild dog that couldn't be caught and at night things always look crazier but based on what I have found, it's just been something blown up to be more then what it is, probably for tourism :shrug:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/viewarticle.php?id=9 9

http://www.weirdmichigan.co m/monsters.html