Conspiracy Theories

[UNODRAGONE]

Ok guys I have a friend of mine that should have played Mel Gibson in Conspiracy Theory lol he is always on my ass cause I was in the Army, that I was the governments puppet and he talks about all the conspiracies the government has so I was wondering what you guys have heard/think about it all. I found an interesting site that gave the ten wackiest Conspiracy theories that I have posted below, I would love to hear anyone's you have heard or believe in and why.


http://www.2spare.com/item_43133.aspx

[Sazabi]

Dinosauroid-like Alien Reptiles are dominating the World


Wow, I didn't even need to start reading the article!

http://www.coasttocoastam.c om/

^my contribution. at least once a week you're guaranteed a nutjob ranting about something or the other. Fun if you work night shift.

[Fenrir]

I actually believe the one about the moon landing (Not the Nazi one), the rest though are just ridiculous.

[UNODRAGONE]

I actually believe the one about the moon landing (Not the Nazi one), the rest though are just ridiculous.


This one?

Apollo 11 Moon Landings were faked by NASA

Proponents of the Apollo moon landing hoax accusations allege that the Apollo Moon Landings never took place, and were faked by NASA with possible CIA support. Enthusiasts of this theory claim that:



The astronauts could not have survived the trip because of exposure to radiation
The photos were altered: the Crosshairs on some photos appear to be behind objects, rather than in front of them where they should be
The quality of the photographs is implausibly high.
There are no stars in any of the photos, and astronauts never report seeing any stars from the capsule windows.
Identical backgrounds in photos that are listed as taken miles apart.
The moon's surface during the daytime is so hot that camera film would have melted.
No blast crater appeared from the landing
The launch rocket produced no visible flame.
The flag placed on the surface by the astronauts flapped despite there being no wind on the Moon.

what makes you believe in it? Out of pure curiosity

[Fenrir]

Yeah that one.

I just think that the arguement is believeable. The flag should no be waving, and I have yet to see anybody come up with a reason why It should. And I've seen the footage of the buggy beinh driven around sped up and it looks exactly like it should when driven on earth. Its possible this footage was shot on earth then slowed down to fake the effects of lower gravity.

Really I think the only way to prove definitively that this actually happened would be to look at the moon through a telescope and see the lander still there.

[UNODRAGONE]

Yeah that one.

I just think that the arguement is believeable. The flag should no be waving, and I have yet to see anybody come up with a reason why It should. And I've seen the footage of the buggy beinh driven around sped up and it looks exactly like it should when driven on earth. Its possible this footage was shot on earth then slowed down to fake the effects of lower gravity.

Really I think the only way to prove definitively that this actually happened would be to look at the moon through a telescope and see the lander still there.


Never thought about that but your right, there isn't any wind in space for it to be blowing good point :)

[LV426]

I am going to address some issues about the proposed fake moon landing.

The shadows.

People claim that the only way that certain shadows could have occurred on the moon was in there was multiple lighting sources. However had there been multiple lighting sources the astronauts would have cast mulitple shadows.

Absolute darkness.
The foreground of many images of the astronauts on the Moon are filled in with light, while the shadows remain absolutely black, again proving that there are multiple light sources.

Again this is false. The moon's surface is highly reflective with lots of glass like beads with reflective and refractive material mixed into it. Hence the reason why the foreground images were lit up. The fact that the shadow is so dark on the ground in front of the astronauts is proof that there was no other lighting involved.

No stars in the sky....


http://www.lunaranomalies.c om/images/fake4.jpg

This image is used extensively to try and prove that the lunar landing was faked. Why? Because there are no stars in the sky. The fact of the matter is that in order to get background pinpoint light sources a photographer would have to use a very long exposure time. This would cause images in the foreground to be washed out with a giant blob of over-exposed light. Anyone who has tried to take pictures of the night sky knows this.

The Earth is not seen from the moon...

http://www.lunaranomalies.c om/images/fake-boulder_small.jpg

Hmm so I guess the above picture is fake?
This an Apollo 17 picture of a large boulder, with the Earth in the background, taken by an astronaut with a hand held Hassleblad 70mm camera (the same camera which took the photograph of Gene Cernan, with the flag and Earth, above). You see those conspiracy theorists tend to only look at some of the pics from that trip.


How could NASA take TV images of the LM ascending on Apollo 15, 16, and 17 if there was no one on the Lunar surface to man the camera?

The camera was remote controlled from Earth. Gee that was easy.


There can't be any pictures taken on the Moon because the film would melt in the 250° temperatures.

Any normal film exposed to 250° would indeed melt at that temperature. There are only two problems with this Moon Hoax claim:

1.This was no ordinary "Ektachrome" film.
2.It was never exposed to those kind of temperatures in the cameras.

The 70mm film used in the Hasselblad cameras the astronauts carried was a very special transparency film designed specifically under a NASA contract for hostile environments like the Moon. According to Peter Vimislik at Kodak, the film would at worst begin to soften at 200° F, and would not melt until it reached at least 500° F. So, a worst case scenario of 250-280° F for a totally uninsulated, non-reflective camera would still be well within the film's operational parameters. The film itself, in terms of its light-gathering abilities was a special "extended range color slide film" called "XRC," that allowed the astronauts to take perfect "National Geographic" quality pictures on the lunar surface.

Now some say this film doesn't exist but, Enterprise Principal investigator Richard C. Hoagland actually used many rolls of this "super lunar film," back when he was advising Walter Cronkite at CBS.
http://www.lunaranomalies.c om/images/Fake-camera.jpg
The cameras were also protected inside a special case designed to keep them cool. Although it is true that in the direct, airless sunlight the temperature can reach upwards of 250° - 280° Fahrenheit, precisely because there is no air, it's fairly easy to keep cool. The best way to reflect radiative heat is to wrap the object (like a camera or person) in layers designed to reflect as much heat as possible, usually by simply being white. As you can see from the images above, most all of the astronaut's clothing and the camera casing were indeed white, which very efficiently directed heat away from the both the astronauts and camera film.

The Lunar Module engine was very powerful. How come it did not leave a crater below the spacecraft? Why didn't it kick up any dust when it landed?

There is no crater because there was solid rock where it landed. There is in fact a mark on the surface of moon left behind by the lunar module.
http://www.lunaranomalies.c om/images/fake14.jpg

As for dust, well if you look at the original tapes they actually do have dust flying and swirling about.


The astronauts could not have survived the trip because of exposure to radiation.

The main concern about radiation to scientists at that time were the Van Allen Belts. Now I'm sure some of you are curious about what exactly are the Van Allen Belts.

The Van Allen radiation belts are a pair of toroidal-shaped belts of high-energy electrons and ions trapped in the Earth's magnetic field. The inner region is centered at about 3000 km above Earth and has a thickness of about 5000 km. The outer region is centered at about 15,000 -- 20,000 km above the surface of the Earth and has a thickness of 6,000 -- 10,000 km.

Yeah I know you just zoned out. Anyway the way they got around this was by using velocity. Basically, while there was some shielding from the equipment, the best way was to speed through the belts at some 25,000 mph. That got them through the belts in about an hour. This lowered the exposure so their radiation dose was below 1 rad. So for the majority of the trip they were at low earth orbit altitudes until they had to cross.

Actually the scientists were more concerned about solar flares but since there wasn't much to be done about it they concentracted on the Van Allen belts.

Basically the astronauts were lucky as hell that nothing flared up and nuked them.


The flag waved in the breeze.

The flag wasn't waving in the breeze. Remember Newton's Third Law of motion, for every action there is an equal but opposite reaction. Therefore when the astronauts put up the flag the movement you see isn't the flag waving but reacting to the touch of the astronauts. It's moving because there was no gravity to still it's motion immediately.


It just takes some digging, research and some common sense to see that the moon landings weren't faked. I mean if you really want a NASA cover up why aren't you asking them about those aliens on Mars? ;)

[IIFerinusII]

Wow, I didn't even need to start reading the article!

http://www.coasttocoastam.c om/

^my contribution. at least once a week you're guaranteed a nutjob ranting about something or the other. Fun if you work night shift.

That really is a fun show to listen to when they do some of the off-the-wall things. Heard one lady talking about the reptilians about 8 years ago, saying that there was a portal behind her house where the reptilians came through from another dimension. How she knows they are coming from another dimension I do not know :D

[Fenrir]

The flag waved in the breeze.

The flag wasn't waving in the breeze. Remember Newton's Third Law of motion, for every action there is an equal but opposite reaction. Therefore when the astronauts put up the flag the movement you see isn't the flag waving but reacting to the touch of the astronauts. It's moving because there was no gravity to still it's motion immediately.


Wouldn't the law, 'an object in motion stays in motion' apply better here?

[LV426]

Wouldn't the law, 'an object in motion stays in motion' apply better here?

I'm pretty sure that all three laws could apply to this in some way shape or form but I chose the third because third time's the charm.

[UNODRAGONE]

check this one out


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080212/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_great_seal_myths

[Molokai]

Ok guys I have a friend of mine that should have played Mel Gibson in Conspiracy Theory lol he is always on my ass cause I was in the Army, that I was the governments puppet and he talks about all the conspiracies the government has so I was wondering what you guys have heard/think about it all. I found an interesting site that gave the ten wackiest Conspiracy theories that I have posted below, I would love to hear anyone's you have heard or believe in and why.


http://www.2spare.com/item_43133.aspx


Those are really wacky theories, I liked the Reptilian one (Doesn't mean that I believe any of it) but check this out...

www.reptoids.com