View Full Version : Video: The Facts About Obama's Past
IIFerinusII
06-20-2008, 02:14 PM
There is much controversy about Obama's past. This video explains much of his past, whether you like it or not. Has a lot of really good facts, points, and it uses actual things he said and what others have said. It's about 13 minutes long, but I suggest you watch it. Have an open mind ...
http://www.theurbangrind.ne t/?p=2570
I do realize, at times it is much, but most of it is facts and the speeches are in context when he is giving the facts.
Please, this is the person that is supposed to be running our country, and you can not take his word as the truth. He said his grandma was racist and then he lied to your faces and said that she was "like every other white person". You can only look at a person's past to figure out what they are like, because everyone lies. A bit of it is a bit much, but much of it is completely legit and true.
Please watch it and comment, don't just brush it aside.
Vendetta
06-20-2008, 03:30 PM
You know, even McCain has repudiated that bullshit tactic of repeating the guy's middle name, like his NAME has anything to do with the person he is.
I love the line in there (1:55): "Without researching, very little is known about Obama's background."
Uhhh DURRRR.
"FACT: His father is a Muslim from Kenya"
FALSE, his father was born a Muslim, but was an atheist in his adult life.
"FACT: Obama attended a Muslim school for 2 years in Jakarta, Indonesia"
Yes, because Muslim schools are inherently EVIL! And just two years? He probably didn't even get to Pipe-bomb Making 101, which is mandatory in all Muslim schools.
"FACT: Obama won't wear an American flag pin on his chest"
Oh noes! Obama isn't a bandwagoning whore like Hillary?! What the fuck does an American flag pin have to do with a candidate's qualifications?
"FACT: Obama refused to put his hand over his heart during the national anthem"
Lots of people do this, because of the insertion of God into the pledge, which many feel doesn't belong there. Also, did you hear the person singing the anthem? Maybe he just wanted his hands free so he could plug his ears.
Also, I don't like or agree with Reverend Wright, but he IS right when he says the country is controlled by rich white people. Except maybe Condy, and I'd question what she actually controls.
And then we get a bunch of stuff on Wright, which has nothing to do with Obama, at all.
So yeah, overall this video is trash. And in fact there are even some Republicans (http://www.outsidethebeltwa y.com/index.php?author=1/) who agree that focusing on these inconsequential minutiae weakens their cause.
IIFerinusII
06-20-2008, 04:15 PM
You know, even McCain has repudiated that bullshit tactic of repeating the guy's middle name, like his NAME has anything to do with the person he is.
I love the line in there (1:55): "Without researching, very little is known about Obama's background."
Uhhh DURRRR.
"FACT: His father is a Muslim from Kenya"
FALSE, his father was born a Muslim, but was an atheist in his adult life.
"FACT: Obama attended a Muslim school for 2 years in Jakarta, Indonesia"
Yes, because Muslim schools are inherently EVIL! And just two years? He probably didn't even get to Pipe-bomb Making 101, which is mandatory in all Muslim schools.
"FACT: Obama won't wear an American flag pin on his chest"
Oh noes! Obama isn't a bandwagoning whore like Hillary?! What the fuck does an American flag pin have to do with a candidate's qualifications?
"FACT: Obama refused to put his hand over his heart during the national anthem"
Lots of people do this, because of the insertion of God into the pledge, which many feel doesn't belong there. Also, did you hear the person singing the anthem? Maybe he just wanted his hands free so he could plug his ears.
Also, I don't like or agree with Reverend Wright, but he IS right when he says the country is controlled by rich white people. Except maybe Condy, and I'd question what she actually controls.
And then we get a bunch of stuff on Wright, which has nothing to do with Obama, at all.
So yeah, overall this video is trash. And in fact there are even some Republicans (http://www.outsidethebeltwa y.com/index.php?author=1/) who agree that focusing on these inconsequential minutiae weakens their cause.
All the facts it gave were true (except it left out about his father becoming an atheist).
Sorry, but because all of the facts are true, I don't think you can call it trash.
You just took the facts and put your own logic to them. "Oh, he doesn't pledge to the flag, he must not do it because it says "God"."
"He doesn't wear the American flag pin, it must be because he doesn't like to hop on the bandwagon like Hillary!"
Stop making excuses for his actions. Seriously, you don't know what he is thinking. The video just presented the fact that he doesn't do either.
Reverend Wright is his "mentor" even he has said it, so how does that have nothing to do with Obama when he has been part of that church for over 20 years?
Like I said, some of it is a bit much. I don't care much about his name or him being muslim, that doesn't have much significance. What does have significance, is the background values that he comes from.
How do you know his motives for not wearing the American flag or pledging to it? The question is...do you want someone who does that without knowing his true motive?
Main points to take from the video:
He lies to your face... (in video context he says his grandma is racist and then when asked to comment on it, he says she isn't, but she is "like all other white people. Out of video context, he has said he has not taken money from lobbyist, when in fact, he has.)
It appears he thinks all white people are racist and are trying to put the black man down.
He belongs to a church for 20 years that is based on Black Liberation, which the video does give facts on.
Vote how you want, but do you really want to risk our country in the hands of a man who has hardly had any political experience and with a background that deals with meeting with terrorists and belonging to a church that has Black Liberation ideals?
Vendetta
06-20-2008, 04:51 PM
You are retarded, and I refuse to get involved in a half-assed debate with you about things that you apparently know nothing about. All of these "facts" are distortions, and if you gave as much time as it took to watch that godawful video, you'd find that those things are in fact NOT true, and have nothing to do with his qualifications as President.
And hey, with all this apparently evil bullshit in his past, how on earth was he elected to the US Senate, genius?
IIFerinusII
06-20-2008, 05:14 PM
You are retarded, and I refuse to get involved in a half-assed debate with you about things that you apparently know nothing about. All of these "facts" are distortions, and if you gave as much time as it took to watch that godawful video, you'd find that those things are in fact NOT true, and have nothing to do with his qualifications as President.
VmlXAnd hey, with all this apparently evil bullshit in his past, how on earth was he elected to the US Senate, genius?
Like I said, the fact about him being a Muslim and his name and all of that has nothing to do with it. I realize that the video has an agenda, but it still has points. You think I looked at this video and know nothing about Obama? You are arrogant.
I don't see why you are blind to the fact that people are shaped by their environment and who they associate with. He associated with Rev. Wright who was yelling at Hannity about how their church is based on Cone. Obama associated with terrorists, in which one of the people on his campaign said he was friendly with one of them.
How is this retarded? The fact that you apparently won't look at his background find out what kind of person he is, makes you retarded.
20 years he goes to the same church, then we find out that the church talks about government conspiracy and "GOD DAMN AMERICA". Obama comes and says that he did not know his pastor felt this way. Bullshit! If you believe that you are an idiot.
Go ahead, refute what is not true about who he associates with and his background. The church he belongs to...is true. The facts about the american flag...are true (Yes, it could be as innocent as he doesn't want to do it because it says "God", but then again, it could be some other reason). Breaking law and meeting with terrorists and even going as far as being friendly with one...true.
How did he get elected if he is bad? HAHAHAHA! How many people have been elected that we ended up hating? Our president now, is hated and called a horrible president. Lots of countries have elected tyrants because of broken promises and lies. Politicians will say what you want to hear, and Obama is a very good speaker and spreads inspiration, but he still has no strategy that we know of for doing things. Take the blindfold off of your eyes.
Yeah, and as for my half assed argument and not knowing what I'm talking about...here is my evidence.
Oh, examples of him lying:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY5CQnOn75c&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK1m8cpz3v8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BnLozS-TnM&feature=related -haha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-q9w_H2ACA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPkZm3aikDA&feature=related
WTF? This is how down to earth he is...hehe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pO1dIKgfPw&feature=related
So, who's up for disarming America? Get rid of nukes throughout the world...we can't even get North Korea to stop right now. Obama talks it up, but he can't do anything, other than disarm America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs&feature=related
HAHAHAHA! These are the people voting for him!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzFOOcEQtP0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgXPVmlXKQI&feature=related
Montage of Rev. Wright, Obama's pastor, friend, and mentor. 20 Years...20 years and Obama said...then unsaid...that he had ever heard anything controversial while at the church or from someone else.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgbE23e-zkM&feature=related
There's a lot more out there, but I'm not going to link them.
Now that that has all been said. If he does win, I will support him as our president, keep my mouth closed, and hope that he is able to separate church and state. I would also hope that finds a way to implement his plans, or rather realize that some of his plans will not work. I will hope for the best and hope that he is able to get a lot of experience quickly.
MorganaFang
06-20-2008, 09:24 PM
LOL youtube as a valid source of information. Ohohoho That is funny. Believing everything internet says with half truths, even funnier.
Hey there is a video out there Hitler once made stating that Jews were the reason WWI severely hurt Germany too. Bet you could find it on youtube would you believe that as the whole truth?
Pickle Tickler
06-20-2008, 10:51 PM
Youtube is a video version of Wikipedia, IMO. It's useful for useless information, but unreliable and opinionated.
IIFerinusII
06-20-2008, 11:29 PM
Youtube is a video version of Wikipedia, IMO. It's useful for useless information, but unreliable and opinionated.
The videos are from news broadcasts and speeches that Obama made.
Sazabi
06-20-2008, 11:31 PM
Know who else had HUSSEIN in his name? Thats right. Hitler.
Pickle Tickler
06-20-2008, 11:31 PM
The videos are from news broadcasts and speeches that Obama made.
Like I said, opinionated. You weren't showing videos of the times Obama did any good, now were you? Picking and choosing the right moments can make anyone look bad.
Vendetta
06-20-2008, 11:58 PM
FACT: Based on internet evidence, in his words, George W. Bush is a moron (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1387177/gorge_bush_saying_st upid_stuff/).
Also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjmLE7paJU8
Also, apparently he is a lush...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrEdjaJt9iY
LV426
06-21-2008, 02:13 PM
FACT: Based on internet evidence, in his words, George W. Bush is a moron (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1387177/gorge_bush_saying_st upid_stuff/).
Also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjmLE7paJU8
Also, apparently he is a lush...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrEdjaJt9iY
These are so painful to watch, even more so because the man is our goddamn president!
Vendetta
06-23-2008, 10:20 AM
These are so painful to watch, even more so because the man is our goddamn president!
Well the last one was just a normal speech he gave (inasmuch as speech's can be called "normal") just slowed down. My point was that, as Genna pointed out, bullshit exists on the internet, and that IIFerinusII shouldn't believe every video he sees on the intertrons is the gospel truth.
Barlow
08-05-2008, 11:00 PM
Ok, so, here's this guy attempting to be elected President. If you listen to some of the "facts" and some of these stupid conspiracy theories, Obama is an evil Muslim terrorist who wants to be president so he can secretly allow brown people to beat up whitey.
First off, if I were an evil mastermind, I wouldn't do all of this blatantly obvious stuff that he is accused of. I would have put my hand on my heart, wore the flag pin, and used the terms "9/11." "Terrorist" and "freedom" at least four times per speech.
Oh wait, thats probably what he wants me to think, right?
Christ, I can't believe this shit.
LV426
08-10-2008, 05:31 PM
The real truth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65I0HNvTDH4&eurl
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