No one can get into heaven

[LV426]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dzzORZhnCao

[ThrasherCub]

Not only do I love that dearly, but I began coughing with delighted shock at the reading of the URL, WhyWontGodHealAmpute es.com.

LV, you are so God.

[NeonLightChild]

Remember kids, the Bible is the Word of God and must be obeyed to the letter. Everything else is open to interpretation.

/wait, what?

[Gilenea]

The answer to the conundrum is so simple, I'm surprised more people aren't aware of the simple fact that...

There is no heaven.

Gil

[WareW-Believer]

Santa isn't real?!

[ThrasherCub]

In studying magick you learn that things can be created, and already existing things can be shifted, by force of thought. In that scenario, you go to the Christian heaven by simply believing it really hard.

However, the Christian heaven isn't somewhere you'd ever want to go. You're always happy in heaven. However you're happy in this numb, lobotomized way.

Not quite the topic at hand, but this seemed like a good place to toss that out anyway!

[dwulf]

However, the Christian heaven isn't somewhere you'd ever want to go. You're always happy in heaven. However you're happy in this numb, lobotomized way.[QUOTE]


I couldn't agree more.

[RQ]

Nobody knows anything about 'Heaven.' The Christian heaven is oneness with god - nobody ever told you you'd get to listen to your favorite HIM song while lying on beds of marshmallow Peeps as you admire your 24 virgins or whatever.

To say it's 'a lobotomized kind of happy' is a silly modern interpretation popularized by other religions.

Furthermore, you cannot actualize things in the world through sheer force of will. If you could, I guarantee you fewer dead people would stay that way and there would be more paraplegics walking around.

[ThrasherCub]

To say it's 'a lobotomized kind of happy' is a silly modern interpretation popularized by other religions.
Please don't incorrectly inform me of where I get my information. :)

Furthermore, you cannot actualize things in the world through sheer force of will. If you could, I guarantee you fewer dead people would stay that way and there would be more paraplegics walking around.
Even if you don't believe in it, you might want to read up on magick before speaking on it.

1 - Amount of force matters.
2 - You need to be able to overcome the force of belief of everyone who believes contrary, which is why big-fuck deals of those natures are a bit hard to do, particularly when it's so damn hard to get over your own disbelief on the subject.

/small-magick-interjection

[RQ]

Please don't incorrectly inform me of where I get my information.
Where do you get your information?

[Vendetta]

Where do you get your information?
From Crowley, who in turn got his information from an incorporeal entity called Aiwass that "spoke" to him. :D

I'm sorry Thrasher, I like "Do what thou wilt" but some Thelemic interpretations of Liber AL vel Legis are downright silly.

[RQ]

Aiwass.

Ai.

Wass.

I was!

I was! The whole thing could just be Crowley's clever private joke about how deities and religions are a thing of the past.

I would love it so much if that were the truth

[ThrasherCub]

From Crowley, who in turn got his information from an incorporeal entity called Aiwass that "spoke" to him. :D

I'm sorry Thrasher, I like "Do what thou wilt" but some Thelemic interpretations of Liber AL vel Legis are downright silly.

As strange as we are, at least we're pro-enjoyment of life!

And I still don't think we're as silly as the cosmic Jewish zombie thing.