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Neowolf
12-30-2003, 04:04 PM
Ok for one i'm sure that everyne here knows my stand point on weres(at least those who have read my do you take it seriously thread), I have or had is more the word, a friend who is a hard core morman. The other day he came down to the libray when I was typing my thread that is mentioned above, he didn't say anything untill I was walking home.
As we were walking he startd asking me about my faith in god, I told him and he then asked my if I was sure what I told him was true, I asked him what he ment. He told me that he thinks I am a SATANIST :banghead: and that my belief in weres is an afront to god, opon telling me this he desided to go on a long ass rant about how I should repent and god almighty might save my soul. Has anyone else ever had anything likethis happen to them???
Wraywolf
12-30-2003, 04:15 PM
No, but I sincerely pity you. If your friend feels that way, fine, everyone is allowed to have there own opinion, but doom-preaching in this manner is just offensive to me.
Personally I would start wearing inverted pentagrams just to piss him off.
Neowolf
12-30-2003, 04:22 PM
No, but I sincerely pity you. If your friend feels that way, fine, everyone is allowed to have there own opinion, but doom-preaching in this manner is just offensive to me.
Personally I would start wearing inverted pentagrams just to piss him off.
Thanks for the pity. :notworthy (That statement was 99.99% sarcasm)
and as for the inverted pentigram thats is one of those make fun of the jews things that iritate me. although I to appreacate you concern(probably not the right word but oh well.)
LV426
12-30-2003, 04:25 PM
Ok for one i'm sure that everyne here knows my stand point on weres(at least those who have read my do you take it seriously thread), I have or had is more the word, a friend who is a hard core morman. The other day he came down to the libray when I was typing my thread that is mentioned above, he didn't say anything untill I was walking home.
As we were walking he startd asking me about my faith in god, I told him and he then asked my if I was sure what I told him was true, I asked him what he ment. He told me that he thinks I am a SATANIST :banghead: and that my belief in weres is an afront to god, opon telling me this he desided to go on a long ass rant about how I should repent and god almighty might save my soul. Has anyone else ever had anything likethis happen to them???
Well no that has never happened to me. I have never been verbally assaulted in a religious manner for my belief in weres. Of course I don't know that I believe in them just rather hold out for the possibility that they exist. But, there have been many times that I have been accused of being a Satanist because of my beliefs or disbeliefs. Perhaps you don't have that great of a friend because if he was a true friend he would accept that you have different beliefs. If someone gets it into their head that you are a Satanist and refuse to listen to reason then there is nothing you can do. However, ask your "friend" how he would feel if you were a buddhist, a jew, or islamic. If he would accept you for believing in one of those religions then tell him to shut his pie hole. You can also tell him to hush because he is being a hypocrite and a judge of you and doing so he violates one of his god's creed. God has told his children that he is the only one who is to cast judgement on man and no other. Judge not lest ye be judged yourself, ok true Metallica used that line but it really is true and variations of such can be found all over the Bible. (maybe he needs to read it)
You can also mention that you were born with free will and that you are capable of making the decision that you feel is right for you. You can also point out that you don't bitch and rant at him for being a stupid sheep of a christian (Sorry JLR no offense intended towards your faith but this kid sounds like a typical sheep) and demanding that everyone be like him and worship the same god and all that other bullshit that fanatical stupid christians feel the need to shove down other people's throats.
And for the icing on the cake you can always say that his actions have hurt your feelings and you are insulted and feel that he has acted in a very un-mormonish way because he has judged you, condemned you, and tried to enforce his will upon you and that if he is an example of who and what his religion is like you shall choose a more accepting and understanding religion that makes you feel good about yourself.
Oh and Neo one side note, the inverted pentagram has nothing to do with insulting jews. A Pentacle or Pentagram is a common object used by pagans of all kinds to symbolize the 4 directions of the earth and the self, as well as the elements. When inverted the symbol takes on a rather Ram's head symbolism with the point down being the nose and the two points on top symbolizing the horns. This is usually considered a symbol of Satan since the Ram's head is a Satanic tool or icon. I think most of this was born of Hollywood movies and satanist hysteria.
Neowolf
12-30-2003, 04:32 PM
Well no that has never happened to me. I have never been verbally assaulted in a religious manner for my belief in weres. Of course I don't know that I believe in them just rather hold out for the possibility that they exist. But, there have been many times that I have been accused of being a Satanist because of my beliefs or disbeliefs. Perhaps you don't have that great of a friend because if he was a true friend he would accept that you have different beliefs. If someone gets it into their head that you are a Satanist and refuse to listen to reason then there is nothing you can do. However, ask your "friend" how he would feel if you were a buddhist, a jew, or islamic. If he would accept you for believing in one of those religions then tell him to shut his pie hole. You can also tell him to hush because he is being a hypocrite and a judge of you and doing so he violates one of his god's creed. God has told his children that he is the only one who is to cast judgement on man and no other. Judge not lest ye be judged yourself, ok true Metallica used that line but it really is true and variations of such can be found all over the Bible. (maybe he needs to read it)
You can also mention that you were born with free will and that you are capable of making the decision that you feel is right for you. You can also point out that you don't bitch and rant at him for being a stupid sheep of a christian (Sorry JLR no offense intended towards your faith but this kid sounds like a typical sheep) and demanding that everyone be like him and worship the same god and all that other bullshit that fanatical stupid christians feel the need to shove down other people's throats.
And for the icing on the cake you can always say that his actions have hurt your feelings and you are insulted and feel that he has acted in a very un-mormonish way because he has judged you, condemned you, and tried to enforce his will upon you and that if he is an example of who and what his religion is like you shall choose a more accepting and understanding religion that makes you feel good about yourself.
Oh and Neo one side note, the inverted pentagram has nothing to do with insulting jews. A Pentacle or Pentagram is a common object used by pagans of all kinds to symbolize the 4 directions of the earth and the self, as well as the elements. When inverted the symbol takes on a rather Ram's head symbolism with the point down being the nose and the two points on top symbolizing the horns. This is usually considered a symbol of Satan since the Ram's head is a Satanic tool or icon. I think most of this was born of Hollywood movies and satanist hysteria.
All I can say is HOT DAMN thats well put. And thanks for the advice, the thing that gets me though is that I have known him for 2 years and he never actied like that before, another thing that gets me is that I have about 40-60 book,diarys,stories, pictures, and various things involving weres and he never said anything about that stuff before, so why does he stat ranting now, mabye its because I am moving to sweden. oh well.
LV426
12-30-2003, 04:40 PM
All I can say is HOT DAMN thats well put. And thanks for the advice, the thing that gets me though is that I have known him for 2 years and he never actied like that before, another thing that gets me is that I have about 40-60 book,diarys,stories, pictures, and various things involving weres and he never said anything about that stuff before, so why does he stat ranting now, mabye its because I am moving to sweden. oh well.
The best way to fight religion is to know the religion better than it's practitioners.
You don't have to attack full force unless you really want to. I do this about once a year with my aunt and uncle who are Southern Baptists and are convinced I am going to hell. I usually try to avoid the shouting matches and present my case calmly and rationally even when they get their panties in a wad. It infuriates them and provides some amusement.
If you want to keep this person as a friend just sit him down and talk to him but use the points I have mentioned without becoming overly hostile.
He may have never taken notice of your collection before or maybe he thought it was just a hobby. I have tons of werewolf, vampire, ghost, and other scary books and paraphenalia that no one really notices but when I start talking about it and what I believe in their little ears perk up. He also could be entering a period at his church where they introduce the brain washing techniques where god is good and all that don't believe in him must be converted or destroyed. It happens.
Neowolf
12-30-2003, 04:47 PM
The best way to fight religion is to know the religion better than it's practitioners.
You don't have to attack full force unless you really want to. I do this about once a year with my aunt and uncle who are Southern Baptists and are convinced I am going to hell. I usually try to avoid the shouting matches and present my case calmly and rationally even when they get their panties in a wad. It infuriates them and provides some amusement.
If you want to keep this person as a friend just sit him down and talk to him but use the points I have mentioned without becoming overly hostile.
He may have never taken notice of your collection before or maybe he thought it was just a hobby. I have tons of werewolf, vampire, ghost, and other scary books and paraphenalia that no one really notices but when I start talking about it and what I believe in their little ears perk up. He also could be entering a period at his church where they introduce the brain washing techniques where god is good and all that don't believe in him must be converted or destroyed. It happens.
Again thanks for the advice and I will do that. And as for my collection he has know about it since almost the first day I met him because one of his first questions was "Whats with all the werewolf stuff?" I told him it was one of my more intense intrests.
As I saud before thanks for the advice.
LycanSpectre
12-30-2003, 05:49 PM
When I am assaulted with religion, I just point (at the assaulters) and laugh. Then I tell them that I am a <insert religion that is most offesnive to target audience>.
Basically, I beleive that it doesn't matter what faith you have, just so long as you have faith. (thank you dogma). All the major religions are the same to me... They all have similar enough teachings that the messages are all close enough to be the same to me. And they all have the "Im right-Your wrong-Im holier than thou" attitude.
Dont let anyone tell you what to believe, just believe what is in your heart. Its going to be different for each and every person. :)
GhostBat
12-30-2003, 06:37 PM
The best way to fight religion is to know the religion better than it's practitioners.
That couldn't have been better said. Attending a private Christian School, and not being Christian, I've learned alot on the subject. What I thought was completely ironic was that I had the highest score in bible class than any other student, and I was the only "non-believer." What I notice many times again is the inconsistencies they preach. Whenever pointing these out, however, they merely reply "you must have faith." More to the point, what better way to argue against religion than to know it like the back of your hand?
J.L.R.
12-30-2003, 08:18 PM
You know, I am an Independent Fundamental Baptist, and I like to write about werewolves and draw them. And because of that, I've had people think that I was a Satanist. My family, despite the huge Gospel Baptist Church sign sitting in our pasture, and the small white church sitting at the back, for some time got accused of demon worship, for the mere fact that we A. Butchered our own beef, and B. had a couple of cow skulls decorating the place.
To put it simply, morons will be Mormons...er morons.
As a Christian I know, that there are a lot of "Christians" out there that act like they are here to save the world. While I believe in witnessing, I also firmly believe that I as a Christian should practice what I preach, and thus respect other people and their beliefs, no matter how bizzare they may seem.
Nobody likes for somebody to rant at them, nor scream HELL and DAMNATION into their ears. Even if I believe that it is true, I know that you are never going to gain understanding that way. You'll gain a swift kick in the grion, more or less.
As for liking werewolves. You know 90% of the bad stuff we hear about them or have read, was started by crooked men who wanted to control people, by twisting events to scare people into following them. Scare tactics none the less. So who knows, werewolves could be wonderful creatures.
I know wolves are wonderful, as well as beautiful. Too me, why would God wish to destroy an innocent animal, that He made so beautiful? No, stupid people and stupid convictions, placed on the wrong things, turned such wonderful creatures into monsters.
Oh well...
DarkHunter
12-30-2003, 09:32 PM
I personally try to first reason out the doom preachers and then intentionally piss them off.
MidnightPsi
12-30-2003, 10:21 PM
He said that because he cares about you, yeah, it was wrong to question your beliefs and down right rude, but he was acting according to his. Look at it this way; he doesn't want you to burn in hell for eternity.
Maybe when you both cool off you can explain to him better what you believe, and hopefully he will accept that this is what makes you happy.
You stole my location :cry:
Beserker Cub
12-31-2003, 05:01 AM
Beh...that is just plain stupid.
I mean....aarhh...can he call you a satan worshipper is there is no such thing as werewolfs in their belief? I'm not an aggressive person but that just makes me want to destroy something.
Sidenote: Almost all Wrays answers are highly sarcastic. That's why we all love him. 'Aight?
DarkWolf
12-31-2003, 05:04 AM
Beh...that ismjust plain stupid.
I mean...no!...aarhh.. .can hhe call you a satan worshipper is there is no such thing as werewolfs in their belief? I'm not an aggressive person but that just makes me want to destroy something.
Sidenote: Almost al lWarys answers are highly sarcastic. That's why we all love him. 'Aight?
Are you drunk?
Beserker Cub
12-31-2003, 05:06 AM
Are you drunk?
What, you don't like Wraywolf?
And very
DarkWolf
12-31-2003, 05:20 AM
And very
Enough said. :beerchug:
Wraywolf
12-31-2003, 05:08 PM
Yes, everyone loves me, but not in the way I would like.
I is so lonely. *Sniff*
Sidenote: I have a big, big penis.
GhostBat
12-31-2003, 05:18 PM
I have a big, big penis.
Tease :(
Neowolf
12-31-2003, 06:41 PM
Yes, everyone loves me, but not in the way I would like.
I is so lonely. *Sniff*
Sidenote: I have a big, big penis.
First of all I just noticed your avatar and I'm pretty sure I know were you got it, second of thanks everyone for the advice, apparantally he told his parents and now they are telling people to stay away from me :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: (I could have put 30-40 more of those if you get my point.) and it is really pissing me off, oh well mabye its a good thing that I am moving on friday to sweden.
ArcaneWolf
01-01-2004, 10:46 PM
First of all I just noticed your avatar and I'm pretty sure I know were you got it, second of thanks everyone for the advice, apparantally he told his parents and now they are telling people to stay away from me :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: (I could have put 30-40 more of those if you get my point.) and it is really pissing me off, oh well mabye its a good thing that I am moving on friday to sweden.
YOU BUM!!!!!! you are moving to like the Heaven/Valhalla of my kind! you lucky BUM! (side note since your answer will effect what I might say later: what music do you listen to?).
oh and wraywolf I too have a good idea where you got your avatar and your last one, I'll guess your a horny furry, huh? ;) oh and get a bf so you don't have to take out your pent up horniness on the forum, k?
Wraywolf
01-01-2004, 10:52 PM
Bah, relationships at the age of 15 only end in insanity. And even if I got a hunk of man for me own you all would not be spared from my hornyness.
Plus, Buster just has the cutest butt!
GhostBat
01-01-2004, 11:48 PM
Knowing where Wray got his avatar makes you both just as guilty :p
ArcaneWolf
01-02-2004, 08:15 AM
Knowing where Wray got his avatar makes you both just as guilty :p
It's hard not to know if you know anything about "furry".
LycanSpectre
01-03-2004, 12:19 AM
Maybe I should be glad I don.t....
McKitty
01-03-2004, 12:36 AM
Thanks for the pity. :notworthy (That statement was 99.99% sarcasm)
and as for the inverted pentigram thats is one of those make fun of the jews things that iritate me. although I to appreacate you concern(probably not the right word but oh well.)
No, let's not make of of the Jews because I hate being made fun of. :)
Xzengrim
01-03-2004, 02:12 AM
Bwahaha! It sucks to be everyone... except me! Or is it the other way around?
Anyway, my point is... just about any butt looks a little better with a tail on it. Is that wrong? Well screw you! Besides... Buster Wilde is as hysterical as he is adorable. I actually laughed so hard at that cartoon that I fell out of my chair! Damn wheeled office-chairs... I'm going to get one of those lifeguard tower chairs. At least if you fall out of one of those it's a clean kill.
But my other point is... if we make fun of the Jews, then we have to make fun of everyone else around here. And frankly, I see a lot of gays, furries, and future-Swedes dancing about. I'm only one German! I don't feel like working that hard; and especially not on the weekend. Maybe all you guys could walk into a bar, and I could get you all at once.
Okay, I was joking. At least, I hope I was. But my point is... my wang is much bigger than Wray's! In fact, it's typing this message right now!
GhostBat
01-03-2004, 01:30 PM
Wang? Are you Chinese? Oh, wait. Missed the part where you said you were German. I'm German too, woohoo.
Neowolf
01-03-2004, 05:30 PM
Knowing where Wray got his avatar makes you both just as guilty :p
I was just looking for some good were art, and well I geuss I could say I found it, Oh and please don't make fun of jews that is way off the origonal topic.
McKitty
01-03-2004, 06:08 PM
I was teasing. Anyone ever hear how to fit six Germans and Four Jews into a car? ...Never mind, it's a really bad joke. (And Neowolf, I'm Jewish so I'm simply poking fun at myself ;))
Wraywolf
01-03-2004, 07:59 PM
my wang is much bigger than Wray's!
How can you possably know? Unless...
*takes camera out of boxers*
Sick dude!
ArcaneWolf
01-04-2004, 07:45 PM
Xzengrim... you said your german, but do you live in germany?
Xzengrim
01-05-2004, 10:23 AM
Nah. Grim's family is German, but Grim was born in NC, USA. Although he's lived all over the country by now.
That, and my Wray-Cam is in his shower, not in his boxers. I don't know WHO that one was.
Aquilan
02-29-2004, 08:26 PM
Ok for one i'm sure that everyne here knows my stand point on weres(at least those who have read my do you take it seriously thread), I have or had is more the word, a friend who is a hard core morman. The other day he came down to the libray when I was typing my thread that is mentioned above, he didn't say anything untill I was walking home.
As we were walking he startd asking me about my faith in god, I told him and he then asked my if I was sure what I told him was true, I asked him what he ment. He told me that he thinks I am a SATANIST :banghead: and that my belief in weres is an afront to god, opon telling me this he desided to go on a long ass rant about how I should repent and god almighty might save my soul. Has anyone else ever had anything likethis happen to them???
Hahaha! No, but don't you hate people like that? I don't think anyone, least of all God, should care about belief in weres, so to people like that, remember, they are very insecure if they have to tell you that you're going to hell, just because you believe in something they don't.
J.L.R.
02-29-2004, 10:03 PM
Nah. Grim's family is German, but Grim was born in NC, USA. Although he's lived all over the country by now.
That, and my Wray-Cam is in his shower, not in his boxers. I don't know WHO that one was.
I'm German too, as well as French, Irish, and Celtic. German though is more dominant than anything else.
However, even though I was born in OK, I get mistaken as a foriegn exchange student all the time! WHY!!! I know I know, it's the hair...the blonde hair... and the eyes, the blue eyes! :p
LOBO REY
03-01-2004, 08:05 AM
What the hell are we talkin' about? It better not be the jews. The first post was about the mormons talkin' shit about the members of this site. I know how the author feels the Catholics talk shit about me too.
Darth Cluich
03-01-2004, 08:55 AM
That, and my Wray-Cam is in his shower, not in his boxers. I don't know WHO that one was.
Um...that'd be me.
Thought
03-07-2004, 05:07 PM
I don't think you're friend had any right to go fire' n' brimstone on you. People shouldn't be assuming things about a person just because they read or talk about certain things. Besides which, does believing that something exists automatically make someone a satanist. I know a few wicca and a vampire (ie someone who ingests human blood), does that make me a satanist, no.
I'm the only person in my family who wears a cross, even though most of us are supposedly religious. I also am probably the only one who strongly believes in the existance of demons.
You have an interest and/or belief in werewolves, not in human sacrifice. Besides which, how many people in this day in age believe in the traditional werewolf anyway?
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