quick question

[phantomroller]

ok I have a question. I was wonderinging if it is ok to be a were or vampire and to be a Christian or any kind of religion that belives in God? My family is Christain and I was raised this way, but for a ocuple of months now I'm realizing that I'm a were. I'm not exactly into my religion anyhow, but I was wondering if it's contradicting to be a were or something like a vampire and Christian....I'm not sure if this was asked already, and if it was I'm sorry.

[LV426]

ok I have a question. I was wonderinging if it is ok to be a were or vampire and to be a Christian or any kind of religion that belives in God? My family is Christain and I was raised this way, but for a ocuple of months now I'm realizing that I'm a were. I'm not exactly into my religion anyhow, but I was wondering if it's contradicting to be a were or something like a vampire and Christian....I'm not sure if this was asked already, and if it was I'm sorry.
The answer is no.

You can be a were-christian if you want to.

[J.L.R.]

ok I have a question. I was wonderinging if it is ok to be a were or vampire and to be a Christian or any kind of religion that belives in God? My family is Christain and I was raised this way, but for a ocuple of months now I'm realizing that I'm a were. I'm not exactly into my religion anyhow, but I was wondering if it's contradicting to be a were or something like a vampire and Christian....I'm not sure if this was asked already, and if it was I'm sorry.

Well being raised a Christian doesn't make you a Christian. Since you say your family is a Christian family, I assume you know about how to become a Christian (and no it doesn't involve biting)?

As for myself, I am a Christian, and since I believe that God created every living creature, I feel that I have a closeness with nature, because I know the one who created it all. Thus appreciate the wild critters, besides myself. :) We all are animals, as mentioned in Ecclessiasties, so yes we all have an animal connection, in that since, but we also are spiritual, or I should say, religious, in the meaning that we question our existance. It is more than just intell that seperates us from wild animals, for every animal has the intel to do what it is designed to do, but desire to understand one's place is something different altogether.

Now as for vampires. The Bible does teach AGAINST drinking blood. But honestly drinking blood isn't a healthy practice anyway.

Does that help? Or did I just confuse you?

[Lost_Soul]

While I'm not sure if I believe there are weres and vampires and such, I do believe you can't be excluded from Christianity, as God loves everyone. Even if others persecute someone for who they ar ein any situation, what you believe is what you believe. If you follow a faith, there is no reason you should be excluded from it, even if other's think so. If they do....screw them. You just can't take what other people think you should be like seriously sometimes.

By the way, nobody jump on me because I'm not sure if weres or vampires are real, because that's what I've been taught. Despite the bitterness of this statement, I'll believe it when I see it. No offense to anyone if you are one of these, I just don't believe in it...:shrug:



It kinda would be cool if there are such people though!!! Hell, that would mean I could possibly be one, though I don't think I'm as blessed or cursed to be. I'm a pretty average thirteen year old...I think... :D

[Fennek]

If you are to take the dogmatic character the Church has imposed upon us,then NO, you can't be a Christian were.

But,if you are to percept faith not with your eyes or with your judgement,but with your soul and if you manage to strip away the true spirit of Christianity from the standards the Church has always fed our conscience with,then you can be a were and krrp your faith.Think about it:You are a creation of God nevertheless, are you not?God created you,as any of us weres in the same manner he created any other beings.

[LycanSpectre]

Let no one tell you what to believe. Believe only what you will, and what is in your heart.

I am a Therian. I have christain beliefs. I have other beliefs that are not christian. The bible teaches that God has infinite understanding for all, and infinite forgiveness. Furthermore, despite how some christains act, the bible also teaches that christains should not look down on others for believing in something else.

Now if you were to talk to a clergyperson, who usually are the least sympathetic people in matters of other religions/beliefs, the answer you would get is no. Screw that. They aren't God.

[lycanox]

Greatest Werewolf Secret.

Quite often the antagonist of the werewolf belief (and of werewolves themselves), is the Catholic church and its larger outgrowth of christianity in general. Through the church's inquisitions, tortures, and writings, the church has taught western culture of the "inherent" evil of werewolves. The werewolf was commonly believed to be the descendant of Cain or a monstrocity created by selling one's soul to the devil. Even today, the church in it's many forms views werewolves as the incarnate of evil, but there is one whom they've forgot. The greatest werewolf sercret of them all.

One must understand that in the medieval mappaemundi that lurking at the edges of the world were the monstorous races. At the times, authors like Pliny with his book "Natural History" who inculded illustrations and descriptions of these races culled from descriptions and classical writings ("Natural History" was said to have been created with about 20,000 facts extracted from 2000 classical volumes).These races were eclectic in appearence, and soe are even familiar tosya, while others seem outrageous. The Giants, the Pygmies, the Panotii (had giant ears), the Astomi (no mouths), the Anthropophagi (cannibals), the Amazons, etc etc etc. But, most improtantly, the Cynocephali.The Cynocephali, or Dog-heads, were one of the best known monstrous races. They had the body of a man and the head of a dog. According to Pliny, they lived in the mountains of India and barked to communicate. They lived in caves and wore animal skins. They hunted very succesfully and used javelins, bows and swords. Other sources that circulated in the middle ages, such as the account of Alaxander the Greats adventures in India picture the Cynocephali much more frightening, -- with enormous teeth and breathing fire. Severa sources make them cannibals. All sources emphasize that they combine the natures of man and beast.

The Cynocephali retained an interesting position in christian writings and teachings. Jeasus words in John (10:16) implied that there were many non christian flock arount thre world that need to be shepherded. This idea was renforced by the story of the Pentacost. As it was told in the Acts of the Apostles, tongues like flames and fire descended upon the apostles and they were given the gift to talk in strange languages. "Men of every nation under heaven" who lived in Jerusalem were amazed to hear the apostles speak their native languages.Depections of the nations present at the Pentecost was a popular theme in early christian art. The idea of "every nation under heaven" was taken seriously. Consequently, the Cynocephali appear frequently, such as in the "Theodore" Psalter that is in the British Library. It depicts Christ preaching to dog-headed men. A far from uncommon illustration.From the depection to dog-heads being preached to at the pentacost, follows the logical stories of dog-heads being converted to christianity. The stories of the missionary activities of the apostles are recorded in the New Testament. But these were to few to satisfy the faithful, so a number of non-canonical Acts of the Apostles, came into circulation.

One such, the "Contendings of the Apostles" has an extremely interesting section.The book describes the Acts of Andrew and Bartholomew among the Parthinians. The two apostles meet a giant cannibal named Abominable. As the name would suggest, he was a terrifying sight: - four cubits in height, and his face was like unto the face of a great dog, and his eyes were like unto lamps of fire which burnt brightly, and his teeth were like unto the tusks of a wild boar, or the teeth of a lion, and the nails of his hands were like unto curved reaping hooks, and the nails of his toes were like unto the claws of a lion, and the hair of his head came down over his arms like unto the mane of a lion, and his whole appearance was awful and terrifying. Luckily for the apostles, that when they chance upon Abmoinable after he has been visited with a vision, where he was promised a human form if he accepts the apostles' teachings. He does so, and become their guide through the heathen land.

Other conversions of dogheads include a saint or two. Saint Mercurius (not well known in western tradition, mostly in greek and egeyptian accounts) used converted Cynocephali as soldiers. They are very savage warriors. Where, like Abominable, the teachings rendered the Dog-heads gentle, their savegry (and cannibalism) can be revived for christianity at a saint's command.The greatest werewolf secret of all is not that the christian church, knew of, converted, and even used werewolves. The secret is much deeper in the church than mere converts and warriors. The secret is in the single name of Christopher.Saint Christopher is the patron saint of travelers and seafarers. He is fairly well known in western tradition. My own father (a sailor) wears a pendant of him. He is a saint that receives thousands of prayers a day from the faithful, and has always been a powerful figure. But the greatest secret of all is that Saint Cristopher is a Cynocephali, a dog-head, a werewolf.The fact that Saint Christopher is a Cynocephali was silently removed from most of western literature. Some of the best literature of the Saints life is located in Ireland and Celtic culture of Britian. It is probable that it has survived there due to the facts that the Irish Monks knew Greek and that the Irish Celtic culture was not romanized nearly as much as most of the rest of Europe.

The popular story of Christopher is very much like Abominable's. Christopher is born a pagan Dog-head called Reprobus. He regrets his beastial nature and is overjoyed when his conversion to Christianity allows him to lose his Cynocephalic nature.An eighth-century list of Saints explained that Christopher "was one of the Dog-heads, a race that had the heads of dogs and ate human flesh. He meditated much on God, but at that time could only speak the language of the Dog-heads."As time passed, the writings mentioned less and less of Christopher's Cynocephalic nature. Walter of Speyer wrote, in the tenth century, stated that Christopher "took his origins from the Cynocephali, a people in speech and countanence dissimilar to others."Sait Christopher was more popularly pictured as a giant carrying the christ child. This still satisfied that Christopher was a convert from a monstrous race. But it was probably more due to the fact that Christopher literally means Christ carrier.Saint Christopher was eventually ousted from the ranks of the saintly. And the belief of the Cynocephali remained in circulation for several hundred more years. It eventually mutated, through retellings and trials, to the great werewolf scares in the 1600s.

So there you have it. One of the best kept secrets of the werewolf world. Not only were werewolves employed and welcomed to the christian world, there is actually a werewolf saint. A great secret indeed.

I found this at werescape

[J.L.R.]

I dunno, I don't think I could take a Were-Baptist...that would be too scary... :D

There is no place in the Bible that God said, "Go out and destroy such and such animals because they are evil!" Animals can not be evil, for they are innocent, in the meaning that, they don't know the difference between good and evil.

Christianity as tought by the Bible, doesn't command Christians to go executing witches or werewolves. Jesus Christ didn't, and as a CHRISTian we are to follow His example. In fact when Jesus, was presented with a prostetute, the Pharisees and the Sadduccees, exclaimed, "By OUR law, she is to be stoned." Jesus answered them, after drawing on the ground, "Who is with out sin, cast the first stone."

When we, as Christians, condemn somebody unlawfully (unlawfully meaning cases that don't concern breaking the USA laws, like stealing, murder, ect..), like saying that person is bad because... or because... (get the point) we are making ourselves judges, but because we don't fully understand the person's mindset, nor reasons, we are imperfect in that since, because we, as humans, have our own faults. Now Jesus didn't say she was sinless and not doing wrong, in fact he told her, not to sin again.

The center of true Christianity is love, however though out history different people have purposely left that part out, in order to "help" God control people. These people were religious in structure, but were devils inwardly. If you narrowed it down to the point, you would see that these people were inforcing their will, and not God's will, for in truth they were so consumed with their religion, that they, just like the Pharisees, had forgotten the source.

What the church did during those dark ages, was no different that the crimes that Adolf Hittle and Saddam have commited. True faith, brings freedom, not enslavement...

[DarkHunter]

I'm a pretty average thirteen year old...I think... :D

There are no average thirteen year olds.

[kat]

There are no average thirteen year olds.
You're right. They're all below-average. ;)

[phantomroller]

well not all 13 year olds are that bad...

but anyhow, thanks for the replies. I go to a church now and this one person found out about me being a were and they didn't take it very well. they just kinda look at me all funny and make smart ass remarks about werewolfs and stuff such as: hey the moons full tonight, don't bite me, I might become like you" or something like that. and this is the same person who said not to make fun of others because you're making fun of God in the process....don't make very much sense. and then they're always trying to pray over me like I'm cursed or something. they think that if they pray over me then I won't be this way anymore...

it seems that all the Christians that I have met seem to be very hypicritical (I can't spell....) and very very closed minded to anything that's not like them. I'm not saying all Christians are like that because there are some very decent Christians, but I haven't really met one decent christian person actually....and it makes me lose hope for ever expolring the Christian faith again because if they represent what Jesus is, then it's almost like, why become like that. I don't know maybe it's me. but when ever I'm around the people at my church, I feel so scared and so rejected. most of them have rejected me actually for othe reasons such as the clothes I wear or the music I listen to (heavy metal music at that) it's stupid reasons.

ok I'm done venting now. sorry. anyhow, thanks for the responses I appreciate your help.

[LV426]

well not all 13 year olds are that bad...

but anyhow, thanks for the replies. I go to a church now and this one person found out about me being a were and they didn't take it very well. they just kinda look at me all funny and make smart ass remarks about werewolfs and stuff such as: hey the moons full tonight, don't bite me, I might become like you" or something like that. and this is the same person who said not to make fun of others because you're making fun of God in the process....don't make very much sense. and then they're always trying to pray over me like I'm cursed or something. they think that if they pray over me then I won't be this way anymore...

it seems that all the Christians that I have met seem to be very hypicritical (I can't spell....) and very very closed minded to anything that's not like them. I'm not saying all Christians are like that because there are some very decent Christians, but I haven't really met one decent christian person actually....and it makes me lose hope for ever expolring the Christian faith again because if they represent what Jesus is, then it's almost like, why become like that. I don't know maybe it's me. but when ever I'm around the people at my church, I feel so scared and so rejected. most of them have rejected me actually for othe reasons such as the clothes I wear or the music I listen to (heavy metal music at that) it's stupid reasons.

ok I'm done venting now. sorry. anyhow, thanks for the responses I appreciate your help.

As I have stated before if you reay want to win your war against those pithy pathetic bible thumping nincompoops then you need to learn the religion better than they do, and then use it against them. So that when someone passes judgement on you then you can use that against them and at the same time use the Bible against them by stating that they are violating god's will by casting judgement upon another. Here's some nice ammunition that I always like to keep on hand.

You see "Judge Not" is mentioned 7 times in the Bible. I find those verses to be particularly usefull.

2 Chronicles 19:6 And said to the judges, Take heed what ye do: for ye judge not for man, but for the LORD, who is with you in the judgment.

Isaiah 1:23 Thy princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves: every one loveth gifts, and followeth after rewards: they judge not the fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them.

Jeremiah 5:28 They are waxen fat, they shine: yea, they overpass the deeds of the wicked: they judge not the cause, the cause of the fatherless, yet they prosper; and the right of the needy do they not judge.

Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Luke 6:37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

1 Corinthians 4:3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self.

Oh and when they call you names or pick on you or say that you are evil or whatever else that seems to be out of line, then all you have to do is turn and tell them that they aren't very good christians and perhaps they should go read their Bible so that they may learn how to act and behave in a more christian way and not the hypocritical bigot way.

[LycanSpectre]

Phantom, how those "christians" act is precicely why I do not call myself christian; I dont want to be associated with that type of behaviour. I live my life my own way, by whatever standard I choose. I dont want to be guilty by association. Besides, I hate having people tell me what to believe, how to think, how to dress, etc, like any church does. :banghead:

[J.L.R.]

I am a Christian, a fundamentalist at that, and I don't act like that way...

[LycanSpectre]

I am a Christian, a fundamentalist at that, and I don't act like that way...

That makes you the exception to the rule. Way to go.

[J.L.R.]

I want to add something else...

If I told you smoking was bad for your health, that it could cause lung cancer, and ruin your house paint, as well as make all your clothes stink, would I be judging you? No, because we know all of that is true.

The Bible has rules. Those rules aren't there to control you, but protect you from things that could harm you, or make you unhappy.

Just because you don't like a rule, doesn't make that rule wrong. To me a good rule, is a rule with a purpose. If there is a reason for it, then I will obey it. Understand?

Ok, next time someone tells you what or what not to do, ask them why, and then that opens up a discussion, so that you can state your point, and they can theirs. Always though, be polite, even if they aren't....so in the end, you are a better person.

[MidnightPsi]

I don't go to chruch because of people like that, but then again I prefer to worship alone anyway.

[J.L.R.]

Well in a church run according as the Bible states, is not an organization, but an organism, meaning it is a family. My church is just like that. We are all family, even though we are not related. We all have deep bonds with one another, in so much, if one person hurts we all hurt. Everyone is there to lift you up when you are down. There may be times when you get scolded, it is to instruct and protect and not to control.

A church such as mine has a leader, the Pastor, who is the wisest, and more learned in Biblical princaples. He teaches us about God's word, and instructs us to read it for ourselves, so that we may know lie from truth. He is also strong, spiritually, often warding off those who would harm us internally. The rest of us aren't just rocks that sit under hard preaching though, we each have a purpose and responsibilities, that help keep the church alive. We are one in the same, under one Lord, one Savior, one Spirit, one God. In essance we are the living body of Christ, as tought by the Bible.

Many modernistic churches have left the old ways for emotionlistic enjoyments, often leaving out the most important aspects that make Christians Christians, The Biblical Standards, the blood of the Faith. They like to hear good things that make them feel happy, but like a drug, it doesn't create true happiness, it generates a false happiness that leaves when the "good feeling" wears off.

That is why you get soooo many judgemental Christians. Their faith is shallow, their knowledge is weak. They are still babes of the faith, if they have even have been born yet, Born Again that is. No truth, no convictions, just doing what feels good, living a false life....

I truly feel sorry for these kids here, who for some reason or another have been made to feel lesser about themselves do to some retard, who thinks because he can quote a Biblical verse or two, is holier than thou. My heart and prayers go out to you all...

Don't judge God or the Faith by the retards. There are good Christians out there that are still true to the cause. We grow few in number, do to not being in the IN crowd, but we are still here.

[biteakashka]

Be who you want to be if you are happy whats inside yourself go with it. :p

[The_Brenin]

If you think about it, you shouldn't go to church for the other people, you should be going for yourself. Those people that might make fun of you, they have no right to judge you. It says in the bible that the lord is the only one who truly can cast judgement on us.
As for the your first question, you can be a were and a christian. If you believe the basic fundementals that are christian, than you yourself are one. Don't let other people tell you otherwise. You know what you believe, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Yes, there are churches out there that would tell you no, but those are just churches, its their pastor, priest, or whatever that says so, not god himself. Personly, don't just sit there and listen to everything that the preecher says, do some homework on it, look through the scriptures, pray if need be, and figure this stuff out on your own. Build your own testomony, don't rely on others. If you do this, who knows, church might be more meaningfull for you. And yes, there are churches out there that will accept you for who you REALLY are.