View Full Version : Originalty... Dead?
MorganaFang
01-24-2004, 06:18 PM
Are we not just all copying nowadays, or taking bits and pieces of other's ideas?
Hello, MorganaFang. I recognise your screenname from para.com.
Anyways, I must say that your question is somewhat vague and ambiguous. Might you specify a little bit more as to what exactly you are hitting out at? :)
MorganaFang
01-24-2004, 06:32 PM
Hello, MorganaFang. I recognise your screenname from para.com.
Anyways, I must say that your question is somewhat vague and ambiguous. Might you specify a little bit more as to what exactly you are hitting out at? :)
Otay, pardon, my vagueness. Well, really I've posted about this before I'm trying to say that is there really anything new in the world to be discovered? For so long everything that has been new are just things that evolved from something prior. Truthfully I really don't know how to clear it up anymore than that:shrug:
J.L.R.
01-24-2004, 06:39 PM
There are always new things to discover. While many people bath with unoriginal ideas, there are the few you go against the flow and make something new.
As far as life goes, scientists are finding new discoveries every year, while some may be minute, there are others that are grand, such as Spirit landing on Mars. As we learn more about this world, our understanding of it grows.
Artistic trends come and go. You get one person who does something completely different, and then you have those who liked what they did and copied, or built upon, like music and movies. These trends last for several years, until somebody else breaks the mold and shoves the trend into an entirely new direction.
Originality isn't dead, it is just in hybernation right now. :)
Indeed. There is a lot of new stuff invented everyday.
History: So much of our past is unknown. Yet, every day we come closet to finding out about ourselves.
Arts: With a seemingly infinite wealth of different inspirations, artists, authors, sculptors etc, are creating original masterpieces every day.
Science: As with history, there is so much we don't know.
Exploration: As well a space, we haven't really explore two-thirds of our own planet. Who knows what lives in the deepest depths of the ocean?
Just four short off-the-top-of-my-head examples.
The real question isn't whether originality is still valid. It is. The question is, what area do you want to explore? Seriously, develop an interest in a particulat field, and new things will come to you. Boredom is the easiest thing in the world to cure.
kaycee
01-24-2004, 09:24 PM
One can only imagine what's in the deepest depths of our big beautiful oceans. That's one thing I wish was explored more. Who knows, there may be a cure for cancer in there somewhere hey?
MexicanJewLizard
01-24-2004, 09:34 PM
Yo Andy! Supizzle. I missed ya.
Hey Kaycee... ya evil biatch. :p
I think it's pretty much dead, Morgana.... ;)
Wolffy13
01-25-2004, 01:09 AM
It would explain why I don't watch many movies anymore. These days it almost feels like if you've seen one of them, you've seen them all. There are the exceptions as of late though, thankfully (Lord of the Rings, Matrix movies and what not) but if I saw a movie every week, I'd want my money back.
Otherwise I would agree that it is in hibernation, just temporarily on hold.
Hellcat
01-25-2004, 02:20 PM
without copy-cats science wouldn't develope. Hey we wouldn't have DVD players if someone hadn't invented the CD player first- They are both based on the same principle. Yep someone may come up with something original, but then they'll be a million other people ready to jump on the band wagon and make it bigger and better and faster. We wouldn't have mobile (cell) phones if Alexander Graham Bell hadn't invented the telephone. Thank God he did, or we might still be using the primitive dial phones and shouting for the operator. Originality is a great seed to plant, but without someone to tend to it, it won't develop into something more impressive. Unfortunately this thesis doesn't apply to movie themes
kaycee
01-25-2004, 02:35 PM
without copy-cats science wouldn't develope. Hey we wouldn't have DVD players if someone hadn't invented the CD player first- They are both based on the same principle. Yep someone may come up with something original, but then they'll be a million other people ready to jump on the band wagon and make it bigger and better and faster. We wouldn't have mobile (cell) phones if Alexander Graham Bell hadn't invented the telephone. Thank God he did, or we might still be using the primitive dial phones and shouting for the operator. Originality is a great seed to plant, but without someone to tend to it, it won't develop into something more impressive. Unfortunately this thesis doesn't apply to movie themes
I've often wondered how much more modern can things get? What could be better than what we already have, and why would we want better? What we have is good enough and then some. It's more than good enough.
Other than polution causing things, I'd say stop trying to improve things that do not need improving.
Hellcat
01-25-2004, 04:15 PM
I've often wondered how much more modern can things get? What could be better than what we already have, and why would we want better? What we have is good enough and then some. It's more than good enough.
Other than polution causing things, I'd say stop trying to improve things that do not need improving.
We could do that, but human nature won't allow it- we would still be hunter gathers living in animal hide tents, killing animals with flint arrow heads, and cutting them up with nicely edged rocks if we didn't fix things that weren't broken. On the other hand wolves, lynxes and beavers would still be populating britain. It doesn't matter that what we see now is good enough, there is always some twonk who finds some superficial excuse for improvement
kaycee
01-27-2004, 08:49 AM
We could do that, but human nature won't allow it- we would still be hunter gathers living in animal hide tents, killing animals with flint arrow heads, and cutting them up with nicely edged rocks if we didn't fix things that weren't broken. On the other hand wolves, lynxes and beavers would still be populating britain. It doesn't matter that what we see now is good enough, there is always some twonk who finds some superficial excuse for improvement
Hey, I hear that. I too think it was necessary to invent more modern/easier ways to live and do things. But it seems that we're at the point now where it isn't necessary to keep improving like we did in the past.
I saw a robot doing surgery on the Discovery Channel. That's just wrong. Why invent such things? It's stupid.
Life is good, things are easy (too damn easy some could say).
Hellcat
01-27-2004, 03:12 PM
Hey, I hear that. I too think it was necessary to invent more modern/easier ways to live and do things. But it seems that we're at the point now where it isn't necessary to keep improving like we did in the past.
I saw a robot doing surgery on the Discovery Channel. That's just wrong. Why invent such things? It's stupid.
Life is good, things are easy (too damn easy some could say).
I for one would not like to be under the knife of a robotic surgeon. Some how it seems like a death senttence- something is bound to go wrong as always does on occassions with man-made objects. Even CD players screw up now and again. I certainly see the point you are getting at.
Frostbeard
01-28-2004, 04:32 PM
It would explain why I don't watch many movies anymore. These days it almost feels like if you've seen one of them, you've seen them all. There are the exceptions as of late though, thankfully (Lord of the Rings, Matrix movies and what not) but if I saw a movie every week, I'd want my money back.
Otherwise I would agree that it is in hibernation, just temporarily on hold.
There's a reason for it where entertainment is concerned though: Entertainment is an industry, and a very profitable one at that. The reason you don't actually see much innovation is that you're only seeing what sells.
Record labels, movie studios and the like only promote what they know will sell. They're not willing to take big risks, so they work off of a formula... if something has worked in the past, they assume it will still work. Thus, we see the repetition of themes with very little deviation from them.
If you actually dig around, there are lots of artists out there creating incredibly original music, movies, books, video games, etc. The problem is that people don't hear about them. Cult movies are the result of this sort of thing - the people who see them, love them. The problem is that almost nobody actually sees them.
I think the same could be said of a lot of things. If you actually dig a little into any field, there are lots of people working on very innovative and interesting things. We simply don't hear about them in our day to day lives. Since we're information junkies nowadays, we assume that if we don't hear about something, it isn't happening.
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