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MorganaFang
01-26-2004, 03:42 PM
A thought occured to me while in class today about how human society is with our social rank and of all things how it is compare to the animals (can you tell I really like animals?). Anyway, I tried to work through my mind leaders I knew who didn't have any failings that weren't childish or "evil". I did come up with a few: Martin Luther King, Ghandi, Malcolm X and many more (those are just the names I could spell). Yet there seemed to be a severe pattern with all these leaders, they all predate my time or awareness of their actions. What I know of how they used their power all comes to me pretty close to third hand. So really I don't know if they were as great as they seemed.
Another thing I noticed was that because they all predated my time no leader that came after has ever really desplayed a similar source of power. In many cases the more recent leaders I thought of all acted in some ways immature when it came to certain issues. Now I know they are all human but can pettiness and immaturity really be apart of a person who is supposed to be a good leader or person in power position?
I only ask really because I am at times very childish and very petty, I'm supposed to be a leader in mentoring kids and running the art club but sometimes all I want to do is just slice some people I hate from the picture and leave the ones that are more agreeble to me. Course I never act on the impulse, except to give those who displease me a "talking to." But only if I have others backing me.
PureMoonlite
01-26-2004, 05:52 PM
who exactly do you hate from your art club? I take it that you're a teacher?
MorganaFang
01-26-2004, 05:56 PM
who exactly do you hate from your art club? I take it that you're a teacher?
Founder/ President and no hate was actually too strong a word, I'm annoyed with all of them currently, including my friends. Just because I never intended for any of it to become so clique-ish. I wanted to help find a common ground for artists in the community we live in which is quite constrained. Never did I know the artist population was diverse in a way I never expected.
PureMoonlite
01-26-2004, 06:08 PM
So, are they causing you grief?
J.L.R.
01-26-2004, 06:22 PM
Founder/ President and no hate was actually too strong a word, I'm annoyed with all of them currently, including my friends. Just because I never intended for any of it to become so clique-ish. I wanted to help find a common ground for artists in the community we live in which is quite constrained. Never did I know the artist population was diverse in a way I never expected.
Not only are artists diverse, they can be down right weird at times. That is because almost every artist has a different way of looking at things. Some artists will even argue what is art. One art form is better than another one. I know in my Color and Design class at RSC, my professor would rant about CG graphics not being really an art form.
Just be patient and keep things broad. It's hard, but it can be done.
MorganaFang
01-26-2004, 06:31 PM
Not only are artists diverse, they can be down right weird at times. That is because almost every artist has a different way of looking at things. Some artists will even argue what is art. One art form is better than another one. I know in my Color and Design class at RSC, my professor would rant about CG graphics not being really an art form.
Just be patient and keep things broad. It's hard, but it can be done.
To tell the truth I'm the down right weird one and thats the types I was hoping to attrack considering I know how it feels to be so alone as a "freak" among the norms. What I got was half of what I wanted and the other half is normal, suburbanite children with a tendency just to fudd around or leave to get high while I'm working on making this a legitamate thing.
MorganaFang
01-26-2004, 06:37 PM
To tell the truth I'm the down right weird one and thats the types I was hoping to attrack considering I know how it feels to be so alone as a "freak" among the norms. What I got was half of what I wanted and the other half is normal, suburbanite children with a tendency just to fudd around or leave to get high while I'm working on making this a legitamate thing.
One mo t'ing, I was only using myself as an example could we go back to my original question.:droolbloo
MidnightPsi
01-26-2004, 08:00 PM
If you were truley creative you wouldn't have to get high to get inspired.
Anyway, you'd think if we had someone who was smart and wanted to lead people they'd study these great leaders real hard. You'd think that wouldn't you, but I doubt that any leader today does. So here are some theories:
1) Politicains are too lazy or just don't care (Immature)
2) Being a good leader today takes a different method than the ones used back then
I'm going to go with #1 cause I'm thinkin if Bush got to be president then becoming a leader is just way to easy for anyones good (j/k I think?). A leader will by human nature be immature and petty but a great leader wouldn't let that side of him/her effect his/her leadership in anyway.
J.L.R.
01-26-2004, 08:35 PM
There are good leaders out there, and I might be the devil's advocate, but I think Bush is a great leader. I'm tired of butt-kiss economics to just please the masses. It's time to get this country back into shape, after the crooked Clinton years...
But anyway, that is for another post, and another place in time.
The biggest problem in today's society is there is too much politics. It isn't about doing what is right, it is about doing what you want, and worrying about the ramifications of actions later, instead of dealing with the problems at hand. Martin Luther King Jr. was a wonderful man, who stood for what was right, and unfortunately that cost him his life. Our society today is so butt-kiss ethics, that our leaders are more worried about keeping the whiners happy than LEADING. That of course is why I like Bush. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not a bobble head Republican that votes Repub or bust. I'd vote democrate, and I'd have no problem with it.
Leaders aren't there to do what everybody wants. They are there to do what is right.
MorganaFang you're not a freak, and there is no such thing as a normal person. BELIEVE me, I have dealt with people for years, and I have yet to meet a normal person. Everybody has issues. Everybody has quirks. Those who say they don't are hidding something.
Hellcat
01-27-2004, 03:33 PM
My thoughts on leadership are this
1. You must realise that you can never please everyone
2. You can please yourself, but is what you want the right for the people?
3. Listen to opinions..I mean listen, don't hear and forget.
4. Use these opinions to build up a picture of what the people want
5. Reach a conclusion based upon what you have learned from the people, experience and fact (market research if you will)
6. you can never please everyone
I think the problem with some leaders these days is that they have already reached a discission before they have heard what the people have to say. They then try fit the square shape into a round hole so it seems that it all fits in together. It rarely does, but what do I know, I'm just a commoner. Also leadership isn't an easy task. Waying up the balance of conflicting views as well as personal feelings (which is bound to stick is nose in somewhere) has got to be hard work
Totally irrelevent, but just out of inteterest, anyone listened to the Bob Dylan song "It's all right ma (I'm only bleeding)"? Shit hot lyrics there I tell you.
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