Lucid Dreams

[Alter Ego]

There is a certain state that one is able to attin whilst asleep. I noticed this dream section and jus had to grant you this train of thought. Have you ever heard of..
"Lucid Dreaming" no?
Well even if you had I'll tell you anyway.
The mind is an amzingly complex organ, able to process and collect vast amounts of nformation and 'dreams' were origionaly though to be a representation of your mind woking out problems, fantasys or memories. Now LUCID dreaming is a state at which someone can attain whilst freaming in which the REALISE they are dreaming and can take control of their dreams,They can fly, shapechange, create anythig from an apple pie to an entire continant. I'm not kidding about this and can post a mutitude of research papers up...but that would take a long time so just trust me. In this state you are able to do prettymuch anything. If you can imagine doing it then while you are lucid..you can.
This may sound like a dream for all you virtual reality keenos out there but it does require a bit of fore knowledge to get the most potentional out of it.
What you have to do is realise you are dreaming,. while you are dreaming. Some people can do this naturally and I myself have passed into a lucid like state in which my logical mind will take into account that things aren't right. For instance...
One of the previous post a member mentioned that she had a dream in which she was observing her friend yet couldn't talk of communicate. This inability is actualy a sort of 'Wall' in your own mind that prevents you from doing a certain action, such as fly, shapeshift, teleport, walk through wals etc. Now if she were to become 'lucid' she could mentaly break down these barriers adn talk to her friend about the problems. This dream could be unease in herself or she could actually be veiwing her friends dreamstate, this is know as 'shared dreaming'
Now how do I become lucid to do anyhting I want and solve all my problems you ask? Well now coes the important bit.
Do hings called reality checks, if you have a watch with an hourly alarm every time it beeps have a lok at yourself and your surroundings and ask, "Am I dreaming", and really ask yourself this not just say it in yourhead and keep going. You don't have to say it out loud just think about it. This will eventualy get grinded into your suconcious and you'll eventually have a dream where you will ask, "Am I dreaming" and the answer will be yes.
Problem here is that if you get too excited or panic you'll probably blow apart your dream and wake up rather confused but excited.
Now this may not happen to any of you becaue Alter Werewof Egos\ forms has quite a bit of imagination behind it, therefore you all probably have more of an ability to handel the fact that you are experiencing a world of your own making.

Now why did I post this incredibaly lo-o-o-ng explanaion about lucid dreaming? I have what I call my dream state body, a rather tall dark furred wolflike creature with quite a lot of dexterity and strength (being able to handplant from a stand on a metal rail is pretty god :p ). This dream character hasbeen my inspiration to attain to, a sort of goal if you would. I see a wereform as being something to be proud of, something better that I am and therefore can strive to be that form. I have recently been holding myslef straighter (posture), been eating better, learning better and going to the gym. I see it as a sort of inspiration.
And nothing wrong with being hopeful either :)

If you want more info on this subject just e-mail me sometime.

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[Xzengrim]

Oh YEAH! Xzengrim has lucid dreams ALL the time. I had some just last night, actually. It's interesting; when I realize that it is all a dream, the dream threatens momentarily to dissipate. I can usually hold them together, though, and after that I get to choose whatever happens. Usually I run to a mirror and practice my shifting. I've gotten pretty good at turning myself into a wolf. Although, on occasion, I've pretty much run rampant through lucid dreams; turning myself to stone or fire or ice, growing things out of thin air, leaping and flying and lifting incredibly heavy things. Feats of reality. It's fun.
One interesting thing I have noticed, though, is that sometimes when I shift into a werewolf, I don't realize that I have done so. I mean, I TRY to shift, and it works... but when I look at my fur and paws and so on, I consider them my natural form and believe that the shift must not have worked! Perception changes.

[Alter Ego]

Interesting. To stabalise in your dreams do some kind of physical action like...
rubbng your hands together (or paws :p)
spin around real fast ((can cause locational shift)
grab something and hold real tight (rail, wall, etc.)

[DarkWolf]

I have had lucid dreams almost every night for the last 14 years.

[moonrise]

Is there any way of encouraging lucid dreams because I have never had the pleasure of one and would like to stop with the weird ass dreams I have been having latley.

[DarkWolf]

Is there any way of encouraging lucid dreams because I have never had the pleasure of one and would like to stop with the weird ass dreams I have been having latley.
It comes naturally to me, so my help will be greatly limited.

Some say that focusing on a favourite image (e.g. a full moon, a book cover, a poster, anything like that) frequently throughout the day and again at night before going to sleep: your mind will place this image in the dream and when you encounter it, you will realise you are dreaming but won't wake up. At this point you will have achieved lucid dreaming and should then be able to control the dream.

[Tohaan]

Lucid dreaming is not something I was born with, and with it I have lost out in some ways.

It happened after I watched 'Friday the 13th'. I'm serious here, i had watched the clip when Freddy was going alone the alley with his arms streched out, I was about 6/7 years old and had to go down a small passage to get home. :cry:

After that I had nightmares for months and could do nothing about them...

Then in one of my nightmares I made Freddy tap dance. Then next dream I held a shotgun and killed him repeatedly.
Fact was my mind could not handle the effect that the nightmares were doing. So now I could, and ever since, control what happens in my dreams.

But then I lost one of my best recuring dreams I have ever had. It was your basic falling dream and was one of the earist I remember. Also during my early teens I could not remember anyone of my dreams.

I have since started having more regular dreams, but i find these normal dreams happen during the 12:00-03:00 time period, while Lucid dreams happen either side.

This is my experiance and you have to take what you can use, since it is always personal i wished you see how i manage to achive lucid dreaming. :wavey:

[moonrise]

Heh, i'll be trying those out, thanx. And oh god, Tohaan, I feel so sorry for you, that must have been traumatic, and I should know, I always get stuck with scary parts of movies, but not as bad as that sounded.

[BloodFang]

Another question by me, based on my own experiences ^_^

One day I was practicing visualization. After some time I slowly got mental tired and I think I doze off into something that could seem a lot to me like a lucid dreaming state. It started in the room I had been visualized (not the place I was sitting in), and continued from that point. I talked with a friend in the dream, actually we discussed the therory of P-shifting, which to me, sounded very interesting. And yes, we confirmed that it would be possible, but under very special cercumstances.. Anyway, as soon as I left the room I had visualized before faling asleep, I woke up.

When I got up, I could still remember everything as clear as if it had just happened and in the start I wasn't sure what I actually had done to enduce the state :rolleyes:

[MexicanJewLizard]

Sounds like medetation. *shrugs*

If I remember correctly, it was probably OBE (Outter body experience) rather than lucid dreaming. Did he have the same experience? If so, was he dreaming, or in the same form as you were?

Details people! :cool:

[BloodFang]

Sounds like medetation. *shrugs*

If I remember correctly, it was probably OBE (Outter body experience) rather than lucid dreaming. Did he have the same experience? If so, was he dreaming, or in the same form as you were?

Details people! :cool:

I talked with him today and he said that he was ding some psi work at that point of time, which means he was not in a uncouncious state of mind. But you might be right about OBE or astral projection, it could be both, but compared to the details in the dream it was probably an OBE. Well anymore detils would be that I relived a moment in my life, in that dream, OBE, whatever..thingie :shrug:

[Frostbeard]

Another question by me, based on my own experiences ^_^

One day I was practicing visualization. After some time I slowly got mental tired and I think I doze off into something that could seem a lot to me like a lucid dreaming state. It started in the room I had been visualized (not the place I was sitting in), and continued from that point. I talked with a friend in the dream, actually we discussed the therory of P-shifting, which to me, sounded very interesting. And yes, we confirmed that it would be possible, but under very special cercumstances.. Anyway, as soon as I left the room I had visualized before faling asleep, I woke up.

When I got up, I could still remember everything as clear as if it had just happened and in the start I wasn't sure what I actually had done to enduce the state :rolleyes:

Visualization on its own is nothing but self-indulgence and delusion, if you want to get right down to it.

Lucid dreaming is a very specific type of dreaming, in which you have total control over what you do and what happens within that dream. It doesn't imply any kind of "magickal" or "psionic" ability on its own. ANYONE can do it, if they spend even a tiny bit of time training themselves to recognize when they are dreaming. A lot of people ALWAYS lucid dream, even without training.

The reason that many books and articles on magick and psionics mention lucid dreaming is that it provides a stepping stone to other supposed abilities, like astral projection, bilocation, remote viewing and time travel. I don't think anyone with half a brain claims that those abilities come automatically with lucid dreaming.

[DarkWolf]

Lucid dreaming is a very specific type of dreaming, in which you have total control over what you do and what happens within that dream. It doesn't imply any kind of "magickal" or "psionic" ability on its own. ANYONE can do it, if they spend even a tiny bit of time training themselves to recognize when they are dreaming. A lot of people ALWAYS lucid dream, even without training.

This is true, I myself am one of those people who always lucid dream without training.

Can I also extend the definition?

Lucid: easily understood, intelligible, rational or sane of mind, mentally sound.

Lucid is often used in description as anything clearly defined or intelligent. A lucid dream, by definition, can be a dream that is just highly detailed, clear and rational. This would be a dream where one can still use their five sense in a form of "sensory recall" if you will. Your brain remembers those senses and applies them to the images and dreams of the visuospatial sketchpad (the "mind's eye" - what you see in your head). This can be applied to a realistic level with or without concious control. However, oftentimes the realism of the dream raises the concious awareness of the dream allowing the person to control either themselves in the dream, or the whole of their dream.

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This should be in "DREAMS"

[kaycee]

This is true, I myself am one of those people who always lucid dream without training.

Can I also extend the definition?

Lucid: easily understood, intelligible, rational or sane of mind, mentally sound.

Lucid is often used in description as anything clearly defined or intelligent. A lucid dream, by definition, can be a dream that is just highly detailed, clear and rational. This would be a dream where one can still use their five sense in a form of "sensory recall" if you will. Your brain remembers those senses and applies them to the images and dreams of the visuospatial sketchpad (the "mind's eye" - what you see in your head). This can be applied to a realistic level with or without concious control. However, oftentimes the realism of the dream raises the concious awareness of the dream allowing the person to control either themselves in the dream, or the whole of their dream.

-EDIT-

This should be in "DREAMS"

I have lucid dreams often enough. Not by will, they just happen. I still can't 'make' it happen. Usually when I'm lucid it's a nightmare. I realize 'this has got to be a friggen dream' and I become lucid and fly away. My lucidity seems to only come to me when I need to escape something. I had one single 'good' lucid dream. It didn't last nearly long enough. In fact, it seemed it only lasted a minute tops.

Here's a great link about lucid dreams.

www.lucidity.com

[SugarFalls]

I'm not sure how, but a couple of weeks ago I had my first lucid dream. It seemed real at first until I got furhter on into the dream. I was in my house and I was just walking around. The front door was open so I decided to look outside, and as soon as I did I heard a car coming so I shut the door. Then I turn around and I see all of this cluttered junk laying around. I walk over to it, and see a weird looking clock. I pick the clock up and I'm about to take it apart (bad habbit of taking things apart and putting them back don't ask), when I wake up.

I think it may be because at the time the dream was taking place I had another one of my bad stomache virus. Or it could have been all the medicine I was taking (or trying to take....puked it all back up), It was pretty cool, however it came along. I just wish I knew what it meant also. But like I said, if was my first lucid dream.

[Necro Mortis]

I have had the pleasure before and its great. Flying is a very rewarding one but sometimes a lucid dream can turn back into a dream once I start beleiving its actually real.... Anywho the sensation you get if you leap off of a mountain in a dream is fantastic, try it. Wolf dreams are good, specially when you can be one aswell ;)

[WildChild]

:wavey:


this "lucid dreaming" thing... I first read about it yesterday... at this thread.. and during the night. I dreamt the same dream at least three times. And in all of those dreams I knew I was dreaming... but when I knew that I knew... I woke up... three times, same dream. and all I recall from the dream is a women... I can't remember her face though.. but she was dressed like 13 century style.. I think.

Help me with this.. why do I wake up when I realise that i am dreaming?

[Necro Mortis]

Maybe you are only realising it is a dream after you wake up. That split second after you wake can seem as if its part of the dream.

[WildChild]

Well... you're probably right... too bad actually... since I got very interested in this thing.

Ohh... maby I should go to sleep to see if I can continue my dreaming.

But this is interesting... I'd love to dream a Lucid dream... but I just can't...

[kaycee]

:wavey:


this "lucid dreaming" thing... I first read about it yesterday... at this thread.. and during the night. I dreamt the same dream at least three times. And in all of those dreams I knew I was dreaming... but when I knew that I knew... I woke up... three times, same dream. and all I recall from the dream is a women... I can't remember her face though.. but she was dressed like 13 century style.. I think.

Help me with this.. why do I wake up when I realise that i am dreaming?

In my experience, lucid dreams are very short. This is because once you realize you are lucid (you know you're dreaming), in the back of your mind you're worrying about waking up and you do. You try to do what you want to do before you wake, but there just isn't time.

There are ways of teaching yourself to stay asleep though. I just haven't been able to accomplish it yet. Look through the link www.lucidity.com There you can find all the info you need to practice.

[Darth Cluich]

In my experience, lucid dreams are very short. This is because once you realize you are lucid (you know you're dreaming), in the back of your mind you're worrying about waking up and you do. You try to do what you want to do before you wake, but there just isn't time.

I actually have the opposite happen to me, usually in nightmares. I realize I'm dreaming and tell myself, in the dream, that I need to wake up. Trouble is, I always have a hard time doing so.

[kaycee]

I actually have the opposite happen to me, usually in nightmares. I realize I'm dreaming and tell myself, in the dream, that I need to wake up. Trouble is, I always have a hard time doing so.
Yeah, I know what you mean about those kind of dreams. I hate those. I force my eyes to open so hard. With these kind of dreams, I want to wake up and fast. But others, I just fly away or whatever then force myself awake. It's always such a relief when I do wake up.

[Thought]

I almost never have lucid dreams. I can recall maybe 4 times that i did. Whenever i become lucid and try to affect my dreams, i wake up.

It sucks because my brother has them all the time.

[Erinye]

anyone else get lucid flying dreams? those are so fun. but the other night I had one where my flying was ~really~ lousy, and I woke up and thought "what was THAT?? I can do better than that!!"

another time, I was flying between universes that were represented by rooms in a building (another recurring theme) and I entered a universe where flying wasn't possible .. what's up with that, huh? so anyway, I instantly plummeted to the ground, only in this universe the ground consisted entirely of badly polluted water. so I had to ~swim~ to the other side. I'm just thankful I never have a sense of smell in my dreams.

[Erinye]

mmmmmmm ... I feel stupid, I started another Ludid Dream thread without noticing this one. sorry. I need to think and lurk before I act *mentally bonks self on head*

I feel really lucky .. I seem to have "semi-lucid" dreams, where I know its a dream sort of, in the back of my mind, but the dreams last a long time and stuff. I can fly in those dreams, but not shapeshift .. honestly it has never occured to me to try to shapeshift. I'm always human or human/wild goose in those dreams. I only ever had a few animal dreams ... once a tiger, once a Chinese dragon, once a dolphin, and once a shapeshifting were-eagle.

oh, no! I just remembered another lucid dream where I was a lioness :p I doesn't like lions, wonder why that happened. but the animal dreams aren't usually lucid, although the dragon and were-eagle ones were.

shapeshifting would be fun .... I might go check out that website, lucidity.com.... :)

[kaycee]

anyone else get lucid flying dreams? those are so fun. but the other night I had one where my flying was ~really~ lousy, and I woke up and thought "what was THAT?? I can do better than that!!"

another time, I was flying between universes that were represented by rooms in a building (another recurring theme) and I entered a universe where flying wasn't possible .. what's up with that, huh? so anyway, I instantly plummeted to the ground, only in this universe the ground consisted entirely of badly polluted water. so I had to ~swim~ to the other side. I'm just thankful I never have a sense of smell in my dreams.


When I fly in dreams, it's always for escaping something bad.It's always dark and scary. I'm yet to have a lucid dream and just fly for the fun of it.

Last night I became lucid in a dream and was thrilled. It's been a while. This wasn't a nightmare either, it was just a calm dream. Once I became lucid, I started thinking frantically about what I really wanted to do. Before I could decide, I woke up.

I remember saying to myself 'I have to hurry and do something fun before I wake up'. Seconds later, I could feel myself slowly waking and it distracted me too much to stay asleep. Dammit.

[JadenKorr]

Have you ever had a dream where you realized that you were dreaming, but you didn't wake up? You realized that you could bend and change your dream at will?

[Xzengrim]

I went to bed early last night, and got up several times to lock the doors, use the can, check on the house, and do other things that bother me after I go to sleep. Apparently, I fell asleep, and the next time I came upstairs, it was in a dream.

I got some OJ out of the fridge, and decided to check my Email. My brother was at the kitchen counter, and he started talking about things he had been doing that day. I read EMails and sent some out to JLR, Wraywolf, and some friends of mine. Suddenly, I realized that I was dreaming. Everything was totally real, every object completely realized in every way (and indeed, I picked some up and examined them to try to find some essential flaw in their veracity, which was absent), but I knew that this was a dream somehow.
"Hey," I said to my brother. "THis is all a dream!"
"What?"
"This.... Everything here! You're not really here, and neither am I! I'm dreaming again!"
"What makes you say that?"
I gestured to the computer: "Since when do we have a Mac?" Our usual PC had been replaced by a Macintosh. Other than that, everything was normal.
"And that!" I said, pointing to a sugarbowl, shaped like a cow, that was sitting on the counter. While such things exist and I have seen them before, we do not own one. "That sugarcow!" I said. "We don't have one of those." Everything else was normal, in it's usual spot.
"I think you're nuts," said my brother. "How do you know you're not in one of MY dreams?"
"If this is a dream..." I said, "Check out what I can do!"

I stood out of the computer chair and positioned myself in the middle of the floor. I undid my belt and the first two buttons on my shirt, and nealt down on my knees, with my hands on the tops of my thighs. I started to concentrate.
"Oh no!" yelled my brother, coming across the floor. "Don't you start in with this werewolf stuff again!!"
"rrrrrrrrr" said I. "rrrRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!" The growl kicked in in full force, now no longer merely a human facsimile. My brother grabbed my arms and shoulder and tried to pull me to my feet. I resisted, grappling with my hands locked in his. He leaned his forehead into mine and pushed against me, trying to undo my balance. I pushed back, and the Change started to come. My muscles got thicker, and the bones in my forearms and feet began to stretch. I shoved him, and he went back. He pushed his head against mine again (something we do in real life). I pushed him back, my hands becoming enormous clawed paws that swallowed up his little hands. I bared my sharpening teeth at him, and before he could draw back, my face elongated into a muzzle. Where our two heads had once been set against each other, foreheads touching with our faces pointed towards the floor, my own mouth jutted forward and snapped at his chin. He yelped and fell down. With the fur coming down my body and my posture losing the last of it's humanity, I leapt on him and pushed him down to the ground. I didn't hurt him. We were just playing.

[Wraywolf]

Grim, you are utterly insane.

...

But damn if that isn't cool!!

[Necro Mortis]

Hear hear! :D

[Fang]

This dream happened almost a full year ago, but I remember it vividly.

I was on a ranch and a man in a black cloak addressed me, "If you wish to be any animal, what would it be?"

Now, mind you, I don't know why I said what I said because it isn't my phenotype, but I said, "Horse."

With a wave of a very bony hand, the change began. I was enveloped in a void of darkness as I 'watched' myself shift. (That was in the dream; in my bed, I felt the change) When my tail exploded from my backside, I felt a sharp pain in the real world. I did not wake up during this whole experience. My skin became brown and my muscles buldged. I felt, and saw, my leg muscles become massive as my arms enlongated to help me stand. My hand became hooves, and my face enlogated and stretched.

Once the transformation was complete, I found myself in a carrousel (not the rides, but an actual one where it is a grass field encircled by a fence). People were petting me and riding me, and I was having a great time.

Then the dream took an unexpected turn, and maybe you can shed some light on this one, the cloaked figure came back and took my life, and as a horse, I slumped and fell into a roadside ditch.

The rest of the dream is a little fuzzy. I don't remember if I was revived or not, but I do remember the dream happened two nights in a row. The second time, however wasn't as long and the "scene" leading up to the transformation was shortened.

I haven't had a dream that vivid since then, but I have had many D-shifts, sometimes every night for a week (different scenario, same animal: wolf). The wolf is my actual phenotype, that's what makes this dream so weired.

As an extra note: this was my first D-Shift that I can remember.

-Fang

[Erinye]

Last night I had a particularily interesting lucid flying dream. I think I was either a raven, or a wereraven, or something, but tiger kittens were involved somehow. That's both my totem and my "power animal" and/or "weretype". I don't know if that dream was "genuine" or if it was triggered by the dream equivilent of wishful thinking, but it was a fun dream.

I got sick of civilization, so I moved out in the country with somebody (there was a bunch of stuff involved that I can't remember) and I think I mated this guy (was he a wereraven? I forget) and I think I made a nest and was going to have eggs. Except the nest was on top of this really tall, skinny, flimsy tower, so much so that it made me afraid of heights even though I could fly. I didn't mind flying, but sitting on top of that thing was scary!

Actually some of it wasn't fun. These people were trying to kill me or something (I really forgot a lot of the dream!) and I could fly through the thatched roofs of buildings but really didn't like to. Somehow I knew that my mind was causing the physical surroundings, but I didn't have full control over it and it bothered me when a roof was above me that I didn't want to be there, when I thought I was outside. For some reason flying out the windows or doors wasn't an option, I always had to exit through the roof!

This is also the first flying dream I can remember when I actually had to flap my wings, rather than just levitate.

[Wolf-Bone]

Ok so I've been trying to learn lucid dreaming for close to two weeks now, and I've gotten pretty good at remembering the dreams, and they tend to be way more vivid more frequently. But man, lately I've been seeing shit that my brain should've clued into. Like when I was starting to actually see my dreamsigns and familiar people/locations, but I just didn't say to myself "wait, I've seen this before", I was at least making progress, or so I thought. But last night I had a dream where I was talking to a friend on ICQ about going to a party later, and there was a shitload of things out of place, on a quite disturbing level:

1) I stopped using ICQ like 3 years ago

2) The guy I was talking to didn't even own a computer, as far as I know

3) He wasn't my friend. He made every effort to make himself look cool infront of his yokel friends at my expense.

4) He got killed approx. two years ago

5) The party he was talking about in the dream was the same one where he got killed

6) He talked about himself getting killed at this party in the third person, and said "He was headed down that road, one way or another", as if it was someone else he was talking about, and in the dream the party hadn't even taken place yet

If all of that wouldn't make a person be like "whoah, back the hell up", what would? Is it only certain people that can do this?

[FocusedWolf]

I had a dream last night, and it became lucid at the last minutes of my sleep. Nothing fancy except i realized that it was a dream and that sunlight was trying to wake me and i think i forced my body to move out of the light so i could continue dreaming, it was actually this interuption that set me "free" so to speak. After that, i just did some foward flipping somersaults since i couldnt really think of anything else cause my mind was partially shut down. I can't do these flips in reallife so it was the coolest thing ever...like being plugged into the matrix or something. After i did some foward flips and tumbles in the air, i decided to increase the fun i guess and do somersaults while firing a m4a1 that was conveiently hanging vertical in this cabinet in the wall opposite me...owell i woke up shortly after but it was something to be free in a dream...People that can do this continiously are partly cursed, cause they know its a dream and can't enjoy it believing its real, but also partly blessed IMO.

[Snackrib]

I have heared that you can learn to control your dreams you can do whatever you want and I was wondering if there was anyone here who can do it? If you know how to please teach me, I can't take reality anymore, it's to boring, and I get more and more angry, people are treating me like a jerk in school and stuff like that, I have to work all the time so I wanna know how to control my dreams so I can have fun and feel much better in the morning. A good escape from the real world, something beyond my wildest dreams.. wait amin...... that is my wildest dreams! :p

[LV426]

It's called Lucid Dreaming, hence why I moved your thread.

[kaycee]

I have heared that you can learn to control your dreams you can do whatever you want and I was wondering if there was anyone here who can do it? If you know how to please teach me, I can't take reality anymore, it's to boring, and I get more and more angry, people are treating me like a jerk in school and stuff like that, I have to work all the time so I wanna know how to control my dreams so I can have fun and feel much better in the morning. A good escape from the real world, something beyond my wildest dreams.. wait amin...... that is my wildest dreams! :p


www.lucidity.com

Check out this link. It explains ways to learn how to lucid dream.
Have fun :)

[Sepsis]

Do you guys also can manipulate your own dreams? When you realize that you're dreaming, are you guys waking up, or dreaming more, dreaming what you want...?

[DarkWolf]

Yeah, controlling dreams is easy. You basically do what you want and control everything. You know you are dreaming, but are still asleep. Basically you're in the subconcious state: not unconcious or concious but somewhere inbetween.

A typical method (also featured on an episode of Star Trek Voyager) is as you are going to sleep visualize a specific item or thing. Something that isn't very everyday. In the Voyager episode it was Chakotay who said this and for him he chose the image of a full moon. What this does is place the image in your subconcious so when you fall asleep and dream: your mind "regurgitates" this image into your dreams. Seeing the image in your dream would remind you you're dreaming, and wake a part of you. You will then be subconciously awake and able to control the dream.

I don't need to do this though. I control most of the dreams I remember and have done so everynight since I was about 4-5 years old. The good thing is while I have dreams I control, I also have dreams I don't control and/or don't remember. So I get all the fun and still work through issues in my head (which is what your brain does at night and partly why we have dreams).

[Obsidian Claws]

Do you experience time normally while lucid dreaming? When I dream, which is not lucid, no matter how long it seemed it always feels that it only took an instant for the dream to begin and then to end, even though there was a certain flow of events. Is time in a lucid dream the same as if you were awake?

Question looks a little fuzzy, but people who lucid dream should be able to answer.

[Erinye]

Do you experience time normally while lucid dreaming? When I dream, which is not lucid, no matter how long it seemed it always feels that it only took an instant for the dream to begin and then to end, even though there was a certain flow of events. Is time in a lucid dream the same as if you were awake?

Question looks a little fuzzy, but people who lucid dream should be able to answer.

I don't know. All I do know is they happen at the end of the night just before I wake up, which is when most lucid dreams happen, I think.

[DarkWolf]

Avoid the misconception that a "lucid dream" implies control. You can have a perfectly lucid dream but have no control at all.
which is when most lucid dreams happen, I think.Sometimes, because "controlled" dreams occur when you are halfway between waking and sleeping, this generally occurs before you wake up fully. However controlled and/or lucid dreams can happen at any time. You can even have a lucid daydream.
Do you experience time normally while lucid dreaming?Sometimes yes and sometimes no. It depends solely on the current dream. Sometimes you have long dreams but only a few minutes passed in the waking world, and sometimes it's the opposite way around, sometimes they are the same. This goes for lucid dreams, controlled dreams, and regular dreams. Time perception while dreaming varies and is unpredictable.

[Erinye]

Mm, thank you for clarifying that, Dark Wolf. can you really have a controlled but non-lucid dream? I suppose so...you would be controlling your actions, but think they are real.

I have never understood what a daydream is. I know the word is used for drifting off imaginatively, but you used it as I have heard it used occasionally, as if it is a state similar to night dreams. If this is so I have never, ever experienced it. Dreams while awake? Would it be more like hallucination? I do not understand this idea/concept, no indeed.

[DarkWolf]

A daydream works very much like a dream, and hallucinations often occur similarly or as a result of daydreams. It is a broad term from simply imagining something that you can see in your head to being almost in a trance where you are awake but no longer see the world before you and instead your attention is in a dream, much like any dream at night. Unlike a dream at night, however, a daydream is your wishful imagination only and cannot be the randomized dreams you get while your brain is working on something (most dreams at night are generally just by-products and "junk" your mind pushes aside to tidy up :)).

You can never have a day-nightmare. Nightmares are concerns or negative "junk" being brought to the surface with "belief" that the dream is real: this gives emotional attachment and is why the dream scares you. This "deep" of a dream is from the brain's usual tidying, which requires unconcious or semi-concious state, while daydreaming is wishful imagining while fully concious (you're just not paying attention, but you are awake).

As for controlled non-lucid dream: yes it can happen. Generally you can have a dream that is random and unclear as to meaning or regular logic but you still have control of your body and think, in part, that it is real.

[Martyr]

Ahh yes, the lucid dream. The very merging between your fantasy and reality. It is a very fun and exciting expieriance. Many teenagers have lucid dreams and use this to their advantage to get "close" to a certain girl. Others use lucid dreams to live out a fantasy, such as flying. Flying would happen to be one of my favorites. Some of your inner-most desires can be granted in a lucid dream. On the very nights I have this privallage I take it with honor.HAHAHA! Look at me... acting like I know what I'm talking about... :cry: I wish I did...

[Shoggoth]

"Lucid" means "aware."

Lucid dreams happen when we are near sleep, but still aware. This is why we can often control them. Ever been watching TV or reading, nod off, and have that really quick dream in which you fall down and the impact jars you awake? That is a lucid dream.
Normal dreams happen in deep sleep, when your awareness is sunken.

[Moon_shift]

is anyone able to control their own dream? i'd like to know a way. i sometimes dream and think within the dream that something might happen or it would be strange if this happened. i think once my dream changed because i thought of something that would be strange if it happened. but i have no control over speech and often times im just looking into the dream as a 3rd person. im not sure why im never usually a character within the dream. only once can i remember being someone and i was just running on all fours quickly. not sure where. i tried it when i woke up ::lol:: not such a great result

[morrigaine]

Has anyone ever had some thing happen to them were they didn't know if they were dreaming or awake. Well I have this feeling a lot whether my life is just one big nightmare. if you feel this way your not alone becouse no one is sure whether we are awake or asleep. for life is just a dream to dreamer that lives it.

morrigaine

[bad moon rising]

Has anyone ever had some thing happen to them were they didn't know if they were dreaming or awake. Well I have this feeling a lot whether my life is just one big nightmare. if you feel this way your not alone becouse no one is sure whether we are awake or asleep. for life is just a dream to dreamer that lives it.

morrigaine

I once had a dream i went out with a friend and he got shot.
It seemed so real that when i woke up i thought it had happened. :confused:

[DoubleStar3]

It's called Lucid Dreaming. Hence the merge.

[Erinye]

I woke up once in the middle of a very vivid dream, and for almost a minute I was very confused, and couldn't figure out whether I was awake or asleep. Very disorientating.

I usually just use lucid dreams for the joy of flying, but after what Darkwolf mentioned, maybe they aren't really lucid. I can control myself, but I'm not entirely aware that it is a dream.

I've never tried shapeshifting or changing the dreamscape, but that would be interesting.

[Howls-By-Day]

I have had a little bit of everything, the Lucid, the control, and the non-controlled. However, I have yet to have a Lucid dream with wolfing out.

Note to self: Must try out the hints given by DarkWolf and the lucidity website.

[Faerie_flame]

Does anybody ever realise they are dreaming?

I used to be able to do this a lot, and it was really usefull because I could just literally turn round and tell the monster to stop chasing me because he was just a pathetic, astonishingly ugly dream, and then laugh at him while he ran of crying. Now, however I never seem to know that I'm dreaming, so I just keep running.

If I did realise I was dreaming again, and turned around and asked the monster why he was chasing me, and he answered, 'because you are hiding something from yourself' or something like that, would you actually be able to have a conversation with you inner self?

I'm sorry if this makes no sense, just ramblings of a silly person :)

[Aniutuk]

I've realize when im dreaming as well, sometimes i can change my dreams to something else if i don't like it. But i don't have dreams like i used to, probably because i've gotton older. :shrug:

[EP-GingerSnaps]

It’s called lucid dreaming.

Lucid dreams occurs when you realize you are dreaming in the middle of your dream. "Wait a second. This is only a dream!" Most dreamers wake themselves up once they realize that they are only dreaming. Other dreamers have cultivated the skill to remain in the lucid state of dreaming. They become an active participant in their dream, make decisions in their dreams and influence the dream's outcome without awakening.

Check out this website for some more information on dreams :D . http://www.dreammoods.com/dreaminformation/dreamtypes/index.html

[DoubleStar3]

Thanks, EP. I knew this had a topic but couldn't quite place what it was at the time. Therefore, it is merged with Lucid Dreaming.

[Deimos Wolf]

Is there any way of encouraging lucid dreams because I have never had the pleasure of one and would like to stop with the weird ass dreams I have been having latley.


I find that going to sleep very late and then sleeping in is the best time (at least for me) for lucidity to occur... it's past REM sleep and very near to the time when I'm half-awake. Hope this helps. ;)

[Kayne]

Lucid dreams, In my experience one is often enduced after I've been angry with something or someone.
I'm not saying that it foolproof but that's my suggestion

[Graywolf]

I have dreams of the future in which my dreams become reality. That is a true lucid dream...

These dreams usually depict that something bad is going to happen. Its alot like the mothman prophecies. I dream about say my friends grandma having a heart attack. The next day I find out that when i was dreaming this, she really was having a heart attack. Or more resently, i had a dream that someone I knew was gonna have a majorly broken arm. I didnt know who or when but just last week my buddy kyle shattered his right arm due to a football game (not soccer). Unfortunately now I am stuck taking down notes in latin and American history. All I have to say is that I hope you don't end up in my dreams.
-GRAYWOLF

[Shiloh]

wow, strange, I have dreams like that sometimes, and also, alot of dreams where I wish I didn't wake up... I haven't had a wolf dream in a while, but my dreams are deranged. I think they're ultimantly suposed to make me happy though... Like when I REALLY wanted to meet this one guy, and I had a dream thay he was shooting me and my friend with an arsenal of guns he hid in a chicken coop. He held me hostage, then in the end of the dream, we started dating... --Shiloh

[Graywolf]

Ohh! The other night I actually had a good dream for once that didn't involve me being chased or shot at for being a wolf!! It first began with that dream where you fall off a cliff and wake up with that whole body twitch. Anyway, When I had gotten back to sleep, I drempt that I was hanging out with my friends at Starbucks Coffee. After a few sips of my Caramel Mocciato, i started to twitch and quiver all over. They just starred at me as I fet every bone in my body crack and break. I felt my clothes tighten on me and start to fall off. I felt the fur growing all over me. And a tail came out. My hands turned to werewolf like paws and my feet grew destroying my converse and my other clothes were destroyed also (Flogging Molly shirt and Luckey Jeans).When the pain had stopped I noticed that everyone in the coffee shop was now just in a daze looking at me. I also noticed that I had grown a few inches in the transformation. Nervous of what was to happen, I just sat down and continued to talk with my friends like there was no change. My friends just starred at me in awe. My reply was " What never seen a werewolf before?" They all said no. I replied in saying "well you have now!" And I began to clean up my clothes on the ground. I then opend the top of my coffee and lapped the rest up. Then I just smiled at my friends. That is when I woke up and I had that cramp in the leg where the calf tightens up and then flips over. After 3 minutes of screaming I finally got it to stop. I realised at that point that I couldn't move anything. My muscles hurt so much. Maybe when you experience pain in a dream, you are really feeling it in real life?

[Lycan_bites]

I was wondering if anyone could tell me if I just had a lucid dream or if it was "controlled".
I have been trying to lucid dream for a while now, I read up on it in this book I have, and apparently there is a part in the process where you feel the paralysis of dream sleep, you become concious of yourself lying on the bed but unable to move.
Like other astral travelers, lucid dreamer are often aware of both their astral and physical selves simultaneously, and a few report being aware of their paralysis.
I remember myself lying on the bed how I had fallen asleep, with the covers across my nose and my mouth, so it was quite hard to breathe. I couldn't move any of my limbs and I thought I was being possessed. I wonder if anyone could tell me if this is just reading too much about it or if I actually acheived my astral state for a while?
I then proceeded to dream, but although I could do things I usually can't (such as flying, making myself run faster from this man who was chasing me and even summoning creatures), I don't remember being aware of control over where I was or what was happening to me. A man was chasing me througout the dream, and I never made him go away.
Was I experiencing lucidity or was my dream only partially controlled? (I have never had a lucid dream before)

[Wolf-Bone]

I've never had this happen to me before, and I hope to god it never happens again. Last night I had this dream where I was in my room working on stuff on my computer, listening to Celtic relaxation CD on my headphone. Photoshop had an internal error and shut down as it does from time to time. So I look on the desktop to re-open it, and the icon for it is gone. I go down to the finder (Im on a Mac, OSX) and the icon is there, but when I click on it, the cursor disapeares. I roll the mouse around, nothing happens.

Up until now, this is a pretty mundane dream. But then the music stops, a preferences type of menu pops up that says "shutdown music: sorrowful". The sound that comes through the headphones is unbearably loud -- it's the first time I can recall actually feeling pain in a dream. I don't know how to describe the sound other than this metallic, deathly rumble. I can faintly hear the "sorrowful" music through it, along with the computer actually talking to me saying "We're sorry, but we have encountered a terminal error and must shut us down". I can't take the headphones off though my instincts tell me to, because I'm paralyzed. Whether it's because of the sound, or some kind of electric shock from the headphones, it's like I'm having some kind of seizure. I shake so violently and rapidly that the chair gently floats back.

When I woke up, for about 10 seconds I was STILL paralyzed, and STILL feeling the shock throughout my body.

I've had dreams that scared me so much I woke up in a cold sweat and heart pounding and such, but this was different. In the dream, I could feel every muscle struggling to break free of the shock, my eyes rolling back into my head. My face locked in what would probably look like a really distored grimace. And when I woke up, it was exactly the same thing. It was as if I seamlessly shifted from the dream to reality and took the dream with me into the physical world.

When I finally shook out of it, for a while after I couldn't stop tears from welling up in my eyes. Long after I got over being scared.

Is there some sort of explanation for this? Could it mean I have a problem with my central nervous system or something? I mean to me, the only thing I can hypothesize is that I must've went into the convulsion in the physical world WHILE I was dreaming, which triggered me feeling it in the dream.

[DoubleStar3]

It's called Lucid Dreaming. Hence the merge.

[Lycan_bites]

Thinking about it, I've had quite a few dreams involving paralysis that sound a lot like Wolf-Bone's. It's just your average mundane dream, I'm sitting in front of the ps2 and someone calls in to tell me to switch it off. Once I press the off button I go completley ridged, I can't move an inch, and my vision starts to fade out from the top down. I wouldn't know (duh) but if I had to describe the feeling as anything, it would be like dying. There wasn't much of a merge though, just a few seconds, and I'm not even sure if that was the terror that made me unable to move or dream paralysis.

[Rival]

lucid dreaming seam's to be something that a lot of us can do I have done a fair bit of it myself

[BONEBANE]

I attempted to have a lucid dream last night by meditating beore sleeping, and I was able to be lucid for about 5 seconds and fly, but I was excited and yelled that this dream was lucid and it woke me.

[siekcsroe]

Yes, that's one of my main problems, I realize that I'm dreaming, get excited and either wake up or drift back off into normal dreaming.
I remember this one lucid dream I had, I was following this guy around and after I woke up I wondered why I hadn't just made him stop. I guess it's because I have a one-track mind or something.

[Lycan_bites]

I read somewhere that if you are to exhilerated by your lucid experience that you wake up, you should try and re-enter the dream by taking control of your thoughts as you drift off to sleep (or something). Luckily enough for me, the one time I did lucid dream this didn't happen to me.

[Bantam]

So, if I have a dream where I am able to smell, taste, feel things ect. it is considered a lucid dream? Do you have to have your full range of senses for it to be one? I have had several dreams where I feel things, taste things ect. It's pretty crazy stuff!