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LV426
02-13-2004, 06:24 PM
Doctors, Priests Form Exorcism Commission
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ROME (Reuters) - Faced with growing demand for exorcisms, Catholic Church leaders in the Italian city of Genoa have created a taskforce of doctors and priests to determine when the devil is at work and when psychiatric help is needed.



The team of three priests, one psychiatrist, one psychologist and one neurologist -- dubbed the "anti-Satan pool" by Italian media -- will work on a case-by-case basis, a local church official said in a telephone interview on Thursday.


"They'll meet on a regular basis to determine when there has been a case of demonic possession and call for an exorcist, or problems better cared for by a psychologist," said the official, who asked not to be named.


For Catholics, exorcism is the casting out of what is believed to be an evil spirit through prayer and the laying on of hands.


One of the church's leading exorcists praised the initiative, saying medical experts are needed to rule out mental problems before spiritual work can begin.


"I never accept anyone who arrives without a medical certificate," Father Gabriele Amorth told Corriere della Sera newspaper.


The Genoa taskforce was created by Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone.


The official Catholic exorcism starts with prayers, the blessing and sprinkling of holy water, the laying of hands on the possessed, and the making of the sign of the cross.


It ends with the priest commanding the devil to leave the possessed person.


While the church does not often talk openly about exorcisms, Bertone said the need for them is there.


"It has become difficult to talk about Satan, but the signs of the devil are palpable," he told Corriere della Sera in comments published Thursday.




This is just so bizarre. I'm waiting for the Made For TV, movie.

kaycee
02-13-2004, 08:48 PM
I would love to witness an exorcism.

WolfHawk
02-14-2004, 01:43 PM
I would love to witness an exorcism.
I agree with you there Kaycee. It certainly would be an experience.

Wraywolf
02-14-2004, 02:46 PM
Why would anyone want to get rid of Satan? He's a very good conversationalist. Plus all these neato kill powers are nifty when dealing with stupid people.

LupineShaman
02-17-2004, 07:06 PM
I agree with you there Kaycee. It certainly would be an experience.
Niether one of you want to witness an exorcism. I have participated in several and they are not a fun experience. And "Satan" has nothing to do with it. There are demons though, and they do find thier ways into a persons body. Whether it is an actual exorcism or a psychiatric problem there is a very real danger in helping the person. Either way they will become violent, and there is a high degree of force used while restraining the person. It tends to be a very violent and dangerous experience for all who are involved. The person to whom the exorcism is needed usually gets hurt, sometimes very badly. And the people who do the exorcism sometimes end up dead from the experience.

kaycee
02-17-2004, 08:04 PM
Niether one of you want to witness an exorcism. I have participated in several and they are not a fun experience. And "Satan" has nothing to do with it. There are demons though, and they do find thier ways into a persons body. Whether it is an actual exorcism or a psychiatric problem there is a very real danger in helping the person. Either way they will become violent, and there is a high degree of force used while restraining the person. It tends to be a very violent and dangerous experience for all who are involved. The person to whom the exorcism is needed usually gets hurt, sometimes very badly. And the people who do the exorcism sometimes end up dead from the experience.

To be honest, even with what you've said I would still love to witness an exorcism. Given the chance I'd be there in a heartbeat. Call me a weird or whatever but this shit trips my trigger.

Care to share details about one you've witnessed?

LupineShaman
02-18-2004, 04:40 PM
Care to share details about one you've witnessed?
Not really. They only go one of two ways. Good is not very interesting to hear about. And bad involves a lot of bloodshed, broken bones, and things that I have a hard time believing actually happened. Even though it happened to me or one of the two associates I was working with at the time. I'll put it bluntly, you wouldn't believe it if I told you....

Darth Cluich
02-19-2004, 08:51 AM
Not really. They only go one of two ways. Good is not very interesting to hear about. And bad involves a lot of bloodshed, broken bones, and things that I have a hard time believing actually happened. Even though it happened to me or one of the two associates I was working with at the time. I'll put it bluntly, you wouldn't believe it if I told you....

Ooooooh...spooky, spooky, spooky! You're so mysterious, Lupine... :rolleyes:

kaycee
02-19-2004, 04:11 PM
Not really. They only go one of two ways. Good is not very interesting to hear about. And bad involves a lot of bloodshed, broken bones, and things that I have a hard time believing actually happened. Even though it happened to me or one of the two associates I was working with at the time. I'll put it bluntly, you wouldn't believe it if I told you....

If you're convincing enough, I'll believe you.

WolfHawk
02-19-2004, 05:50 PM
Not really. They only go one of two ways. Good is not very interesting to hear about. And bad involves a lot of bloodshed, broken bones, and things that I have a hard time believing actually happened. Even though it happened to me or one of the two associates I was working with at the time. I'll put it bluntly, you wouldn't believe it if I told you....


First of all, with what I know(which isn't much!) and what I've seen in my life, I doubt that anything that you tell me would surprise me that much. As for believing you, well I'm a firm believer of the supernatural, and I have a VERY open mind. Try me, you might be surprised.

Thought
02-25-2004, 01:55 PM
Ooooooh...spooky, spooky, spooky! You're so mysterious, Lupine... :rolleyes:

I'd take him more seriously. An exorcism invlovles a lot more than the article says. No amount of preperation can prepare you for the things you experience during one.

If you really want to experience one though, try to convince a Roman Catholic priest to listen to a recording of one (they are often recorded these days). I doubt they'll let you, either because that priest doesn't believe in possession (a growing problem in the Catholoc Church) or there is a policy against it. Otherwise, try reading "Hostage to the Devil" by Malachi Martin, a former exorcist (as in, he's now dead)

Don't underestimate creatures that you don't understand. They tend to be older, smarter, and more cunning than you could ever believe.