Human Emotion

[Mallekigh]

As I sit here, in my den, alone. Listening to my immortal ( yes i listen to Evanescence). Alone, that word brings so much to mind. The way my mate just broke my heart after 2 years of love. The way humans shun furs, and so called "weres". What is it in human Nature that compells them to hurt. Its what man dose best. If man sees something better, he ( or she ) drops what he has and takes after the better object of his eye. If someone, that could be the sweetest, kindest, most giving person, is different than what man excepts as normal. He pushes them away, rejects them and shuns them, to hurt alone by themselves, or find others like them selves. What is it in man that makes, the emotional and physical pain of others so enjoyable. School is nothing but a ses-pool of hate and anger. Kids shooting other kids cause theyd rather waste half their class than go back for one more day of school. Weve got to ask not whats wrong with the world here. Whats wrong with the people. Why cant we stop tormenting each other. Why cant we love each other like brothers and sisters, what is so hard about that. ::: chuckle ::: why cant we all just get along?
As i sit here and dirft off to sleep, i hope i wake to a better place, or i hope not to wake at all
Mallekigh

[Ronin]

People have to want to change. You can't force them. It's an innate decision that each person must make for themselves. You can stand on the podium and preach all day long until the sun goes supernova, but until people introspect themselves, then you're just wasting your time and breath.

Hope things go better for you since it sounds like you're going through a rough time. Just remember, "Hills and valleys, such is life."

-R

[DarkHunter]

I've been saying this for years. Humanity SUCKS!! There are too many people in the world to get along. There is not enough room for people to just chill out by themselves to the point where they will be cool with everybody else.

[Mallekigh]

in reply to what ronin said. True humans have to chnge o their own free will, and no matter how long i speak, no, it wont make them change. But it takes a person on that soap box, to point out the wrong doings of the many, to the few. And those few, tell another few, and those few another. Eventually a majority will realize, wether they grow to acept it or not. At least someone will know besides those like us who sit back and watch it all.
Dont think me speakig as if im perfect, i once was a bully and once picked on kids. But unlike alot of people, i grew up, and realized what i was doing was wrong. Now i only wish the world would grow up.
Mallekigh

[Darth Cluich]

I've been saying this for years. Humanity SUCKS!! There are too many people in the world to get along. There is not enough room for people to just chill out by themselves to the point where they will be cool with everybody else.

Perhaps we could solve this overcrowding problem. We could start by eliminating all those who say "Humanity SUCKS!"...

[WhiteCrowUK]

Why cant we love each other like brothers and sisters, what is so hard about that. ::: chuckle ::: why cant we all just get along?


I have a list of rules for life which I've picked up over the years (okay I admit I am an ex-roleplayer but they arent those kind of rules...)

57: There are 4 billion free spirited people in the world - conflict is inevitable.

Actually I think thats part of the problem ... animals, even the more social ones do have conflict and power games within their packs. And for a mammal a large pack is what, a dozen maybe two? At school or work we have to live in a social group of hundreds, thousands. The only animal you get living in groups that size is in the insect world ... and lets not forget how they treat any drone which shows signs of being a rogue ...

[HiLaCha]

Humanity does not sucks, some people sucks.

[Mallekigh]

I dunno. Maybe its just me. Or maybe the city i live in is just full of worthless people.

[DarkHunter]

Perhaps we could solve this overcrowding problem. We could start by eliminating all those who say "Humanity SUCKS!"...

You think I'm wrong? We are, for whatever reasons, the most destructive species on this planet. We not only destroy other species, we warp enviorments to fit our own comforts. NOthing wrong with comfort, but quite frankly, people are really to lazy to find a safer way for comfort. There are good people in the world, but they're not in power.

Solving the overcrowding problem would go alot faster if humanity isn't so rigged up with technology. The way of the Old Ones was better.

[WhiteCrowUK]

There are good people in the world, but they're not in power.


Rule 125 says: The primary goal of anyone in power is to stay there.

Unfortunately you dont stay in power by taking luxuries off the people who put you in power ...

[kaycee]

Mallekigh, not all men are like your ex. It's probably a good thing it ended now instead of more years into it. It would have hurt more.

Besides, how else are you going to find Mr. Right if you were with him, who obviously isn't. :)

Cheer up, move on and get happy.

[Mallekigh]

Mallekigh, not all men are like your ex. It's probably a good thing it ended now instead of more years into it. It would have hurt more.

Besides, how else are you going to find Mr. Right if you were with him, who obviously isn't. :)

Cheer up, move on and get happy.


:mad: im a guy!!! :mad:

[kaycee]

Oh, I'm sorry. Let me rephrase my reply to you then;


Mallekigh, not all women are like your ex. It's probably a good thing it ended now instead of more years into it. It would have hurt more.

Besides, how else are you going to find Mrs. Right if you were with her, who obviously isn't.

Cheer up, move on and get happy.

And just to add to my reply. If you can get over this person and find someone who is right for you, you'll have a better outlook on life. You'll look at the good things more than the bad. :)

[Mallekigh]

Its really not the fact that my mate left me. I am sad over her yes. Its 2 years wasted for someone she thought was better and now shes alone as I am. It pains me more to see her hurt and realize shes wrong. But im talking about the whole human race ( almost, some people are nice ) Is selfish and self centered. They do anything to better themselves and do anything to get something better than what theyve got. Its the way of man
Mallekigh

[cyberphreak82]

Human emotion... completely superfluous. A useless tool and hindrance that has kept us from becoming all that our potential holds for us. So far, the only good that I have ever seen come out of living as an emotional being is that we are able to experience love. That feeling, however, can be simulated in a lab. The emotion or feeling or sensation itself is nothing more than the brain's perception of a chemical reaction within the brain.

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Oh crap, sorry. Fell asleep again.

[chriz]

Rule 125 says: The primary goal of anyone in power is to stay there.

Kids should have this drilled into them every year of public school.

[Shandrel]

hmm,
Human emotion, you know it's not fair to classify it as "human" emotion on a site like this, implying that what you are talking about only happens to you........ happens here too, with the people who are/claiming ect. to be who and what they are...needless attacks, of course on a computer verbal..... people not giving a damn to find out if the typing problem might be deslexia..they don't care, they don't want to deal with it.....people who rip in to others who are asking for help..... people being so blatently a RP and then going bat sh*t when they get ripped into( i'm guilty of that myself ripping into the poor people)you try to be pleasent, for what over a year? and people are still angry over something that happened over 2 years ago.... as if we all do not grow and change day by day? yet we sit there and blame humans for everything, it's THEIR fault..... shifting blame? before you start in on other beings as a race, look inside yourself, and tell me , have everyone on this board never been a royal arse to someone? Have you ever sa there and typed somethng in a post or topic, to make someone hurt? People you trust to be there for you, leave, betray or otherwise hurt you, Believe me i know quite a bit about loosing a mate. And so since i trusted them, i made myself into a fool. and i get ragged on for it, before looking out in the world, fix your own first.how can you say you are better than them when you do the same things?
*you they, we i am talking in generals, not to or at a specific person....*

[YoungFang]

I wouldn't say human emotions were hindering us in any real way. Emotions are linked to our basic instincts and to our understanding of the world and what we like, don't like and view as morally right or wrong. Emotions have helped us to survive for millions of years, if we didn't have emotions people would be indifferent to everything, we need them otherwise why exist?

[chriz]

An emotion is just your brain doing the shorthand trick. It's like, below the surface you know something's wrong, but your brain has decided it's easier (less time and energy) to simply flag the sensation of an inconsistency or unexpected result, rather than bore you with all the details.

The upside is that you get the feeling "something's wrong" immediately and with primal urgency, and can act on it right away. The downside is that you don't have access to the actual problem itself, so you can't analyze it to see precisely where the issue is.

So if it turns out you have any faulty data bouncing around in your skull and you acquired that faulty data at a very early age, it's a major effort to hunt it down and correct it. And faulty data results in inappropriate emotions, which often result in more faulty data. By the time we're adults, we're a mess.

[WhiteCrowUK]

An emotion is just your brain doing the shorthand trick.

I love that - an analogy would be if you grabbed a burning piece of metal ...

Your high brain says "that bar is too hot, you must stop that at once until such time as it cool".

The feeling you get (not perhaps a feeling, but sensation all the same) is "OUCH!!!". And it will reach you much faster than the long winded explaination!

[DarkWolf]

By the time we're adults, we're a mess.
I'll agree to that; I have been an adult for only one year and already I have enough issues in my head to land me a decade of psychiatry. I'll save the formality of actually going, and blame my parents now. :D

[YoungFang]

I love that - an analogy would be if you grabbed a burning piece of metal ...

Your high brain says "that bar is too hot, you must stop that at once until such time as it cool".

The feeling you get (not perhaps a feeling, but sensation all the same) is "OUCH!!!". And it will reach you much faster than the long winded explaination!
Actually according to my past biology lessons that sort of feeling is just a split second reaction nerves transmit along neurones to your spinal cord but not to your brain. You can repress them if you try hard but it isn't a great thing to do.

I'll agree to that; I have been an adult for only one year and already I have enough issues in my head to land me a decade of psychiatry. I'll save the formality of actually going, and blame my parents now. :DYou'd be lucky to get any on the NHS anyway. ;)

[chriz]

Actually according to my past biology lessons that sort of feeling is just a split second reaction nerves transmit along neurones to your spinal cord but not to your brain. You can repress them if you try hard but it isn't a great thing to do.

The traditional example of dropping a hot stone before you feel the pain is only part of what I'm talking about. The weird thing is it seems to work with any kind of cognitive equation, even ones that would normally seem high-level and arbitrary.

For example, you may get the sense someone doesn't share your philosophical values through an array of subtle cues that hit you too fast to analyze, yet your "underbrain" detects them and gives you a sensation that you probably wouldn't hit it off with this person. Even if you've never bothered to think about your own "philosophy," let alone catalog it into any kind of set of values, you still adhere to some kind of internal logic (which isn't to say it necessarily jives with objective logic, but that's another issue entirely).

The mistake is in thinking the more primitive parts of the brain can only handle primitive concepts: hunger, pain, pleasure, and so forth. It can handle anything the more advanced circuitry can handle in terms of cognition and even abstraction, and it can do it very quickly. It just doesn't have very high resolution as compared to the more advanced parts of the brain. But the more advanced parts pay for that higher resolution by losing speed.

Note that I'm not saying all mental illness is just a lack of consistency between epochs of the brain brought about by inconsistent life experiences. A lot of people suffer from authentic (usually genetic) conditions that impair brain function. I'm just talking about the mechanism of "thought vs. emotion". I put that in quotes because, from what I can see, there is no actual difference between thought and emotion. An emotion is a thought that's too "blurry" to convey detail.

[YoungFang]

An emotion is a thought that's too "blurry" to convey detail.
Ooh I like that :)

[Varg]

I'm human (I think). For some reason I do not feel emotions such as compassion, bitterness, greif, sorrow, love, fear and remorse. I don't know why, it's just the way I am. Apparently, these emotions are what make people truely human. Does that mean I'm not truely human? Am I evil? I'm so confused :confused:

Not having these emotions does give me a sense of inner peace though.... :shrug:

[Shoggoth]

Varg:
I don't believe that emotion makes humans humans. It is one of the many aspects of the human animal, but what makes us human is genes. If you have human genes . . . guess what: you're human. There are plenty who will deny this. Plenty who will claim that the soul makes the human. I can't refute that; I can only say that I don't believe it.
There could be any number of reasons why you don't - or believe you don't - feel emotions. But I do not believe you are evil. Emotion is another way in which humans communicate. It's highly likely, IMO, that you do feel emotion, but that some psychological block prevents you from expressing it.

My two cents on the original post:
The way humans shun furs, and so called "weres".
Why was Christ crucified?
Because he meant to be.

What is it in human Nature that compells them to hurt
Self-preservation, opportunism. We didn't get to this height of evolution by being polite. Our world is built on the bones of the lesser. That is not to say that hurting peoples' feelings is O.K. But it happens; and you should be self-sufficient enough to deal with pain when it comes. Feel hurt, feel angry, then move on.

If man sees something better, he ( or she ) drops what he has and takes after the better object of his eye.
You mustn't pin your self-worth on someone else's actions or on someone else's opinion. You are your own responsibility.

What is it in man that makes, the emotional and physical pain of others so enjoyable.
What makes a person want to hurt another person? There are too many theories to list on this board. We're violent animals. We respect some people and we disrespect others. Sometimes we do things that are rash.

why cant we all just get along?
Is that really what you want? Stagnation?
Humans live in complex societies and sub-societies. Our relationships with one-another are dynamic. They change, sometimes violently. Because we are all individuals and we all want to establish ourselves; no one wants to be stepped on. There won't be peace. There won't be eternal unity. Because that would be the failure of civilization.

[DamienMidgard]

I am not sure if this really belongs in this thread, but..

I feel the emotion Hate is far more powerful then that of love.

It takes years of love to bloom a wounderful trusting relationship, and it only takes a few moments of hate to destroy all that you have built.

I feel (most)people suck couse they are so filled with hate and are incapable of grasping on to love for long periods of time.

[Tux]

Well I suppose it is just human nature to react to things that are diffrent or show slight signs of weakness... Same in the animal world too... Otherwise wolf packs would not have an Aplha or an Omega... Of course in the most extreme cases pack members of well any large group that show sighs of weakness will be killed... Though that's an extreme... Of course the impact would be bad for that pack so it would have to have some kind of warrent to it... However for humans we live in a pack of what over 60 billion??? We're the Alpha species of the entire world... Unlike in other animal packs though... We didn't get here by brute force... I mean let's face it we're fairly weak in terms of strength... But anyhow living in a group that large the loss of any member of the pack is of no cosequence... And I guess just basicly humans are far more rutheless in prosecuting the weak or diffrent then animals as a whole are... What can I say??? Way down deep the entire human society is really self destructive... But that's another topic... I could ramble on with this for.. Hours I'm sure... But that'd be too long... So I'll cut it here... Just put simply humans are humans... Can't change them...

[DarkWolf]

6 billion or so.

And we may be the most "dominant" but certainly not alpha. Spiders, scorpions, insects and many other species outnumber us by up to 20:1.

[Hybrid]

*sigh*

We are animals and we are selfish. All acts are selfish. The mother who runs into the burning building to save her child does so out of selfishness because she cannot imagine HER life without her child. Even if she gladly gives up her own life for her offspring, it is because it will make HER feel good in her dying moments.

The point is that selfishness is what motivates us to do anything and people will accomplish their goals with or without a sense of social responsibility. Therefore if something "bad" happens to you, well, that's life. It will never change.

[Tux]

6 billion or so.

And we may be the most "dominant" but certainly not alpha. Spiders, scorpions, insects and many other species outnumber us by up to 20:1.

Well I guess that number was a little high... Though I really wasn't talking about numbers being in the factor really... More along the lines that we're capable of making things that no other species on the planet can make... And I'd have thought the ration of human to insect would have been much higher... Damn misquitos anyhow...