What traits are important to you?

[WhiteCrowUK]

What traits both in yourself and others are important to you?

[WhiteCrowUK]

I'll start the ball rolling.

I really wish I could say love - but I really cannot.

I call the two traits I try and live by my "two pillars" - and they are ...


truth
loyalty


truth - in part its because I'm too lazy to lie or hide how I feel. I really feel that theres very little in this world which is so terrible that you cannot admit to it. If you have done wrong you can try and lie and whinge about it - but really its just easier to put your hand up, admit it, and move on.

loyalty - I guess this comes from the community my family was based in - it was a mining community, and people generally kind of stuck together (there was a terrible strike to the mining industry when I was a kid). Certainly my mother brought us up on gangland principles of loyalty to the family (I think she watched the Godfather a few too many times). Alas of late I think I have given people who didnt deserve it my loyalty, and am becoming a bit more inclined to be disloyal at the moment ... but its still something I aspire to!

[WolfHawk]

For me it would be Honor and Truth.
I'm the kind of guy who speaks his mind, so if your not prepared to hear what I think and not what you want to hear then don't ask. I have a lot of respect for people who are like me and don't screw around. The worst thing that anyone can do is lie. Have to guts to tell me to my face and no matter what it is I'd probably take it a lot lighter than if I found out some other way.
As for Honor, well I would have a hard time stabbing someone in the back simply because I've had it happen to me way too many times. I see no need to screw someone over just to get ahead. I think that it's just not worth it. That's my idea of honor anyway, if someone else has a different version then you should share it with me.

[WhiteCrowUK]

That's my idea of honor anyway, if someone else has a different version then you should share it with me.

Its a good question. For me honour means "your word is your bond", basically you dont let people down!

[WhiteCrowUK]

I found this on Bushido - the Code of Honour of the Samurai - its too good not to print ...

http://mcel.pacificu.edu/as/students/bushido/bcreed.html

I have no parents; I make the Heavens and the Earth my parents.
I have no home; I make the Tan T'ien my home.
I have no divine power; I make honesty my Divine Power.
I have no means; I make Docility my means.
I have no magic power; I make personality my Magic Power.
I have neither life nor death; I make A Um my Life and Death.


I have no body; I make Stoicism my Body.
I have no eyes; I make The Flash of Lightning my eyes.
I have no ears; I make Sensibility my Ears.
I have no limbs; I make Promptitude my Limbs.
I have no laws; I make Self-Protection my Laws.


I have no strategy; I make the Right to Kill and the Right to Restore Life my Strategy.
I have no designs; I make Seizing the Opportunity by the Forelock my Designs.
I have no miracles; I make Righteous Laws my Miracle.
I have no principles; I make Adaptability to all circumstances my Principle.
I have no tactics; I make Emptiness and Fullness my Tactics.


I have no talent; I make Ready Wit my Talent.
I have no friends; I make my Mind my Friend.
I have no enemy; I make Incautiousness my Enemy.
I have no armour; I make Benevolence my Armour.
I have no castle; I make Immovable Mind my Castle.
I have no sword; I make No Mind my Sword.

[WolfHawk]

Its a good question. For me honour means "your word is your bond", basically you dont let people down!

That's pretty much what I was getting at. I guess I just took it one step farther and said that you should never back-stab someone for personal gains.

[LV426]

Intelligence

[moonspirit]

a sense of humor :D

[WhiteCrowUK]

Intelligence

D'oh I missed that one - although I kind of (if you squint) have it covered with "wise" ...

[Klark]

Mostly Truth and Love and Sense of Humor....however, I'm needy, I like 'em all. :D

[The God of the Blade]

Love, truth, justice, wisdom, hope. And humour

[phantomroller]

one trait that's important to me that wasn't mentioned was honesty. I have to say that out of everything that is the most important thing in a person. the ability to trust them.

[WhiteCrowUK]

one trait that's important to me that wasn't mentioned was honesty. I have to say that out of everything that is the most important thing in a person. the ability to trust them.

To me truth and honesty are pretty much the same - though I accept there might be a bit of a difference in them according to others perception.

[DarkWolf]

"Hope".

It kept me alive.

[Nightmare GenoReaper]

DAMMIT! U LISTED THEM ALL :D Those are all the traits i long to have
Also, peace at mind and soul and body. I have along ways to go -_-

[Nightwolf902]

undefinedDAMMIT! U LISTED THEM ALL :D Those are all the traits i long to have
Also, peace at mind and soul and body. I have along ways to go -_-
Firstly All the Listed Are Of Import. And I agrree With Nightmare GenoReaper We need them all. ;) But I feel Loyalityis paramount as it Leads to others. Now As to Primacy mmmmmlove leadsto compassion..... and so forth with Loyality :p Nightwolf902

[Rlib]

Loyalty leads to all others? How? I think you could argue that with a few of them. Take wisdom, for example. If you are truly wise you would know that the others are important and follow them. Hey, King Soloman asked for wisdom and that turned out to be the right choice didn't it?

[DeadDoll]

I knew a girl named hope once... she screwed me over. :mad:
But I'd have to go with:
1.) Patience- because I lack it.
2.) Intelligence- stupid people really bother me.
3.) Love- I found it, now I'm making sure I don't screw it up

[GhostBat]

The two most important for me are someone who has character and integrity.

Character: qualities that make somebody or something interesting or attractive

Integrity: the quality of being honest and morally upright.

Those two sum up a large majority of what's needed in anyone.

[DarkShadow13X]

humor and witty comebacks.

[WhiteCrowUK]

2.) Intelligence- stupid people really bother me.


Thankfully the truely great usually have understanding as a trait as well, else Einstein and Hawking would have pulled their tongue out at us all (okay Einstein did) and called us a load of morons.

Likewise most peoples teachers would have given up on them.

[Russian|D]

First of all, I need a safe enviroment in which I can act. Then I can experience love or sense of humour. (For example there was a time some drunk guy was screaming around and thinking he was a ninja... I was with my girlfriend, whom I love very much, but this guy turned me into an animal, making me growl at her to keep quiet and leave me alone, so that I could observe him better and be prepared for whatever he would do next...) Plus, defending a teritory, protecting somebody can unearth honor, courage, pride and such...

[Kalira]

Loyalty, there is nothing more important than being loyal to, yourself,and those important to you.

Also truth, there is nothing I hate more than someone who lies to me. I am a pretty resonable person if you tell me the truth. Lie to me and you will find out how angry I really get.

[The Question]

Love

Love will compel a person to convey all of the other "traits" that you listed.

[Necro Mortis]

Honesty, Loyalty, strength of character and love, although the last one can be a tricky bugger

[Obsidian Claws]

All depends on the situation. If I am trying to lift a heavy object, then I would be valuing my strength. If I was playing a game of chess, then I would be valuing my intelligence.

[ae-Atrocious]

Sense of humor, all these characteristics are going to fail more than a few times...might as well be able to humor yourself over it.

[Necro Mortis]

All depends on the situation. If I am trying to lift a heavy object, then I would be valuing my strength. If I was playing a game of chess, then I would be valuing my intelligence.
I think you are missing the point slightly but I know what you mean.

[Maltaltin]

I think I would have to go with strength and intellegence




It Is Always Darkest Just Before Dawn

[Drifter Islandhound]

Some aspect of Each are necessary and that no BS! one sided people tend to act for the wrong reasons and just plain aint balanced! I mean imagine respecting someone with strength for example and finding out they lack the intelligence to use it! Pretty deep scenario I'd say! O course the "power houses" should be given there due too. You just gotta look at all sides. Picking One of em just wont give a clear picture!

[Rlib]

Thankfully the truely great usually have understanding as a trait as well, else Einstein and Hawking would have pulled their tongue out at us all (okay Einstein did) and called us a load of morons.

Isn't that because Einstein discovered what he did mostly because he dared to wonder that the existing experts might be wrong? If so couldn't you say he pulled his tongue on the whole stale scientific community...

Back to the original topic, I still say there are many traits which can be said to lead to all other traits. Eg, if you have wisdom, you will have the wisdom to seek other important traits. If you have love, maybe your love of wisdom will lead you to that...

Ok, I'm just getting cheesy and incoherent here. Will leave off posting now ;)

[silenceowl]

Loyalty without a doubt, Anything can be done if you are simply loyal to all you feel deserve it.

[TalaTsume]

honour, because it encompasses all the other options

[blueeyes]

I don't see many people with honor having to have a sense of humour. meh.
Compassion can move mountains, however. Wisdom and strength are useful too.

Give me the compassion to help others, the strength to walk away when one can't help, and the Wisdom to tell the two apart.

[Shoggoth]

All these traits are important to me. I assume you mean to ask which of those traits is it most important that I, myself, have. I would also like to have humility, determination, and peace.
But, of the list, wisdom and strength (of character, of mind) are the most important to me.

[Blazer]

Good listener.

Can learn wisdom from the wise; love and compassion from the poets; truth and justice by balancing two arguments; strength and hope from others words... etc.

Of course you also need intellegence to work out these things.

[Louve]

Love, loyalty and honesty

[Moon_shift]

loyalty, forgiveness, being like me or understanding what i am, of course im only 15 so i cant reallt decide what i want in someone when my opinions change so frequantly.... someone whos fun to fight with though. not just through voice but accual physical fighting. keeps the blood flowing and its fun if the fight is meant to be fun

[AkiahWolf]

Personally I think love is an important trait. Also, other important traits are loyalty and truth. I think most of the choices are important but I feel these are the most important to me.

[Darth Cluich]

Everyone's come up with some good traits here. I wonder, though, how having a nice ass has been left out... :p

[Moon_shift]

Everyone's come up with some good traits here. I wonder, though, how having a nice ass has been left out... :p
lol um i wouldnt know im not old enough to really care

[DarkWolf]

Please keep on topic...

[GoldShadowHunt]

I chose loyalty, though doing so could make me a hypocrite. Here's why: Loyalty, to me, is what you give first and last. Loyalty takes longer to earn and is even more easily lost than either trust or love. Someone is loyal to me and I to them long before I'll trust or love them. Why? Because loyalty denotes that you would do something to help or protect them.
However, when someone proves that they are no longer loyal to you by doing any number of things (most commonly stabbing you in the back) then any tie of loyalty must immediately be severed if simply to save yourself further heartache.
Yeah, I know my viewpoint there is a little drastic, but it's what I've developed in order to stay sane.

[WhiteCrowUK]

I chose loyalty, though doing so could make me a hypocrite.

Well thats alright, we are all complex beings driven by a multitude of desires, we all can be hypocrites at times ...

However, when someone proves that they are no longer loyal to you by doing any number of things (most commonly stabbing you in the back) then any tie of loyalty must immediately be severed if simply to save yourself further heartache.

Now I know I started this whole topic, and I started by saying that loyalty was the most important thing to me.

But having said that, I've had about 2 months to think about this - and it has to be said, that within ourselves a certain ammount of forgiveness is required both for ourselves and our friends.

For ourselves because whatever code of ethics we try to live by we will fail at some point to live by them. We're only human. So when we fail do we rip up our ethics, ignore the problem or try again?

If we ourselves cannot live to our own ethics, what chance do others have, and arent they also deserving of a little forgiveness?

The most loyal of people can have a bad day and be generally peeved by us. Does one disloyal act wipe out a friendship previously built on loyalty? Yes it must change it, but if we're all honest and open with that person isnt it possible to move beyond it?

Anyway, GoldShadow, I'm not picking on you at all. Your post has made me really think myself - now I have to apply my own reply to my life - lol! :D

[Defender]

Justice, loayalty, strength, wisdom, a sense of humour, honor and protectivity are most important to me.

[MexicanJewLizard]

Truth. Could you live with someone who lied constantly? I know I couldn't. Loyalty is my second choice, though.

[GoldShadowHunt]

No, you weren't picking on me, I know. Worry not.

And I don't think that the minute someone does something disloyal that you should disown them. Within most friendships, the offending party simply has a probation period for lack of a better term. The reason I'm in favor of severing ties is that you can only give someone some many chances to be a better friend, and someone can only give so many chances to you.

I've learned that you must never ever waste that chance.

[Klark]

No, you weren't picking on me, I know. Worry not.

And I don't think that the minute someone does something disloyal that you should disown them. Within most friendships, the offending party simply has a probation period for lack of a better term. The reason I'm in favor of severing ties is that you can only give someone some many chances to be a better friend, and someone can only give so many chances to you.

I've learned that you must never ever waste that chance.

But mistakes can be made...on both sides. I think that loyalty includes forgiveness. If everyone was a perfect friend, there would be no soap operas.

[Okami Ryu Kurai]

I say intellect. Mostly because thinking about things has made me a lot better.

[War Wolf]

It's one and at the same time a sad and good thing that everything I would like to say has already been said. Sad cause it takes away from my post being unique, but good because it points to the good side of humanity and shows that pessimists are sad and probably inaccurate little people.

And to add my two cents worth, I agree with GoldShadowHunt. I have had people that I loved and trusted walk over me time and again. I finally got tired of it and gave up on them. If they manage to come around and prove that they are capable of being good people, I'll trust them, but earning my trust after being betrayed ain't easy. I tend to keep a grudge. I've seen friends and family get trampled and start looking like spanials that have been kicked by their family. All because the ones that were taking advantage of them were family. Family are the people you love, not the people you are related to.

Sorry, just had to get that off my chest. Now then, The virtues that I hold to are:

Freedom: Because someone without Freedom is already dead, they just don't know it yet.

Liberty: Personal Liberty is as important as Freedom.

Justice: If evil isn't punished and prevented from causing further pain, then we lose Freedom and Liberty, and our right to them.

Hope: It is essential to life, as much so as breathing. With this, you can look forward to tomorrow without fear or dread. Without Hope, you might as well be dead.(Pardon the rhyme)

Truth: Nobody will trust or care about a liar, and with good reason! It is true that the truth will set you Free.

Honor: The force that causes one to act with Integrity. Important to the care and keeping of one's soul. If you know you have acted honorably in your life, you can die contented.

Protective: If you will not defend your Freedom, your
Liberty, or uphold Justice, than you don't deserve them. If you cannot, then don't get in the way of those that will.

Loyalty: Truth and Honor are tied up with this one. If you are loyal to your friend and/or family, even if they do not return this courtesy, then you have acted rightly and are without blame and have no cause for remorse.

Compassion: The principal of acting with Love and Caring toward your fellow person, be they a different color, race, or species. Attempting to aleviate pain and suffering. What more needs to be said? Although this can be put aside when dealing with evil and degenerate people. They have lost their right to compassion.

Strength: With inner Strength you can protect those you love with all you have, stand tall in the face of adversity, and bring out other virtues from within yourself such as Courage, Honor, and Bravery. Plus you can suppliment your outer strength with it. I refer to inner and outer strength because inner strength can be just as easily seen and felt as physical strength.

Wisdom: Wisdom allows you to find the path in the dark and murky in life. Lets you think through a problem to find the best course. With wisdom your can find you strengths and find and acknowledge your weaknesses. Once you've done that, you can fix em'.

Sense of Humor: Sometimes in life, if you don't laugh, you cry. Humor will allow you to get a different perspective on life other then the one you've been given. Wisdom can be tied into to this as well.

Anyway that's what I believe and where I stand. If you don't like it, tough. I'm not changing. Thanks for listening. :cool:

[Darth Cluich]

And a nice ass! Don't forget a nice ass!

[Sable]

truth

To me it's a form of purity that comes after you have lost most of the innocence and naiveté of childhood.
I believe that it is entitled to every living thing.
I do lie, but not often anymore. I like to hear the truth regardless of how much it will hurt. One lie leads to another, then another, usually more complex than the last. More people become involved. Until one day, when your forced to tell the truth, for one reason or another, it hurts everyone the more when it all comes tumbling down.
Wanting to know the truth of something is almost an addiction to me.

[midnightbear]

I feel that loyalty is most important. I believe that if that can be achieved all the others will fall into their perspective places.

[wendigo]

Strength wimps annoy me.

Loyalty no one likes a back-stabber.

Hope saved my worthless ass plenty of times.

And Pride

[RQ]

How interesting that it seems loyalty is more valuable than truth.

It can only be presumed, then, that the voting populace prefer faithful liars? What do you all think?

[adom]

How interesting that it seems loyalty is more valuable than truth.

It can only be presumed, then, that the voting populace prefer faithful liars? What do you all think?
If you're loyal than you probably aren't lying about anything important. Maybe he says her ass doesn't look fat in that dress and she says the hair on his back doesn't bother her, but neither of them is screwing around on the side. Of course who would want her fat ass or his hairy back anyway?

[Grindylow]

Loyalty.

[Teej]

For me it's honor. I need to be able to say I did the right thing.

If we are talking about a significant other, I'd have to say loyalty, love, and sense of humor. That gives you a nice blend for a wife and let's be honest, most marriages these days are lacking one or more of these.

[Edwardo_son_of_haqim]

Justice for as Socrates once said "The just are wise and good" so this virtue includes truth, loyalty, compassion, wisdom and honour.(Also I'm a Libra :cool: )

[naru]

for me it has always been compassion,justice and wisdom. a person should always be fair openminded and do more than just know something apply it to something just because your smart it doesent make you wise

loyaltys can be twisted

the truth is the sharpest of blades and must be handled with care

reckless stregnth is well just that

and im sure noone wants to here me ramble about everything on the damn list so ill leave it at that

best wishes to all

[Katsumi Sagara]

Loyalty is most important for me. Betrayl I could never forgive and I guess it kind of goes along with truth as well. Justice also is a high point for me.

[Faerie_flame]

Hey, all the people who chose 'wise' must really hate me :D

I voted for hope, but now I've thought about it, I should have chosen loyalty. I have some really loyal friends, and friends are the most important thing in the world to me :o

[Fenris]

Awh! I always fall for the hopelessly terrible one.

[War Wolf]

Love: It is the most oft written subject in song and story. Powerful, strong, honest, genuine, True Love from someone else will keep anyone and anything standing tall, strong, and proud. True Love will last as long as eternity itself! It binds peoples together. It is the basis for peace and harmony; when you Love someone and they love you, no matter what circumstances, both of you give each other the strength to change and evolve further than you could’ve on your own! Whether you are with them or away from them you are still together for always and forever! When you have Love, you have Hope, Strength, and Compassion! Yes, Love! It cannot be taken or held ransom, only given freely and of your own will! When you give love to someone, you give that being Trust, Loyalty, Strength, and Hope! When that happens they provide you with these things in turn! Let none cheapen or exploit Love for it is as important, if not more so, than any and all things in this reality! Those who would destroy Love or attempt to use it for personal gain sacrifice their right to Compassion, Loyalty and, especially, to Trust!

I apologize for not entering this sooner, I was so caught up in my earlier words that I didn't immediatly notice that I had neglected it. :D

[DL Lycan]

2 for me

Honour & one not in the poll= Discipline
If you live by these you will live a good life
(sometimes being honest isnt the best thing to do)

[perpetual sorrow]

I'd go for
truth and loyalty

[DarkWolf]

Just a reminder: The polls are for the voting and the replying is for the reason why.

[Khrystof]

Honour can cover may of those traits.

[Demon Lord Jubei]

Truth is by far the most important trait to me. Not the best for keeping friends though, although hopefully just in the short run...

[chriz]

Truth. Only the weak lie.

[hollowoaketernal]

I think honor is most important, a lot of folk are saying loyalty but there is no honor in screwing someone over, nor in being dishonest, breaking the law{execpt to star a revoltion}or ruseing someone in need when it in your power to help. An honorable man would never abuse his strength nor wisdom. Ya know ranting is fun.

[Whitepaw]

protection and a sense of humor, I'm a big kluts and I have alot of exes so ireally need that extra bit of protection, that and I think its sexhy when someone is really protective of me. and obvoulsy a sense of humor, I dates a guy without one, it got me in a lot of trouble.

[Lemieux Dashing]

I think loyalty is very important. Perhaps more important than Love.
I think that you should stand by the people who have no one to be loyal to them, even if you don't particualy care for that person.
Is that a strange way of thinking? I've always thought that it should be the other way around, but unless I tell myself something fifteen times a day, I can't convince myself. Quite frankly I don't have the patience to change this line of thinking:
It's strange, but It's comfortable :p .

-Dashing

[Kayne]

All traits have their benefits and flaws regardless how they are praised.
Honesty is my way if someone is willing to lie to you I see that as a weakness and as an insult.

[voldraj]

I would have to say love because everything else listed there falls into place when you love someone, either as a friend or as more...at least, they should