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Sorrowsong
04-04-2004, 02:58 PM
(Unsure where to put this.)

Something occurred to me a few seconds ago after I was thinking about this. I realize this topic has been chewed up to death and I've seen every single argument out there. But I'm not here to ask whether you think it's good or bad. Because either way, it will be legalized eventually and there's nothing anyone can do about it, that's just the truth.

But I want to know what you think people will do when it's legalized. Considering the pattern Americans have done to each other, it comes to absolutely no surprise to me if a group of men go out and begin raping lesbians who got married. Why? Because of the high bigotry. That's just one thought I had, and we might want to prepare for the worst once it's legal.

The gay couples will be happier, that's guaranteed. However, the Christian extremists won't, and they will not hesitate to hurt as many as people they can until they get their way, or "God's way" as they would probably say it. Maybe I'm just being pessimistic. But what do you think?

MorganaFang
04-04-2004, 03:31 PM
This reminds me of one girl’s defense against homosexual marriage; she said that “Marriage is a delicate issue” which was to say gay and lesbian couples would not take marriage seriously and would just get married “willy nilly”.
That’s complete bullshit, because being homosexual and in a homosexual relationship in the first place is hard enough. Several people I know and even I have had to keep very secretive on the issue or get out brains bashed or... Like you suggested with Lesbian couples, get raped. I have my issues when it comes to being bi but that isn’t the topic, I’ll save it for later. It just bugs me on how someone can assume that a gay couple would not be considerate when they get married. Many homosexual couples wouldn’t even consider marriage because it leaves them open as a target. But it serves a good purpose, financially and for adopting children for that couple.
All the reasons against gay marriage I have seen are ridiculous.

GoldShadowHunt
04-05-2004, 08:36 PM
Now, you realize that as soon as gay marriage is legalized, there will be bill after bill after bill to make it illegal again. I think someone will try to make it illegal for gay/lesbian couples to adopt.
I think that the rape thing is entirely possible, and that's a scary thought.
Someone may resort to postage bombs, or bombing/ setting fire to churches that agree to perfom homosexual marriages.
Kidnapping, rape, murder... you know, they'll do all the typical, horrendous things that people do simply because their target is a homosexual.
Personally, I think there are more important issues to waste our time on rather than the fact that Bob and Joe want to get married and raise a family.

LV426
04-05-2004, 09:40 PM
Now, you realize that as soon as gay marriage is legalized, there will be bill after bill after bill to make it illegal again. I think someone will try to make it illegal for gay/lesbian couples to adopt.
I think that the rape thing is entirely possible, and that's a scary thought.
Someone may resort to postage bombs, or bombing/ setting fire to churches that agree to perfom homosexual marriages.
Kidnapping, rape, murder... you know, they'll do all the typical, horrendous things that people do simply because their target is a homosexual.
Personally, I think there are more important issues to waste our time on rather than the fact that Bob and Joe want to get married and raise a family.
It's illegal in Florida for gay people to adopt children.

Béni_Etre
04-05-2004, 11:16 PM
No matter what you talk about, wether it be gay marriage or favorite bubble gum flavor, there will always be sides.

When it's legalized we all new that groups like the KKK are going to surface and cause chaos for those looking to get married. Its all a racist act against being in love and I don't understand that.

The having children thing I can possibly understand. I mean yes wether male female or space alien if they are a good family then they should be able to have children. But if you give a child to an animal just because they are good parents doesn't mean its a good idea. The child will grow to be and act no different from what it saw...or animal behavior if that makes sense. So I suppose if we gave a child to a gay couple despite D.N.A (which in some cases plays a major role in deciding wether you will be gay or straight) the child would most likely will end up gay because thats what it grew up and was raised around. I could be wrong but that's how I see it.

Xzengrim
04-05-2004, 11:25 PM
I'm going to be mature here and tell you what would really happen. I'd like to play the responsible person and be an idealist, but...

If some gay couple got married and moved next door to me, I just couldn't take that. I would just flip out. It would make me SO stressed out. I'd have ulcers in a matter of days.

I think that gay marriage trivializes marriage and religion, and is corrosive to society and morals and law. I don't have nice sturdy facts to support that opinion, it's more of a cultural manifest destiny theory. This is our country and our culture, and we're supposed to take care of it, and if we don't think gay marriage is a good idea, we shouldn't be forced to do it merely because it doesn't hurt people. Lot's of things don't hurt people, and just because a small minority want to do them, that doesn't make any of those things a good idea. And I'm tired of being called a bigot and a fascist and a hatemonger... I don't condone homosexuality, and that's my own opinion, and it's just as American as any of yours. These people make it sound like if I don't want to go to a gay wedding, I DO want to shove everyone there into an oven.

Like I said, I'd like to say that I'd be progressive and cool. But I really wouldn't. I just couldn't take that.

Klark
04-06-2004, 12:06 AM
the child would most likely will end up gay because thats what it grew up and was raised around. I could be wrong but that's how I see it.


If this is true....then where did the first gay people come from in the first place? And also, where did they come from now, since I know a great majority of them are raised by straight parents.....

DeadDoll
04-13-2004, 01:16 AM
The thing I never got about this whole bullshit argument about whether gays should be allowed to marry or not was that one of the main points as to why not was "We're trying to protect the sanctity of marriage." My ass! People desecrated it Everyday... Strait people. Adultery, 1 day marriages, cover up marriages. Stand up job protecting it!! :rolleyes:
People say that we are so accepting and free now and days. That's total crap. Things are just out there more, there's more close minded judgmental people than ever, That's sickening...
Sorry, I'm just disgusted by it.

Sepsis
04-13-2004, 01:30 AM
Well, in my country it's still illegal, but soon it will change.
I am happy that love will be everywhere, I am happy that gays will be everywhwere and I am happy because Christians and gammers will be mad... bwahahahaa

YoungFang
04-13-2004, 04:29 AM
My views (http://www.werewolf.com/vb/showthread.php?p=414 61#post41461)

LV426
04-13-2004, 05:26 AM
The concept of marriage being religious was not born until religions became known. Before that men and women pair bonded, choosing to live together for the sake of children or to express their love for each other in the community that they lived in. There was no religious deity standing watch over who married and who didn't but it was accepted by the people that they lived with, by their families, their friends, and their neighbors. They stood before all and declared their intentions to one another and to others so there was no doubt where their feelings lie. It was recognized by their society that they were together, sharing hearth and home.

Why should we deny people that right just because of religious views? Marriage is not religious although many people would like to believe so.



Now then, Beni, I would like to contest your view that gay parents make gay children. You see I have 2 siblings, and they are straight, and me, I am straight, but you know, my dad is gay. I was never influenced by him to become gay. I chose my own path just as he chose his. People are not made gay. You either are or you aren't. Now sometimes people, especially younger people have confusion in trying to decide what their sexuality is, and they walk a line, first on one side, and then on the other, trying to find who they are, but it isn't their parents that make people gay, it is what they feel makes them happy. As I see it everyone was born with the right to be happy, and as long as no one and no thing is harmed, why does it matter who they are married to.

Sepsis
04-13-2004, 05:47 AM
Most of my friends are gay. I like them, they are "nicer" than normal guys. They say people don't like them. Well, it seems that all gay-about-stuff became commercial and that's why people are so selfish.

Darth Cluich
04-13-2004, 02:29 PM
I haven't the foggiest what the hell Sepsis was trying to say, but...

Actually, even though marriages may have had religious ceremonies built up around them, the original reason for marriage was a legal one, used to determine responsibility ofr children, inheritance, and other legal issues. Religion was windowdressing really. Indeed, love often had nothing to do with it either, as many marriages were arranged (and still are in some parts of the world) for the benefit of the families of those involved.

Sepsis
04-13-2004, 02:44 PM
I haven't the foggiest what the hell Sepsis was trying to say, but...


I haven't too :D

Béni_Etre
04-13-2004, 04:36 PM
gay-about-stuff? Ok.

I'm all for gay marriages! Thats the end of it.

I do think being gay can be bother monkey see monkey do and genetics. I actually think most of it is genetics.

Eldrakyn
04-13-2004, 08:32 PM
I do think being gay can be bother monkey see monkey do and genetics.

... As they say, When in Rome...

blueeyes
04-13-2004, 09:02 PM
I'd like to think that apathy would rule and everyone would go on thinking that it's all normal within a few weeks. Unfortunatly, by the end of a month, some freak who thinks he gives a damn would end up fighting it in court or on the streets or in some even less legitimate way. Then we have to deal with another highly polarized political deal that doesn't really affect any of the people making the decision, a bunch of people who think what the media tells them, a few hundred front page answers and a hundred million dollars or two, and there's still a whole lot of hate, more so that in the first place. But that's just one opinion.

Béni_Etre
04-13-2004, 09:46 PM
...do like the romans! WINE WINE WINE!!!

GoldShadowHunt
04-17-2004, 11:32 PM
The child will grow to be and act no different from what it saw...

I can argue that on the basis of person to person experience.
(And I'd like to point out that I am not trying to flame you. I try not to be bitchy on a daily basis.)

My best friend was a maniac for guys our age. She changed boyfriends more often than other people we knew would change their underwear. She became a mother at the age of 16. She has a beautiful son. However, the father of her wonderful little boy turned out to be the largest flaming asshole I have ever seen.
She is now very happily involved with a woman. Mind you, both of her parents are heterosexual and no one else in the family is bi/homosexual.

Her sister, a year her junior, is dating a guy who was raised by his mother and her lesbian lover. These two have been together for almost 20 years. He is, pardon the expression, "straighter than an arrow."

Now, I'm not sure whether sexually is genetic, or learned, or what have you, but not allowing them to adopt seems absolutely ludicris to me.

Akonite
04-18-2004, 07:35 PM
I see no problem with it. However, i live in mississippi, here interacial marrigaes are still a touchy subject. I was disipointed when my nieghborhood chased out an interacial couple and their children. it was even believed that a racist group burned down my old home because we lived next door to the family and they confused our home for theirs....the arson investigator said that it was an unexplained fire but rumours spread in this small town and violence is everywhere. I know for a fact that those that attempt to marry in Mississippi will be harrasses and that hate crimes will spread.

Sorrowsong
04-18-2004, 11:22 PM
The whole thought has really frightened me enough to get the hell out of America, take my girlfriend, and move to Canada where it's hopefully safer. :(

ThrasherCub
04-22-2004, 12:39 AM
Hey, um, isn't there some thingy that says that we're all equal here and that we have the right to the persuit of happyness?

I love this. We haven't progressed at ALL in hundreds of years.

Look at it through history!
First it was "we're all equal, as long as we're all following Christ!"
then it was "we're all equal, as long as you're white"
It then evloved into "we're all equal, as long as we're all men"

It has now officialy become "we're all equal, as long as wer're all straight"

There are no exceptions to all! All is All! Encompasing everyone!

And if you wish to use the Christian reasoning why gays are bad, are you aware that the rule against gays is in the section where every other rule has been disgarded? Unless you want to be a hypocrite, if you're agaisnt gays for biblical reasons then you should also be against hair cuts (yes, there's a biblical rule against cutting your hair or trimming/shaving your beard). So rather than get your balls in a twist over gays, I suggest you start a protest outside your local barbershop.