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LycanSpectre
04-08-2004, 05:37 PM
This is a test which will ask you questions about your beliefs about "God". It will identify any fallacies or contradictions in your beliefs. The goal is to get through the 17 questions without any "damage", meaning any inconsistencies. A "direct hit" means something is blatantly wrong, and "biting a bullet" means something is questionable.

Enjoy, and read carefuly!

Are your beliefs logical? (http://www.philosophers.co. uk/games/god.htm)

The link to start the game is at the bottom of the page.

I bit one bullet, and got the medal of distinction. :D

SinacSupul
04-08-2004, 06:14 PM
This is a test which will ask you questions about your beliefs about "God". It will identify any fallacies or contradictions in your beliefs. The goal is to get through the 17 questions without any "damage", meaning any inconsistencies. A "direct hit" means something is blatantly wrong, and "biting a bullet" means something is questionable.

Enjoy, and read carefuly!

Are your beliefs logical? (http://www.philosophers.co. uk/games/god.htm)

The link to start the game is at the bottom of the page.

I bit one bullet, and got the medal of distinction. :D

I did the same! The one about the murderer guy made me bite the bullet cause I said that it was believable that God could ask you to do the terrible. Ne ways the test is only for logical people and religion is not logical because it requires faith.

LycanSpectre
04-08-2004, 06:34 PM
I did the same! The one about the murderer guy made me bite the bullet cause I said that it was believable that God could ask you to do the terrible. Ne ways the test is only for logical people and religion is not logical because it requires faith.

But is it logical to have faith in something that cannot withstand logic?

Aquilan
04-08-2004, 07:21 PM
You have been awarded the TPM service medal! This is our third highest award for outstanding service on the intellectual battleground.

The fact that you progressed through this activity without suffering many hits and biting no bullets suggests that whilst there are inconsistencies in your beliefs about God, on the whole they are well thought-out.

The direct hits you suffered occurred because some of your answers implied logical contradictions. At the bottom of this page, we have reproduced the analyses of your direct hits. You would have bitten bullets had you responded in ways that required that you held views that most people would have found strange, incredible or unpalatable. However, this did not occur, and consequently, you qualify for our third highest award. Well done!


And no, it isn't logical, it's faith.

GhostBat
04-08-2004, 07:42 PM
I don't need a game to tell me whether my thoughts about God are logical or illogical. I know damn well they're logical, period.

J.L.R.
04-08-2004, 09:35 PM
Of course the funny thing is, is the fact that the people who put this out are Humanists, of which is a religion of its own.

Of course the problem with logical reasoning God is the fact that our logic is limited, to what we know and understand, and if we are unable to understand God, then how could we possibly logically explain Him?

We are only beginning to understand this universe, and the far more we study, the far more complex it becomes.

So I say, by who's logic do they mean? If it is their logic, in 5 years or less, their logic may be illogical. So how can we honestly trust them.

Everybody has faith, and faith is logical.
It is present when you take a seat, turn on your car, turn on your computer, use your phone. There are a number of things you do everyday, with out even thinking about it, because you have faith they are going to work and do their job, and that faith lasts until, they break and fail. This isn't a blind faith, because you know and trust they are going to preform the tasks they are meant to.

The same comes with God. The Bible reveals the character of God and the character of man. God made several promises through out the texts of His word. Those promises were for those who believe and obey him, and for those who don't. aka The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life.
God said, if you believe in me, I will take care of you. So if I believe in God, and he takes care of me, and continually takes care of me, I think I can put my trust in Him.

MorganaFang
04-08-2004, 09:41 PM
Of course the funny thing is, is the fact that the people who put this out are Humanists, of which is a religion of its own.

Of course the problem with logical reasoning God is the fact that our logic is limited, to what we know and understand, and if we are unable to understand God, then how could we possibly logically explain Him?

We are only beginning to understand this universe, and the far more we study, the far more complex it becomes.

So I say, by who's logic do they mean? If it is their logic, in 5 years or less, their logic may be illogical. So how can we honestly trust them.

Everybody has faith, and faith is logical.
It is present when you take a seat, turn on your car, turn on your computer, use your phone. There are a number of things you do everyday, with out even thinking about it, because you have faith they are going to work and do their job, and that faith lasts until, they break and fail. This isn't a blind faith, because you know and trust they are going to preform the tasks they are meant to.

The same comes with God. The Bible reveals the character of God and the character of man. God made several promises through out the texts of His word. Those promises were for those who believe and obey him, and for those who don't. aka The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life.
God said, if you believe in me, I will take care of you. So if I believe in God, and he takes care of me, and continually takes care of me, I think I can put my trust in Him.
Dead on the spot...

LycanSpectre
04-08-2004, 09:54 PM
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So did you even take the test JLR, or are you here just to preach?

Aquilan
04-08-2004, 10:30 PM
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So did you even take the test JLR, or are you here just to preach?

Are you just here to say that he is just here to preach?

Edit: I think faith IS trust, and therefore illogical. Lets face it, I can trust my friends not to beat me up, and I have faith that they won't, but they still could. Logically, I should hang out with people weaker than me, because I know that they can't rend me asunder. But since I have trust in their loyalty, I still have some great friends.

LycanSpectre
04-08-2004, 10:42 PM
Are you just here to say that he is just here to preach?

Well, yes. JLR didn't say anything about actually taking the test. He just stared on about why faith is logical. Just trying to keep my thread from wandering too far off topic.

Aquilan
04-08-2004, 11:15 PM
Alright, I see. Anyway, does anyone here not agree with thier views on how your faith coincides?

Frostbeard
04-08-2004, 11:47 PM
As someone who believes in a multitude of imperfect gods, this test didn't exactly strain the ol' brain muscle. I came out totally unscathed, though I had to debate long and hard on the atheist question.

LV426
04-09-2004, 10:00 AM
I was consistenyly logical in my belief that god does not exist.

chriz
04-09-2004, 01:42 PM
This test is inconsistent and baiting. For example:

"Any being which it is right to call God must be free to do anything."

Whether this is true or false depends on your definition of "God," which hasn't been established at this point. Since "God" is the word in question, it's impossible to answer. The Christian God can (ostensibly) do anything. Zeus could not. What's the correct answer?

"Evolutionary theory maybe false in some matters of detail, but it is essentially true."

There's no acceptable answer to this. If I say true, I'm saying I think evolution is false in [the relevant] matters of detail. If I say false, the quiz assumes I'm rejecting evolution entirely. What if I feel evolution is correct in every relevant manner? No way to answer (I had to answer true in order for the quiz to "get" what it thought I meant).

"The serial rapist Peter Sutcliffe had a firm, inner conviction that God wanted him to rape and murder prostitutes. He was, therefore, justified in believing that he was carrying out God's will in undertaking these actions."

Ambiguous. Justified to whom? To me? To himself? To the law? He may have been justified to himself and his relationship with what he perceived as God, but not to the law or civil society. I decided the quiz meant "justified to me" or "justified to the law" in order to proceed.

Zero hits, but the quiz took a couple... ;)

J.L.R.
04-09-2004, 04:46 PM
I agree with Chriz...

Thusly I found it illogical...

Just so you know, I died...

MorganaFang
04-09-2004, 04:50 PM
The questions were rather poorly phrased because I kept having to reread the one I bit the bullet at. But all in all I'm strong in my convictions, took the test for fun, not to prove anything. :) Internet people heheh



Just so you know, I died...
And sorry for this but... I so knew you did heheh!

J.L.R.
04-09-2004, 09:09 PM
It is hard to give True/False answers to questions that are more complex than True/False questions.

Yeah Morgana, I think anybody could have seen that coming... I should had laid down and placed a flower on my chest even before I took the test. :D Speaking of which, we need a smiley with X's for its eyes...hehe