Society

[Varg]

Lets discuss human society in this thread. Is society something humanity creates for its self to safeguard it from things it doesn't like and/or agree with? Is humanity surrounded by a veil created by society? Is it possible that some of us can see through the veil? I want to know what you people think.

[Ender]

The .. organization or association of persons engaged in a common profession, activity, or interest.

[The Prophet]

Society is just a tool used to control people into doing things they only do just to fit into it. Society controls the way people act and feel. It also keeps people from saying things they want to say about the world around them. That is why when other act differently then society wants them to they are considered outcasts.

[Teej]

The .. organization or association of persons engaged in a common profession, activity, or interest.

I agree with this.

[Varg]

Society is just a tool used to control people into doing things they only do just to fit into it. Society controls the way people act and feel. It also keeps people from saying things they want to say about the world around them. That is why when other act differently then society wants them to they are considered outcasts.

I agree with you Prophet. I think that we need to change society, cause we are'nt going to be able to get rid of it (humans are too dependant on it). If you look at wolf society, it is clear that it functions a LOT better than human society because it is based on a decent system of leadership (you know, alpha and beta males and all that crap). I don't know if human society would function better like this, human nature being what it is, but it's just a thought. :D

p.s I know human society is based on a system of leadership, just not a very good one... ;)

[Blazer]

Why does everyone assume that society was built by aliens?
Humans created society and we did it for a reason. If you don't want to fit in with a society then that's fine. But don't look for the perks of belonging to a society (police protection, army protection, ambulence service, supermarkets, et al.)

[Darth Cluich]

Why does everyone assume that society was built by aliens?

Who said anything about aliens? What're you smoking, Blazer? And why aren't you sharing with me? :p

[Blazer]

I've just given up smoking (hence the mood swings). :cry: :banghead: :cry:

Just saying that it seems everyone so far has seen humanity and society as different entities. I was just pointing out that they're the same thing.

[The Prophet]

One sad thing about society is that it doesn't like to hear the truth. If you say something that goes against society you are automaticly considered stupid or the people decide to stop listening to you. No one wants to hear the truth if it goes against what society has said or the government has said.

[Hybrid]

One sad thing about society is that it doesn't like to hear the truth.


What is truth? ;)

[The Prophet]

First off, society has done nothing wrong to me. I just see what society is doing wrong in general, not to whom or what. I am just posting what I have seen and felt about the way society works today.

[Ender]

Examples being?

[The Prophet]

It makes people work in a way that it thinks is efficent. It sets up the way people should act. It makes it that people need to do what society tells it to so that they can fit in. It makes it so that you can't be different without being either outcast or disliked. There is no room for free thinkers/ new minds in society. Those are a few of the main ones. The little ones kind of fit into those. If I have any more I will post them.

[Klark]

Wow, you couldn't be more ass backwards if you put your pants on wrong.

Society awards difference. Hence all the programs and shows on TV. Society awards free thinking minds. Ever see Mythbusters? Well, they are certainly free thinking. Society has several ways to get oneself out there on a limb. It's the government you're thinking of.

[The Prophet]

Last post I'm posting here for the good of man-kind. Society and the government work together in the long run. Society is actually controlled by the government if you think about it. Only time free thinkers are heard is when there are big people behind them.

Thank you for your time. Anymore questions or replies for me, just PM me. I'd hate to keep taking up space that others could use to speak their minds.

[Claudandus]

Funny how it's easy to find someone complaining about society but it's hard to find someone trying to do something to change it. I see people complaining about it and pointing out things that people done wrong all the time. Complaining is fine, but complaining without action is just waste of breath.

What would you do to change society? Society is, to some extent, controled by individuals - HUMAN individuals, just like me and you, who might be doing bad things, but think they are doing good things - just like me and you. Will you change the mind of these individuals? You can't. Will you change YOURSELF to be one of these individuals? Ok, you can do that.

But what next? You will simply state to other people that some things are wrong and others are right. And some people would agree with you, others wouldn't. That would be your "change" in society: you would change six for half a dozen. Society would remain, in the same way we know it now - with bad AND good things happening.

Well, that's just my humble opinion.

Also, if I may: Prophet, don't be afraid of other people's opinion. After all, you'll find people disagreeing with you all the time. That happens a lot, when you live in a society.

[Edwardo_son_of_haqim]

Society is not the problem it is just a system created by mankind. Without it humanity would have been killed off by bigger/faster animals long ago. It only becomes a tool of oppression when it is manipulated by those in power or who place themselves at the head or top of society.

[forestwolf]

Society is not the problem it is just a system created by mankind. Without it humanity would have been killed off by bigger/faster animals long ago. It only becomes a tool of oppression when it is manipulated by those in power or who place themselves at the head or top of society.

Good point, but it is usually being controlled by those in positions of power, and in that case Society is fake. Plain and simple, it’s a way for the masses to be controlled by a few. People are often too afraid to stick up for themselves, and society is part of the reason for this. It’s basically like a larger forum of peer pressure in high school. :rolleyes: peer pressure...

[Wolfguard]

Lets discuss human society in this thread. Is society something humanity creates for its self to safeguard it from things it doesn't like and/or agree with? Is humanity surrounded by a veil created by society? Is it possible that some of us can see through the veil? I want to know what you people think.
I think society is a natural evolution of the ancestorial and instinctual need to be in a group for security, i.e. primate nature. Within a society(troop), there will be dominants, submissives, and middle of the roaders who will either go along with whoever is strongest mentally or physically or play opposing groups against each other in order to gain benefit for themselves.

That`s my take on it.

[Hellcat]

Human society is a group of like minded people (my opinion). Each individual within that group has its own individual idealisms, beliefs etc but they belong within the society because it was what they were born into. Human society has been with us since humans started walking upright (and probably before that too). The human society probably began within a family unit. As the animal humans found survival much easier living in large groups- they could work together to hunt larger prey, more people could survive because there were more people to care for the weak and thus breeding was a little easier because the longer a human can survive the more children can be produced which would be good for the future of mankind, good for the family as future breeding stock, and more workers wihin the family unit. The family unit would probably have met up with other family units. They realsied they could exchange ideas, weoponary, herbal remedies etc all of which was a positive attribute to mankind. So it was as nature planned, humankind eats, sleeps, fights and fucks. And so manjind has driven itself onwards to better itself. Now the family unit has become "the human society". We still trade and exchange ideas only now "currency" has been thrown into the equation. Since that happened food is more easily available and we no longer need to hunt and gather. Modern man is so used to the concept of money and buying food that the whole idea of hunting for food is quite unnecessary. Rape is no longer civilized because there are plenty of females to go around, and a male no longer has to be physically fit to keep a woman and her children. Even the weakest of men can take a mate. So rape is outlawed. Murder is also outlawed, since we all live together in a big happy family with plenty of food to go around we no longer have to defend our territory from other humans (except on bigger scale usually refered to as war in which case murder is perfectly moral- apparently). So now we live in this big happy family living in newly developed society where many of our natural instincts are no longer required. Food is readily available, most of us have a roof over our heads and life is... bliss. (Or maybe its not. Maybe in our urge to better ourselves, we have actually dug ourselves into a deeper hole without actually realising it?)
The thing about society is you have to live by rules. It doesn't matter if its a human society or a canid society, always their are rules by which to live. Our modern day rules are just a little more complex than previous, but the result is the same- societies of any kind have rules (in our case-laws). As long as you abide by those rules nothing else matters. If you fancy running down the street in a floral nighty with wellies on your feet, a tea cosy on your head, sunglasses and a bone stuck through your nose as you sing at the top of your lungs "she'll be coming round the mountains" you are more than welcome to do so providing you aren't breaking any law. You might get some funny looks, but if you are concerned that, that is your problem and nobody elses.

[EyeOfTheBeholder]

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Well I believe it to be obvious that many people have seen through the veil that we call society, Diogneses the founder of the school of philosophy known as "The Cynics" himself is proof of that. He berated Alexander the Great to his face, and was called "Diogneses the Dog" by the other Greeks for the way he lived in an old barrel and barked and howled at any of the upper class.







Lets discuss human society in this thread. Is society something humanity creates for its self to safeguard it from things it doesn't like and/or agree with? Is humanity surrounded by a veil created by society? Is it possible that some of us can see through the veil? I want to know what you people think.

[Darth Cluich]

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Well I believe it to be obvious that many people have seen through the veil that we call society, Diogneses the founder of the school of philosophy known as "The Cynics" himself is proof of that. He berated Alexander the Great to his face, and was called "Diogneses the Dog" by the other Greeks for the way he lived in an old barrel and barked and howled at any of the upper class.

:eek: Diogenes was a tr00 w3r3! Who knew? :p