Philly -vs- N.E

[Lord Anubis]

Who do you think will win?

[Buddha Monkey]

The sea......no, I won't....

However, from what I saw of the game's, I'm going to have to say the Eagles will take it.

[Lord Anubis]

I hope so budda

[West]

Patriots.

[Buddha Monkey]

You just hope the team we all want to win, lose's, don't you Silver?

[West]

The Patriots are going to the Superbowl for what, the third time in a row? The Eagles havn't been to the Superbowl in 24 years. And they lost.

[Lord Anubis]

I feel the hate....lol

[West]

Don't you even think about bringing the Seahawks into this thread. I will kidnap all of you.

[Lord Anubis]

How many SuperBowls have the hawks been to?....lol

[West]

Please kill me! It's amazing how much I suck!

If you insist.

[perpetual sorrow]

I would say N.E. I like the cowboys better but they suck so "Go Patriots"

[West]

I love the Cowboys. I wish two NFC teams could play against eachother in the Superbowl, cause' I would eat a baby to see a Seahawks v.s. Cowboys Superbowl.

[Reformer56]

I'm thinking the Patriots are going to run away with a third superbowl in four years. Mainly because of their team chemistry. It's a common fact teams with good chemistry tend to win. We see that here with the Patriots. Not so much with the Eagles, they broguth in T.O. and theres no way he could fit in with the Eagles and their chemistry in just one season.

[Lord Anubis]

I have to dissagree on the team chemistry, Philly has had that, even more so with T.O. They have been through alot. Look j. Trotter came back at the league min. just for another shot to play with them. where he could have gotten more cash for a lesser team.

[Reformer56]

I don't know, it just seems that the Patriots are more close, thats probably a media sqew but nonetheless it will be a great game I'm eager to see if T.O. will return he still has to pass the doctors and Andy Reid last I heard...

[Lord Anubis]

The Pats are the defending champs so i will give them their props. But the Eagles look mighty might hungry.

[Buddha Monkey]

I'm mighty hungry, does that mean I can win the Super Bowl, or that I should just eat a nOOb?

[Thanatos]

Going for Philly.. too bad TO wont play in the show.

I still think Philly has a good shot of beating NE.

[Darth Cluich]

Going for Philly.. too bad TO wont play in the show.

I still think Philly has a good shot of beating NE.

He still might, against doctor's orders.

[West]

If Owens plays, he is not going to be nearly as good as he was before. The guy needs time to heal, and I just hope he doesn't get himself hurt.

[Buddha Monkey]

Heard on the radio that Owens is not getting the all clear to play in the Super Bowl.

[Lord Anubis]

The DR that won't give T.O. the all clear to play is just covering his ass so if T.O. gets hurt he is not liable. Decision is up to Andy Reid and the team DR's. Even if he is not 100% he will still demand attention which opens it up for others.

[Reformer56]

By the way T.O. is being mentioned its making it sound as if the Eagles hinges on weather T.O. will come back or not. Don't forget that the Eagles have had a solid running game aswell. Look for the Eagles to stay on their gameplan even if it doesn't work well early.

[DarkHunter]

Eagles woulda lost against the Steelers. But the Patriots are gonna get beat down.

[Lord Anubis]

Rather Ownes plays or not, the Eagles game plan will remain the same. It didn;t change when they lost Owens. Why would it change when he comes back?

[Reformer56]

Eagles woulda lost against the Steelers. But the Patriots are gonna get beat down.

Based on what? Ben finally played like a rookie, whos to say it's not the beginnning of a streak :D Not that I would want that, it's high time the Steelers started dominating but as we all know most teams who are good for one year suck the next year due to salary issues etc. The Patriots seem to be imune to this however...

[Lord Anubis]

I gotta say New England and Philly are rareity's in the NFL with their cap space

[Gilenea]

I heard the other day that there are rumors that TO is doing all he can to get the doctors to clear him. The coaches want him back really bad, hence the quote: "We're asking him to play one game, not an entire season."

I hope he gets to play. It's not every season that your team makes it to the Super Bowl. I'd, for one, be PISSED if I'd played the whole season to sit out when it really counted. It makes me mad thinking about it!

Gil

[Thanatos]

The doctor is not gonna clear him to play.

TO's not fit to play, he most prob will go out & do some stupid shit against the Docs orders.

But if i was Andy Reid i wouldnt allow it, the guy broke hs ankle, if he goes out & plays & fucks it up more than it is...hes gonna risk it.

The doctor will let everyone know hes not clearing him to play to avoid any attempts @ a malpractice suit.

[Lord Anubis]

T.O. is already set money wise. But how often do you get to play in the big game? Look at Dan Marino? Payton Manning?........

[Lord Anubis]

Owens update.....http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs04/news/story?id=1977962

[Reformer56]

They are rushing it, typically he would have had a season ending injury/surgery. The Eagles run a risk of ending his career if they let him play in the Super Bowl.

[Lord Anubis]

They still plan on using Mitchell and Pinston as their starting top two recievers.If Ownens plays he would be the number three.

[Reformer56]

Todd Pinkston, in my opinion was probably the Eagles most underated player in the regular season. If he hadn't been there running the deep routes there would have been no way for T.O. to be open all the time running the inside post.

[Lord Anubis]

I agree. They worked well for one another. bBecause Pinkston would not of had single coverage without T.O. getting all the attention. As it was with Westbrook getting doubled and letting the wideouts get off the line.

[voldraj]

Eagles all the way baybee!!!

[Darth Cluich]

Todd Pinkston, in my opinion was probably the Eagles most underated player in the regular season. If he hadn't been there running the deep routes there would have been no way for T.O. to be open all the time running the inside post.

I'm an Eagles fan, but I still think Pinkston plays like a little girl.

[Lord Anubis]

Pinkston does not like contact period. Good thing he is fast....lol

[Reformer56]

Exactly which is why the Eagles use him as a distraction because all he does, when T.O. is around. Is run a skinny to deep "9" route so that leaves T.O. open down the middle. Becuase not even some of the best secondaries in the NFC can account for the safeties having to move to cover both T.O. and Pinkston because that will just leave Mitchell open on the other side.

[Lord Anubis]

Then you throw Westbrook into the mix.........

[Reformer56]

I like Westbrook a lot and I'm eager to see who the Pats can match him up against but if I'm not mistaken the Eagles like to use him on short "5's" and "4's" right?

[Lord Anubis]

Mostly. But they also run him on outs on occasion. LJ Smith like to hit it deep as well. This is why i want T.O. back, not just for his production but the chaos he makes for defenses.

[Reformer56]

If T.O. is back and at 100% I have no doubt that this superbowl could be one for the ages.

[Lord Anubis]

Prolly not at a 100%,,but even a T.O. at lets say 80% is better than 75% of most wideouts.

[Reformer56]

Point taken, I'm eager to see the Super Bowl with or without T.O. though. I'd like to think the Eagle's victory doesn't hinge on him.

[Lord Anubis]

I agree but having him never hurts.....

[Reformer56]

Oh no having him wouldn't hurt at all. I'd like to hear opions on the opposing defense however, I'll keep mine to myself for now.

[Lord Anubis]

Just don't let Freddie Mitchell talk about the Pats defense....lol

[Darth Cluich]

I like Westbrook a lot and I'm eager to see who the Pats can match him up against but if I'm not mistaken the Eagles like to use him on short "5's" and "4's" right?

Westbrook runs all kinds of different routs, depending on where he's lined up. Watch for the Eagles to screw with the NE defense by lining him up frequently as a wideout. If the Patriots have to put their inexperienced corners on him, they could be screwed.

[Reformer56]

The Patriots are full of inexpierenced corners. Ty Law is their main corner and if T.O. is back Ty Law will have his hands full its not their corners I'm worried about though McNabb has a knack at making safeties go where he wants. Look to see him pick apart the Pat's seconadry like that.

[Lord Anubis]

Is Ty Law even playing? Last i knew he was hurt.

[Lord Anubis]

Injury updates.....
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs04/news/story?id=1975943

Law and Poole are out!

[Teej]

I've always been a pretty diehard Eagles fan. Weird considering I'm from Cleveland, but then again not weird considering the team currently in Cleveland.

[Reformer56]

Yeah Ty Law was hurt but it wasn't going to keep him out of the Super Bowl, the Patriots need him or else their entire secondary hangs on their safties and I mean they are good but they are Brian Dawkins.

[Darth Cluich]

Yeah Ty Law was hurt but it wasn't going to keep him out of the Super Bowl, the Patriots need him or else their entire secondary hangs on their safties and I mean they are good but they are Brian Dawkins.

Nobody in the game today is a Brian Dawkins. He's the Ronnie Lott of this generation.

This from a former safety. ;)

[Reformer56]

EDIT to previous post: I meant they aren't Brian Dawkins. I'm off today...

I know they aren't that's why I'm saying the Patriots defense will have their hands full trying to play a straight cover2 with an occansional pull. The safeties might have to double up on ohh say...T.O. This will cause mayhem for the Patriots because they haven't had to do this all season not since probably when they played the Colts in the regular season. And the Colts don't have anything near in comparison to the Eagle's passing attack. I'm eager to see what the Patriot's defense will looks like.

[Lord Anubis]

I love my eagles but to say Philly's passing attack is superior to Indy's after the yrads/td's they put up...might be a stretch.

[Reformer56]

Thats what I'm saying the Patriots big question this sunday lies with their secondary.

[Lord Anubis]

And to be seeing that big McNabb smile:)

[Reformer56]

Haha this is true, wasn't that on ESPN when they did that?

[Lord Anubis]

Yea

[Reformer56]

Yeah sometimes some of the stuff ESPN does is stupid but sometimes Stuart Scott and the boys get some pretty funny and good highlights and analsis' together

[Lord Anubis]

I love ESPN. I watch daily, especially in the am.

[Teej]

As much as I want the Eagles to win, I predict Patriots will win by a field goal. That's the way they win most of their games, anyways.

[Lord Anubis]

I have faith in my beloved Eagles

[Reformer56]

I want the Eagle's to win so badly but I've lost about 300 dollars total on betting against the Patriots in the Super Bowl so I can't do it this time.

[Freak]

I want Philly to win, but I seriously think they're gunna choke

[Lord Anubis]

I have the upmost confidence in Philly in this game. They were 13-1 before they rested their starters. People seem to forget this.

[Reformer56]

Nobody has forgotten that, but something many people tend to overlook is that this same basic Patriot team has been to the Super Bowl 3 times. So there's not so much of the nerves or pre game gitters that carry on into the first quarter. And there's certainly no intimidation factor.

[Lord Anubis]

True. I still thinkit will be a battle down to the field goal kickers.

[Reformer56]

Of course it will, and I hate Adam Vinaterri, that poo head has cost my way more money that what he's worth...

[Lord Anubis]

David Akers is god!

[Reformer56]

And Adam Vinaterri is the Devil personified. I think Akers actually has better stats at longer distances than Vinaterri last time I looked...but that was awhile ago.
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It's halftime and its all tied up strangely Pinkston has the most yardage for recievers with 84 yds and 4 catches and Owens has 4 catches for 45 yds.

[West]

Patriots.

Patriots. I told you all they would win.

Bitches.

[Reformer56]

I voted for the Patriots but down in my gut I was pulling for the Eagles so bad. There's always next year though, I mean the Patriots are losing their offensive and defensive coordinators.

[Teej]

As much as I want the Eagles to win, I predict Patriots will win by a field goal. That's the way they win most of their games, anyways.

Somebody rep me because I totally called it.

[Buddha Monkey]

Patriots. I told you all they would win.

Bitches.
You were right, for once. Big deal :p

You'll be wrong next time. Watch, Mrs West!

[Lord Anubis]

Yea the Eagles lost to the defending champs. Farther than some other teams that have never made it out of the 1st round.....lol

[West]

You were right, for once. Big deal :p

You'll be wrong next time. Watch, Mrs West!


For once? Every game I made a prediction on, I was right. Except for that New England - Indianapolis game.

Bitches.

[Lord Anubis]

Does anyone have interest in a baseball thread?

[Reformer56]

Oh yeah, baseball is awesome, I'm a diehard Braves fan even without Greg Maddox we are still awesome.

[West]

Mariners.

And seeing as how this is going off topic, Anubis or I will probably make a baseball thread very shortly.

[Gilenea]

I won some money. :)

Gil